Needs advice regarding pc parts

[sergiogarcia9]

If i aint going to game, what GFX card will you reccomend? :huh;
Sorry for my many questions btw

 

[ignatzatsonic]

If you don't need to game, you can probably do fine with onboard video if your mobo has it.

Or buy a $50 area card.

You have to come to a conclusion about tasks as I said in first post. You are changing your requirements in every post.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

Am i?

Well i decided. It will be used for making graphics, editing video, and watching Movies. Nothing more than that.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I don't have anything more to add. Good luck.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

Thanks I will go with the i5 (nearly 100% sure)
Memory will be 6 GB
And to start with onboard audio and a 500 gb HDD. The other 1 tb i can get later.

Thank you for your great help! +rep

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Glad to help. Make a new thread after you have done more research and are closer to buy date.

 

[bobkn]

Thanks I will go with the i5 (nearly 100% sure)
Memory will be 6 GB
And to start with onboard audio and a 500 gb HDD. The other 1 tb i can get later.

Thank you for your great help! +rep

A minor note:

When you say 6GB of RAM, are you aware that the Core I5 systems support dual memory channels? 6GB (3 X 2GB) would be more the norm in a Core I7 system, which does triple channel memory.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Yes--bobkn is right, I do believe.

Normally if you went with i7, you would buy 3 sticks and run them in triple channel, so you would have 3 gigs, 6 gigs, or 12 gigs, depending on whether you bought 1 gig sticks, 2 gig sticks, or 4 gig sticks.

On an i5, it would typically be 2 sticks or 4 sticks; either 1 gig each, 2 gigs each, or 4 gigs each, for a total of anywhere from 2 to 16 gigs.

As far as I know, you can run 3 sticks in an i5, but I assume that would mean running in single channel mode. I would guess that if you had to choose, 6 gigs single channel mode would be preferable to 4 gigs in dual channel mode.

Sergio: that Intel motherboard you are looking at is detailed here:

Intel® Desktop Board DP55WG - Intel® Desktop Board DP55WG support

It will support these RAM speeds: 1600/1333/1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, with a maximum of 1.6 volts.

Since you won't overclock, 1066 MHz is all you need and that will save you some money.

Here is more detail on memory. It says single channel and dual channel are both supported. There is a list of specific brand names and part numbers that will work.

Intel® Desktop Board DP55WG - System memory

FYI: within 3 or 4 months, Intel is supposed to release "Clarkdale" processors, which will be the 600 series. Several of these will be in your price range.

Clarkdales will be i5, socket 1156, and may use a different motherboard chipset than the current Lynnfields. All Clarkdales will have video ON THE PROCESSOR. All are dual core with hyperthreading and Turbo.


670, i5, socket 1156 3.46 GHz
660, i5, socket 1156 3.33 GHz
661, i5, socket 1156 3.33 GHz
650, i5, socket 1156 3.20 GHz

In turbo mode, which is single core only, they can clock roughly 10% higher in each case.

The 670 will be around $300. The others $200 or less.

So the advice is, don't buy until the last minute. These Clarkdales may be available at that time.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

I will go with the 8 gb then I will buy the i5 though, as that is really my favorite CPU

 

[nate42nd]

Isnt DDR3 more expensive than DDR2? And most motherboards are DDR2 only?

Some big Korean (and other companies) have stopped selling DDR2 to the spot market to drive the price up. They are trying to get us to switch to DDR3.

It has worked. DDR2 has gone up 100% in the past 5 months. It is now very close to the same speed DDR2.

I would just get DDR3 if you're doing it now. DDR2 does not make sense and these prices.

Also.....there are some boards that will let you use DDR2 or DDR3. There are not many, but some if you want the options in the future.

