Wired vs. Wireless Woes

dnelms

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Here's the setup:
1 home desktop wired (Win7 Premium)
1 work desktop wired (Win7 Premium)
1 work laptop wireless(Vista Business)
1 laptop wireless (kids) running Vista Home
1 laptop wireless (kids) running XP

just added
1 netbook (wife) with Win 7 starter

Fought homegroup, so turned that off on all Win7 machines.

Every computer on the network can see the netbook (and all other computers). But you can't connect to it.
On the netbook, it can not see any wired computer, but can see the wireless computer (other than the Vista business computer). So I hooked an ethernet cable and the netbook can see the entire network.
All computers belong to WORKGROUP. The netbook can connect to the router and internet just fine. End result is I need to see the network so my wife can print from the internet to the network printer (on my main desktop). I'm pretty good when it comes to working this stuff out (had computers since 1984), but I spent the better part of this afternoon to no avail.

So any ideas or suggestions are welcomed.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
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DSL
Here's the setup:
1 home desktop wired (Win7 Premium)
1 work desktop wired (Win7 Premium)
1 work laptop wireless(Vista Business)
1 laptop wireless (kids) running Vista Home
1 laptop wireless (kids) running XP

just added
1 netbook (wife) with Win 7 starter

Fought homegroup, so turned that off on all Win7 machines.

Every computer on the network can see the netbook (and all other computers). But you can't connect to it.
On the netbook, it can not see any wired computer, but can see the wireless computer (other than the Vista business computer). So I hooked an ethernet cable and the netbook can see the entire network.
All computers belong to WORKGROUP. The netbook can connect to the router and internet just fine. End result is I need to see the network so my wife can print from the internet to the network printer (on my main desktop). I'm pretty good when it comes to working this stuff out (had computers since 1984), but I spent the better part of this afternoon to no avail.

So any ideas or suggestions are welcomed.

hi and welcome to sevenforums

Question. what firewall and av is on the netbook?

Nice post BTW

Ken
 

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HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
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Win 8 Release candidate 8400
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[email protected]
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Nvidia 9600M
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HD built-in
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17" Wxga
Screen Resolution
1440x900
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none
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45Mb down 5Mb up
Here's the setup:
1 home desktop wired (Win7 Premium)
1 work desktop wired (Win7 Premium)
1 work laptop wireless(Vista Business)
1 laptop wireless (kids) running Vista Home
1 laptop wireless (kids) running XP

just added
1 netbook (wife) with Win 7 starter

Fought homegroup, so turned that off on all Win7 machines.

Every computer on the network can see the netbook (and all other computers). But you can't connect to it.
On the netbook, it can not see any wired computer, but can see the wireless computer (other than the Vista business computer). So I hooked an ethernet cable and the netbook can see the entire network.
All computers belong to WORKGROUP. The netbook can connect to the router and internet just fine. End result is I need to see the network so my wife can print from the internet to the network printer (on my main desktop). I'm pretty good when it comes to working this stuff out (had computers since 1984), but I spent the better part of this afternoon to no avail.

So any ideas or suggestions are welcomed.

hi and welcome to sevenforums

Question. what firewall and av is on the netbook?

Nice post BTW

Ken

running Windows Firewall and Microsoft Security Essentials on every Win 7 computer.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
Which machine is the printer physically connected to?

When you hooked the wife's machine up to ethernet is she able to print?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo ThinkPad T60
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Motherboard
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family)
Memory
2.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ThinkPad Display
Screen Resolution
1400x1050
Hard Drives
100Gb SATA
Keyboard
Standard Keyboard
Mouse
HID-compliant Mouse
Internet Speed
Cable Broadband - 54Mbps
Other Info
Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
Which machine is the printer physically connected to?

When you hooked the wife's machine up to ethernet is she able to print?

My main desktop (running Win 7 Premium) is where the printer is hooked up to. The printer is shared.

I went back and plugged the ethernet back in and it did discover the printer and would print.

