Solved New laser printers compatible with Windows 7 SP1

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Hi. I am using a laptop with Windows 7 Pro SP1. I need to replace my (Win7-compatible) 2008 Samsung laser printer, which is down, and repairing it will cost me significantly more (at least for my economic situation) than buying a new laser printer. However, I am quite concerned about the new printers' compatibility with Win7. I would appreciate advice on what B&W laser printer to buy. Thank you.
 

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It's a tough issue. you better ask Samsung for help.

True, I remember, my new laser had a problem to obtain Windows 7 driver. but my old Samsung B&W/color lasers ok to run on Windows 7. therefore my W7 indeed runs all old items, old laser, old scanner, old card reader, old smart phones , , ,
 

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Hello. Thank you for the responses!

My apologies for not being clear that my concern about new printers Win7-compatibility was for non-Samsung jet printers (as Samsung stopped manufacturing/supporting printers in 2016, when it sold its printer division to HP).

Even though I dislike HP's policy of tag checking if the toner cartridge is an official HP one, the URL reference to HP's UPD looks promising, so I will explore that. At any rate, If any forum member using Win 7 has recently purchased a jet printer, I would appreciate information on the brand and any problems found.

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At any rate, If any forum member using Win 7 has recently purchased a jet printer, I would appreciate information on the brand and any problems found.

I generally won't argue with someone else's brand preferences, except for HP. I recommend staying far away from HP if you can. Unfortunately, that's becoming less and less practical because everybody else is following HP's lead anyway, so if you need Win7 support your options may be limited.

HP has started going to an online-only requirement in several models, whereby the user is required to connect the printer to the internet, is required to create an online HP account, and drivers are not downloadable and can only be installed over the internet. (It wouldn't be a surprise to me if someday HP starts remotely bricking printers if the owner hasn't re-upped some subscription or other.)

Our local neighborhood association used to print the neighborhood newsletter by paying a local commercial printing service. Three years ago they thought they could save on printing costs by buying a cheap laser printer and simply using it as a stand-alone copier, so they bought a HP MFP m234. Unfortunately, it wouldn't get past the introductory "Setup" phase.

Our organization mainly wanted to use it as a stand-alone copier, but they couldn’t even do that because it was stuck in step-by-step Setup mode until the mandatory "installation" steps were completed. They turned to me for help, so I created a fake HP acct and completed "installation" of the printer in a virtual machine. Then we could delete the VM, and the printer, now having completed the Setup phase, would work as intended.

Upon further research, we discovered there was no user-downloadable driver for a traditional installation. (There is now, but at the time there was no such option.) One had to use either the "HP Smart app" or the "Easy Start" setup program, which will find and download the driver from the internet for you — but only if you first create a mandatory user account at hp.com and then connect the printer to the internet. And all the while, dark patterns will keep trying to trick you into HP's subscription toner program. (Don't fall for it! Others have reported that when they eventually cancelled their subscription, the DRM chips in their supply of unopened, genuine HP cartridges were revoked!)

I relate this story merely as an illustration of the depths to which HP has fallen. Whatever printer you end up choosing, you may want to be prepared to jump through similar hoops.

First, I would buy locally (Staples, Office Depot, et al) so you can readily return it if you can't get it working in Win7. Perhaps HP's Universal Print Driver will work, but you want to be prepared if it doesn't.

Next, I would do a trial install in a VM if possible. If not, I would at least make a backup image of your OS partition so you can restore your unfettered Win7 after you're done wrestling with the trial install.

If you can get the trial install to work, then you should be able to use something like the Double Driver utility to backup the Win7 printer driver from the trial install. Return to your unfettered Win7 installation and "restore" the Double Driver backup, and you should be able to have the Win7 driver while avoiding all the extra garbage programs HP crammed onto the trial install.

I used to recommend HP laser printers, but because of shenanigans like these, I no longer do. These days I use Brother lasers and Epson ink-jets.

Aside: Yes, Epson inkjets have long used DRM chips in their ink cartridges, but for me it's a moot point. IME third-party cartridges produced unsatisfactory results, so I only use genuine Epson cartridges anyway. As for lasers, it's been reported Brother has recently adopted the DRM chip strategy ... sigh. However, I don't think they're (yet) as iron-fisted as HP about requiring an acct and online connection ... so Brother may not be as good as it used to be, but it's still better than HP. Unfortunately, I don't know how Brother's support for Win7 is with their current crop of printers.
 

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Hello, I am marking this thread as solved.
As far as I was able to find, of currently still sold printers, only HP and Brother have laser models with drivers compatible with Win7-SP1-64x. My dislike of HP products support from part experiences, and the prompt response from Brother to my query on models with Win7 compatibility, led me to buy from them. Both companies are using DRM chips, but Brother does not demand an account and online connection, at least for now. According to their response, only two monochrome laser models are compatible with Win7 -- MCF-L2710DW and HL-L5000D.

I just bought the HL-L5000D because of its footprint (a strict requirement for me); it has duplex printing, USB 2 and a parallel interface (DOS!), but no WiFi connection, and uses 80 MB of disk space and includes as CD_ROM installation disk. Brother also provides online downloading of a universal printer driver (supporting versions as far back as Win XP) and plenty of guides and other instructions. Its ground shipping in the U.S. is free of charge, and its price --at least today-- matched the lowest prices on US-Amazon for a new printer, all which were from third-party sellers. Of course, I bought the printer directly from Brother (1 year support), as most Amazon's third party sellers of computer gear are scum, if not all.

Thank you again for your responses.
 

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