corrupt bootloader? or i just f***ed vista

[Himie]

well i recently had to reinstall windows 7 due installing magiciso which made W7 useless... now i installed back W7 in my second partition but when i start up my comp i got 3 choices to boot: Windows 7, Windows 7, Microsoft Windows Vista. the first W7 is the one im using right now and the second is the other one i had on my third partition which no longer exists.

i dont mind having 2 Window 7's displayed at boot up but my problem is when i try to load vista i get the boot screen but after 1 second the screen goes corrupt, i get a BSoD for .5 seconds and it goes back to the BIOS and the select OS screen

i already tried using easybcd to reinstall the boot loader but it doesnt work, i tried start up repair and i dont know what else to do can someone help me? =(

 

[Himie]

sooo i rewrote the bcd with easybcd but vista still wont boot and now i cant choose to boot windows7 my comp is useless now D:

i tried setting a boot flag to the w7 partition with parted magic but all it does is to show a "unable to find bootmgr. press ctrl+alt+delete to reboot" message.

is there a way to add the w7 partition to the mbr/bcd/w.e so i can boot w7, save my important stuff and reinstall vista from my recovery disk? i tried using my ubuntu 7.10 live cd to save my data but the loader gets stuck maybe the disk got scratchy its kinda old

 

[Himie]

well i copied vistas bootmgr and other boot files to the 7 partition using parted magic (somehow now it allowed me to copy files which it didnt before), backed up stuff, changed the boot flag to the 7 partition but when i was loading w7 i got the vista boot screen and a dos boot screen? well i dont care i got back to 7 without problems but i dont really want to reformat the vista partition back to factory default..again... so is there a way to fix the vista boot up? seems like is not the bootloader since before i used to be able to choose a OS and im using it to boot 7&vista (still vista crashes after like 3 seconds~! D: ) maybe someone could send me their boot files so i could use them or something.... plz someone help?

 

[ickymay]

well i copied vistas bootmgr and other boot files to the 7 partition using parted magic (somehow now it allowed me to copy files which it didnt before), backed up stuff, changed the boot flag to the 7 partition but when i was loading w7 i got the vista boot screen and a dos boot screen? well i dont care i got back to 7 without problems but i dont really want to reformat the vista partition back to factory default..again... so is there a way to fix the vista boot up? seems like is not the bootloader since before i used to be able to choose a OS and im using it to boot 7&vista (still vista crashes after like 3 seconds~! D: ) maybe someone could send me their boot files so i could use them or something.... plz someone help?

have you tried a vista recovery disk ?

you can get it from neosmart files

 

[limneos]

Hello Himie...

There should be an easy solution to your problem. Can you please open an elevated CMD in windows 7 and type :

BCDEDIT {enter}

and post a screenshot? We should be able to fix it.
Also please post a list of your hard drive letters, telling us which partition has vista and which one has Windows 7.

 

[Himie]

have you tried a vista recovery disk ?

you can get it from neosmart files

yes i already tried it keeps saying it cannot repair it =/
and system restore also doesnt work...and i dont wanna use that advanced cmd solution since i might end up getting it worse

Hello Himie...

There should be an easy solution to your problem. Can you please open an elevated CMD in windows 7 and type :

BCDEDIT {enter}

and post a screenshot? We should be able to fix it.
Also please post a list of your hard drive letters, telling us which partition has vista and which one has Windows 7.

thx i just attached it hope it helps...

 

[limneos]

Ok, we need to try a few things:

1st: Open again an elevated command prompt and type :

bcdedit {enter}

You will get the screen you posted above.
Now you will notice on vista's listing, next to identifier is a long CLSID within {xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx} etc. Copy that and use it below as follows: type:

bcdedit /set {your_vista_identifier} detecthal yes

full example: bcdedit /set {34235345-345345-345-345345} detecthal yes
(include the { } )
be sure to include your identifier, not the one above.