Newegg.com - JetWay JXBLUE-78GA3D-LF AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

 

[nate42nd]

I will go with the 8 gb then I will buy the i5 though, as that is really my favorite CPU

Good choice! Look into the new Gigabyte boards that have USB 3 and SATA 3 and 3 times the power to the USB ports! They are the latest stuff!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409

 

[sergiogarcia9]

So... PSU... What should i get? :huh:

 

[nate42nd]

So... PSU... What should i get? :huh:

This would be one of the best. They cost a little more but you will NEVER regret it.

Modular....and they come in higher (and lower) wattages if you so desire.

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650HX 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies

 

[sergiogarcia9]

Looked at the prices for DDR3 ram... Not cheap, i will have to go with 4 GB to start with, i think :huh:

 

[sergiogarcia9]

I would have to pay like 400 USD for 8 GB DDR3 Ram

 

[nate42nd]

I would have to pay like 400 USD for 8 GB DDR3 Ram

4 GB is a good start. I went with 8 GB and ended up moving back to 4 GB because I was no coming close to using even 4 GB.

Look around at the prices. DDR2 WAS a lot cheaper 5-6 months ago, but today they are very close and you're getting quite a bit more speed and efficiency.

 

[sergiogarcia9]

NZXT Tempest Midi Tower Black
Corsair TW3X4G1600C9DHX, 2x2048mb
Intel Core i5 Lynnfield 2.66 ghz
Intel DP55WG mATX Socket1156 NIC Bulk
500 GB HDD
Corsair TX650W
Samsung 250GB SATA2 7200Rpm


PRICE (Without DVD drive) = 865 USD (4386 DKK)

:huh: That is a tad more expensive than i want it to be

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I don't see a video card in that list.

Are you locked into that case? It is 110 here in the US. You can certainly knock 30 or 40 off that easily.

Consider these, all around $60 to $70

Antec 300; It has front and rear 120 MM fans and space for plenty of drives.

Coolermaster Centurion 534 or Centurion 590;

Gigabyte Triton 180




You have modest power supply requirements--400 to 500 watts is plenty.

These are good units and most are "80 plus certified", which is of some benefit.

Antec Earthwatts EA500 500W Continuous Power Supply - Retail

CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Retail

Seasonic M12II 430 watt modular

Seasonic SS-500ET Bronze 500W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - OEM


CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail

FSP Group SAGA+ 450R 450W ATX12V Power Supply - Retail

 

[sergiogarcia9]

I think i've found it with help from DarkNovaGamer and Mr Grim

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X2 545 3.0GHz 80W (Box) 568,00 DKK
Link: Proshop.dk ApS - AMD Phenom II X2 545 3.0GHz 80W (Box) - HDX545WFGIBOX - Pris DKK 568,00 - Processorer fra AMD

Motherboard:
ASUS M4A77TD PRO AMD770 DDR3 EPU ATX 611,00 DKK
Link: Proshop.dk ApS - ASUS M4A77TD PRO AMD770 DDR3 EPU ATX - 90-MIB9S0-G0EAY00Z - Pris DKK 611,00 - Bundkort fra ASUS

GFX Card:
ASUS GeForce GTS250 - 1,0 GB GDDR3 256bit 917.00 DKK
Proshop.dk ApS - ASUS GeForce GTS250 - 1,0 GB GDDR3 256bit - ENGTS250 DK/DI/1GD3 - Pris DKK 917,00 - Grafikkort - PCI Express fra ASUS

RAM:
Corsair TW3X4G1600C9DHX, 2x2048mb 705 DKK

HDD:
Samsung 250GB SATA2 7200Rpm 283,00 DKK

PSU:
Seasonic S12 II SS-500GB, 500W PSU 688.00 DKK

Case:
NZXT Tempest Midi Tower Black 745 DKK

ALL TOGETHER = 4517 DKK /974 AUD / 892 USD

At least i stayed under 1000 USD

 

[nate42nd]

I would disagree with that choice or CPU and motherboard, but I suppose we all have our preferences.

The i5 would be MUCH better.

But it looks good, good luck on the build, you will be more than happy I'm sure.