Just something that will not allow the netbook to see the rest of the network. Network discovery is on.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
Printing to that printer doesn't reqiuire you to be put in the Homegroup. You can do it the conventional way...leave the Homegroup discovery option out for now and see if you can print to the printer wirelessly. Does the printer have wireless connections to it?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo ThinkPad T60
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Motherboard
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family)
Memory
2.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ThinkPad Display
Screen Resolution
1400x1050
Hard Drives
100Gb SATA
Keyboard
Standard Keyboard
Mouse
HID-compliant Mouse
Internet Speed
Cable Broadband - 54Mbps
Other Info
Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
Printing to that printer doesn't reqiuire you to be put in the Homegroup. You can do it the conventional way...leave the Homegroup discovery option out for now and see if you can print to the printer wirelessly. Does the printer have wireless connections to it?

Printing is not wireless. As stated previously, nothing is on a homegroup as I could never get it to work. Works fine between the wired machine, but not the wireless netbook.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
"Printing is not wireless."

I asked if the printer has wireless capabilties?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo ThinkPad T60
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Motherboard
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family)
Memory
2.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ThinkPad Display
Screen Resolution
1400x1050
Hard Drives
100Gb SATA
Keyboard
Standard Keyboard
Mouse
HID-compliant Mouse
Internet Speed
Cable Broadband - 54Mbps
Other Info
Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
"Printing is not wireless."

I asked if the printer has wireless capabilties?

No, it has no wireless capabilities (other than Bluetooth and that it not on the netbook to test)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
Thought I'd try something this morning. I change the wireless adapter settings to use a static IP address. I chose a high number (192.168.11.25) so I was sure I would not interfere with any devices the DHCP server was handing out.

So I try to ping that address from other places, it times out every single time.

This is got me stumped. On the other hand if all I'm after in the end (other than it irritates me when I can't figure something out) is for my wife to be able to print from her netbook, then adding a bluetooth adapter on the USB port would talk to my printer (it has a Bluetooth adapter added)... am I looking at that part right?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
How about buying a new printer with wireless capabilties? They aren't very expensive and you need not do much with setting it up.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo ThinkPad T60
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Motherboard
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family)
Memory
2.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ThinkPad Display
Screen Resolution
1400x1050
Hard Drives
100Gb SATA
Keyboard
Standard Keyboard
Mouse
HID-compliant Mouse
Internet Speed
Cable Broadband - 54Mbps
Other Info
Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
How about buying a new printer with wireless capabilties? They aren't very expensive and you need not do much with setting it up.

Actually it would be cheaper buying a bluetooth adapter for the netbook. Bottom line though, it should work just like all the other computers on the network does.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
Well between here, MS Answers forum and MS Technet, we can't find a solution. My guess is that Windows starter may end being the culrit. So I just decided to stop fighting it (I hate not figuring it out) and ordered a Bluetooth USB adapter for my wife's Dell Mini that has the Win7 Starter on it.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
hmmm ok. All the best with the Bluetooth adapter.

Btw, what is the model of printer?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo ThinkPad T60
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
CPU
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz
Motherboard
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family)
Memory
2.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ThinkPad Display
Screen Resolution
1400x1050
Hard Drives
100Gb SATA
Keyboard
Standard Keyboard
Mouse
HID-compliant Mouse
Internet Speed
Cable Broadband - 54Mbps
Other Info
Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
hmmm ok. All the best with the Bluetooth adapter.

Btw, what is the model of printer?

HP Photosmart D7360.
I've already got a bluetooth adapter in the slot on the printer.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 8400
OS
Windows Vista
CPU
Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz
Motherboard
Dell 0J3492 Intell 925x chipset
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia GeForce 9500 GT
Sound Card
Intel 82801FB
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VA1930wm
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
C: 130GB F: 80GB G: 120GB I: external 250GB
Keyboard
standard
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser 6000
Internet Speed
DSL
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