Reboot and see if there are changes in Vista's install. If not, reboot again , select Vista from the boot menu using the arrows, and press F8.
This will give you more boot options.
Select Disable automatic restart on system failure. (or something)
This will pause the BSOD and you can read what it says. Write down any readable information and post back.

Good luck.

 

[rerice]

Repair from the Install Disk

Himie,

You can use your install disk to run the Recovery Program.

Boot from the recovery disk ( Press the any key when it says )

select your Keyboard layout than select " Repair My Computer "

Windows will search for installed OS and correct the problem if
possible.

This has worked for me.
Good Luck
Richard

 

[Himie]

Ok, we need to try a few things:

1st: Open again an elevated command prompt and type :

bcdedit {enter}

You will get the screen you posted above.
Now you will notice on vista's listing, next to identifier is a long CLSID within {xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx} etc. Copy that and use it below as follows: type:

bcdedit /set {your_vista_identifier} detecthal yes

full example: bcdedit /set {34235345-345345-345-345345} detecthal yes
(include the { } )
be sure to include your identifier, not the one above.

Reboot and see if there are changes in Vista's install. If not, reboot again , select Vista from the boot menu using the arrows, and press F8.
This will give you more boot options.
Select Disable automatic restart on system failure. (or something)
This will pause the BSOD and you can read what it says. Write down any readable information and post back.

Good luck.

ok i will post the results

Himie,

You can use your install disk to run the Recovery Program.

Boot from the recovery disk ( Press the any key when it says )

select your Keyboard layout than select " Repair My Computer "

Windows will search for installed OS and correct the problem if
possible.

This has worked for me.
Good Luck
Richard

i already tried it keeps saying that it cannot repair it

 

[Himie]

nope it didnt work... =(

 

[limneos]

Ok.

Boot from your Windows 7 (not vista) dvd rom and select the option "repair my computer"

When it searches for installations, it will find both Vista and Win7.
Select Vista and choose startup repair. See if it fixes anything ( I know you've tried it, try it again) If it doesn't help, do a full disk check on your vista partition. If none of these help, sorry, you'll need to re-install Vista.
It's a 30 min installation time and another 30 mins probably for drivers/software. Will save you more time than to try to fix it.

Please try the above and good luck

 

[Himie]

Ok.

Boot from your Windows 7 (not vista) dvd rom and select the option "repair my computer"

When it searches for installations, it will find both Vista and Win7.
Select Vista and choose startup repair. See if it fixes anything ( I know you've tried it, try it again) If it doesn't help, do a full disk check on your vista partition. If none of these help, sorry, you'll need to re-install Vista.
It's a 30 min installation time and another 30 mins probably for drivers/software. Will save you more time than to try to fix it.

Please try the above and good luck

oh well thx for helping anyway its better than not to try anything and how do i make a full check on the disk?

 

[limneos]

Open "Computer", Right-click on your VISTA hard disk and choose properties. Under tools tab, choose Disk Check.

A dialog will appear with 2 options. Check both options and press OK.
You might get a message "Windows cannot check the disk while it's being used. Do you want to schedule a disk check on next restart?"
Click yes and restart. It will scan the disk for errors and attempt to fix them. Then, try booting into Windows Vista and see if it worked.

 

[rerice]

Have you tried using EasyBCD to delete one or more of the Boot items.

From your screen shot I would delete the first one. It is a duplicate and the other
two are " Recovered " which is from the restore procedure.

If that does not work, try deleting all but one.

If that does not work, Delete all three and create new boot files
using EasyBCD. Not using the recreate section but the section which
creates them one at a time.

Richard

 

[SIW2]

Hi Richard,

The first entry in the screenshot is bootmgr , the next is the bootloader for Win7, the third is the bootloader for Vista.

Hope it helps

SIW2

 

[rerice]

I Understand, but something is wrong somewhere, so why not try
replacing all three.

Richard

Otherwise it appears that a clean install is the only option.