HD stuttering using Intel IG35 WDDM 1.1 driver

Jeff D

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I have an HTPC with an Asus P5E-VM HDMI mobo with IG35 onboard graphics and a E8400 Core 2 Duo 3 GHz CPU with dual boot Vista 32bit and W7 32bit setups. HD works OK under Vista 32 bit using the latest Intel Vista driver but it struggles under W7 using the WDDM 1.1 driver automatically installed by Windows.

The stuttering is fairly random but occurs very frequently and most likely due to the CPU maxing out under HD resolutions (as I assume most of the graphic processing is being done in software). When I look at CPU performance while displaying HD, it shows that the CPU is working very hard. If I set the screen resolution down to 1024x768, it copes OK.

Should there be some hardware graphics acceleration with the onboard GPU under the W7 driver or does it have to rely heavily on the CPU? I don't understand why my CPU is not coping as it's a good spec. Are there any tweaks or settings that would improve things? I cannot understand why performance under Vista should be better than under W7.

If I can't get it to work properly, I might have to put back in my noisier HD 4670 512Mb GDDR3 card to take the load off the CPU which I shouldn't have thought to have been necessary.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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Hitachi 42PMA400E + Panasonic PT-AX200E
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Hi Jeff D and welcome to the forum!

Try downloading the latest driver from your manufacturer and install that for Windows 7 instead of the default one that it installs. That should fix the ticks your experiencing during playbacks.

Cheers ;)
 

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Thanks NosferatuX, I'll try that. I think I will need to temporarily disable automatic driver search otherwise windows will keep trying to load their driver before I get a chance to replace it.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-build HTPC System
OS
Windows 7 beta x86 (dual boot with Vista x86)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3 GHz
Motherboard
Asus P5E-VM HDMI
Memory
OCZ 2x1GB PC2-6400C4
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3500
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek ALC883 8 channel HD (SPDIF)
Monitor(s) Displays
Hitachi 42PMA400E + Panasonic PT-AX200E
Screen Resolution
1024x768@60Hz (VGA) + 1920x1080@50Hz (HDMI)
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA
PSU
Antec Earthworks 430W
Case
Antec Fusion V1
I noticed that in disk manager only c: said active on my system, so Ive set all the others to active as well, not sure if that could be a reason.
 

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I noticed that in disk manager only c: said active on my system, so Ive set all the others to active as well, not sure if that could be a reason.

Interesting. I'm sure you know that marking a partition as "active" means that you are telling the BIOS that it contains an OS on that partition, which is marked by some partitioning tools as active by default. Disk drives that is used for storage purposes does not require/necessary to mark any partitions as active whether it be single/multiple partitions. ;)
 

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Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+
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EMX-AMD750G-PRO
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ATI Radeon 3650
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Well, I uninstalled the WDDM 1.1 driver and replaced it with the latest Vista driver (after disabling automatic driver search) and all seemed to go OK except that I couldn't get full screen TV on Zoom 3 setting anymore. It just increased the picture height a little but retained the black bars top and bottom. Added to that, BBC HD froze after a second or so each time I switched channels so I would conclude that the Vista driver is not suitable to run under W7.
So it's back to the drawing board.
I still need to play around with the graphic settings using the 1.1 driver as I think that when I switch off the plasma screen and fire up the projector instead, it goes into dual display mode. When I set it to the projector display only, the stuttering seemed to stop but I didn't get enough time to play around with it to be sure (my wife wanted to watch the news!).
I will probably also look at reinstalling the Radeon 4670 card and see what results I get by comparison.
 

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Self-build HTPC System
OS
Windows 7 beta x86 (dual boot with Vista x86)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3 GHz
Motherboard
Asus P5E-VM HDMI
Memory
OCZ 2x1GB PC2-6400C4
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3500
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek ALC883 8 channel HD (SPDIF)
Monitor(s) Displays
Hitachi 42PMA400E + Panasonic PT-AX200E
Screen Resolution
1024x768@60Hz (VGA) + 1920x1080@50Hz (HDMI)
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA
PSU
Antec Earthworks 430W
Case
Antec Fusion V1
Interesting. I'm sure you know that marking a partition as "active" means that you are telling the BIOS that it contains an OS on that partition, which is marked by some partitioning tools as active by default. Disk drives that is used for storage purposes does not require/necessary to mark any partitions as active whether it be single/multiple partitions. ;)


hmm so perhaps I should un-active them.
 

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Intel E8400 3GHz
Motherboard
Intel DX48BT2
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Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd.
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DG
Monitor(s) Displays
2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 on two monitors
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Samsung F3 1Tb (games)
2x Samsung F1 1Tb
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Thermaltake ToughPower 850w
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Scythe Mugen II
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Well. I've since put in the HD 4670 card with the new Catalyst beta driver which allows me to set up profiles in CCC which I'm playing around with. The only downside is that I could here the fan running on the HD 4670 rather than the silent Intel onboard setup. If anyone else finds this annoying, I fitted a Zalman VF1000 ultra quiet cooler which is virtually silent now and cools better than the original cooler that comes with the card.
The picture quality has improved significantly with a bit of tweaking such as changing the colorspace and applying some edge enhancement. No stuttering and very smooth now. Almost fooled into thinking SD is HD on my 42" plasma!
 

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Windows 7 beta x86 (dual boot with Vista x86)Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3 GHzOCZ 2x1GB PC2-6400C4Onboard Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3500
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-build HTPC System
OS
Windows 7 beta x86 (dual boot with Vista x86)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3 GHz
Motherboard
Asus P5E-VM HDMI
Memory
OCZ 2x1GB PC2-6400C4
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3500
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek ALC883 8 channel HD (SPDIF)
Monitor(s) Displays
Hitachi 42PMA400E + Panasonic PT-AX200E
Screen Resolution
1024x768@60Hz (VGA) + 1920x1080@50Hz (HDMI)
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA
PSU
Antec Earthworks 430W
Case
Antec Fusion V1
Well. I've since put in the HD 4670 card with the new Catalyst beta driver which allows me to set up profiles in CCC which I'm playing around with. The only downside is that I could here the fan running on the HD 4670 rather than the silent Intel onboard setup. If anyone else finds this annoying, I fitted a Zalman VF1000 ultra quiet cooler which is virtually silent now and cools better than the original cooler that comes with the card.
The picture quality has improved significantly with a bit of tweaking such as changing the colorspace and applying some edge enhancement. No stuttering and very smooth now. Almost fooled into thinking SD is HD on my 42" plasma!

That's sweet!
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Build 7048 x64Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+4 x 1GB Kingston 400MHz 6-6-6-18 (800MHz)ATI Radeon 3650
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Build 7048 x64
CPU
Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+
Motherboard
EMX-AMD750G-PRO
Memory
4 x 1GB Kingston 400MHz 6-6-6-18 (800MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 3650
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
22" AOC 2216Vw
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Cooling
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro PWM
Keyboard
Generic Enhanced Natural Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech VX Nano
Other Info
Edifier M1550
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