Intelligent migration/sync tool for PC to PC over LAN?

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Hello... [W764 Ultimate on two laptops]

Situation:
Work on primary laptop 12hrs/day, often installing programs or making other changes. Have a secondary laptop as a safeguard, in case the primary laptop fails and takes time to order parts/etc.

Been using MacReflect to make an image of primary laptop, then migrating that image to the 2nd laptop... but each time have to inject drivers and reinstall cert/OEM key, etc

Goal: Looking for an intelligent migration tool that won't copy over things already present on the target machine, just update it. But this can include newly installed programs, so FileSync, etc aren't useful.

Tried EASUS Todo PCTrans - did not recognize that 99% of the programs on the source machine were already present on the target. And I can't manually scan all those listed programs... the sftw needs to compare the two systems like a synch program does, and just show me the changed items.

Anyone know of a migration/sync tool that does this? Would appreciate any suggestions! Thanks!

PS Both laptops are similar in specs with standard 1TB internal drives.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
I also have multiple machines with the same programs. Syncs and LANs are for copying data; they don't install programs because installs interact with the OS, scatter their files over several folders and make entries in the registry. When I add a program to Machine #1, I have to sit down at Machine #2 and do the same.

You can take a screenshot of Programs and Features and send the jpg to the other machine for comparison, but only you can install and uninstall programs. You are indispensable.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
Simple way is use a free virtual machine then you can just open it on any PC in the world
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
win 8 32 bit
I also have multiple machines with the same programs. Syncs and LANs are for copying data; they don't install programs because installs interact with the OS, scatter their files over several folders and make entries in the registry. When I add a program to Machine #1, I have to sit down at Machine #2 and do the same. [...]

I always thought that too, but then found Zinstall and the one I mentioned, EASUS Todo PCTrans. These programs are for migrating all programs, files, settings, data, pics, etc - your entire system - from one machine to another, over your LAN.

They are targeted to the person who (for example) buys a new W10 machine, and wants their W7 machine duplicated on the new W10 system. Zinstall or PCTrans will connect both machines on your LAN, then transfer everything from the W7 machine to the W10 machine.... it's like migrating an image but better b/c it doesn't bring over the wrong drivers or break licensing on the target machine. But all programs are 'installed' by the transfer process using intelligent migration (copying install files to various folders, making reg keys, etc, in accord with the target's OS)... along with copying all data, settings, files, etc.

You can also choose to NOT transfer certain programs or data, if you choose.

So it's "this close" to what people like you and I are looking for, who want to keep machines updated without migrating an image, then having to reinstall drivers, chipsets, etc... and licensing.

But PCTrans listed all programs installed on the source machine, with only a handful marked as 'already present' on the target machine (when I'd just done a standard image migration, so I knew all programs were in fact present, except maybe one or two small open source tools I'd added)... so the 'synch' part of the program is not up to the task. I did not want it to 'reinstall everything' ... just what was missing.

I guess I'll have to look deeper into Zinstall to see if it's any better, or to other programs that are along these lines. A newer breed, it seems. If you find anything please post it in this thread. :)
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Simple way is use a free virtual machine then you can just open it on any PC in the world

Thanks for the suggestion. My system is complex (several drives with various purposes) and I don't want to get into a VM. Just want my plain old laptop duplicated on my 2nd machine, so I can jump on that machine if need be. :) Old school, I guess.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
Thanks, but I do not use cloud services. Against my religion.

I did try PCTrans again - it was not viable. It did transport some programs but most did not work and would have needed reinstallment. Also created other messy problems. So restored the original image and updated C:\ manually. Luckily I keep all data on subsequent partitions (D, E, F...) so it was only C:\ that needed updating and ended up only taking a few hours to install a few missing programs and adjust shortcuts on the desktop, etc.

From now in am using Free FileSynch to synch data files from the other partitions, and also have it synching the browser folders on C:\ and a few other important folders (for my purposes) like the Desktop, etc, so that I won't have to migrate anymore to keep the second machine current. Will just make a note when I install a new program on the primary machine, so I can install it on the secondary machine later. That takes far less time than migration and keeps the secondary machine current as I go.

Thanks to all for the input.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
I duplicate my data by having the machines networked, and just dropping new data into the data folders on the secondary machine. But you can't use that for programs. I copy the installer into Public Folders, and sit down at the other one, 10' away, and install.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
"When I add a program to Machine #1, I have to sit down at Machine #2 and do the same." - RoWin7
How do you handle the license situation? Some programs are smart enough to call home and make sure only one computer has that one particular license, Cyberlink products are a good example, Acronis is another good example.
 
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My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
How do you handle the license situation? Some programs are smart enough to call home and make sure only one computer has that one particular license

You firewall them out of the network and ensure they don't publish your private data to anyone. Even the rudimentary Windows Firewall does a good job at this, when properly configured.
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Sattelite A665-S6092
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7-740QM
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 330GT
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 SSD 500GB
1TB USB3 external HD
Cooling
Coolermaster Notepal U3 notebook cooling pad
Internet Speed
3mbps ASDL
Antivirus
ClamWin 0.98.7
Browser
Opera 12.17 x86 (main), Firefox 38 (sec), IE11 (last resort)
I should have used the "@RoWin7" earlier, because I wanted to know how she accomplished her double intalls. :)
 
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My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
"When I add a program to Machine #1, I have to sit down at Machine #2 and do the same." - RoWin7
How do you handle the license situation? Some programs are smart enough to call home and make sure only one computer has that one particular license, Cyberlink products are a good example, Acronis is another good example.

All my programs are free, including Open Office and Macrium Reflect. No license, and I don't need all the extra functions in Acronis. I have 50 programs on both computers, and I'm setting up another one soon, because the machines are all 7 to 10-years-old and I need 2 functioning computers at all times.

My games are free too, or online.

Most developers offer both free and paid versions. Income from paid versions allow the company to offer the free versions, anti-viruses for example. I don't need support on most of my programs, but if I do, almost all have online forums. E.g.: this forum for my password manager. They also offer email support, even for the free program.:
"https://www.stickypassword.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=132"
 
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My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
Just remembered, I did pay $100 for PaintShopPro for my Win 98, but as the Jasc Co. no longer exists, no one cares if you move it from computer to computer and re-register it. The newer versions owned by Corel are much too complex for me, and I wouldn't be using most of the functions.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
Do you use Sticky Password too? You can see there are very few problems, whereas my first PW manager, LastPass, devolved into a mass of unsolved bugs after LogMeIn bought it.

You probably have some paid programs that you love, so my method of migration might not work for you.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
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