Modern Warfare 2 and Windows 7

[Static]

What was the point of this thread originally?

To unite and complain about Inifinity Ward's bone headed idea of no leaning and no dedicated servers!

 

[marian99]

Hi guys,

I've installed w7 x64 yesterday. I played SP under win xp x86 with no problems.

The thing is.... the game now has a lot of lag and runs horrible under w7.

I've installed all new drivers and have tried updating dx.

Any oher ideas?

Thanks!

 

[WDAexodus]

Well, there are a few things that I can think of to check without knowing your normal FPS. Check to make sure you are seeing at least three bars for your connection in MP. Also verify that you turn Vsync off. Not sure how to do this with catalyst but in advanced 3D properties within Nvidia control panel you can force off Vsync. That caps your framerate to your native refresh rate. Did you verify the same video settings that were in XP? Check AA and ensure it isn't maxed out. That's a few generic things that I can think of. Big thing is to make sure you have the lastest drivers for your video card and that your settings are the same as XP. After that if you have the problem then I would look at CPU load/memory usage to see if you are having any issues there. CNTL+ALT+DEL and select task manager and see if there are any programs running that are sucking up alot of memory. Look at your CPU load w/o MW2 running to see if it is high. Mine cycles between 2-10% idle. Usually it's at 2%. 2GB is not much memory and should be upgraded. It'll put you out 20-40 bucks for the upgrade to 4 GB. I have a 22" Samsung and maintain about 70-80 FPS at 1600x1200. I keep AA and depth of field off. Depth of field is a personal preference and doesn't greatly affect FPS. Other than 4GB of RAM and a little higher processor my system is the same.

 

[Anthony]

Hi guys,

I've installed w7 x64 yesterday. I played SP under win xp x86 with no problems.

The thing is.... the game now has a lot of lag and runs horrible under w7.

I've installed all new drivers and have tried updating dx.

Any oher ideas?

Thanks!

Have you updated your chipset drivers and gfx drivers? Please note: new gfx drivers are not always the best drivers depends on your card!! try going back a few versions!

Hope this helps & let us know how you get on

 

[berserker]

Hi guys,

I've installed w7 x64 yesterday. I played SP under win xp x86 with no problems.

The thing is.... the game now has a lot of lag and runs horrible under w7.

I've installed all new drivers and have tried updating dx.

Any oher ideas?

Thanks!

Your system specs indicate only 2 GB of system memory. You might want to add 2 more. Also, I assume you upgraded XP to 7, which means a clean install. If, however, you upgraded Vista in place then I would recommend redoing the upgrade as a clean install.

 

[JonHenry]

hi i wanna play CODMW2 on lan with a friend at our flat how do i do this any suggestions will be appreciated

 

[dave1812]

IMO, using a PC for gaming is about as irritating as using a cell phone as a computer. Each one has SO MANY pitfalls. Being an ex mechanic, I firmly believe in using the right tool for the job. For gaming, a console is light years ahead of PC gaming in terms of dedicated servers and hassle free installation and function of the games. A cell phone works better as a PHONE than all the other things people are using them for. I spent a few weeks with a BB Storm2 until I couldn't take all the frustration of frequent reboots, functions dying until I did battery pulls, failure to ring until battery pulls--between my wife and I, we owned 5 Storms and all had issues. Our LG "dumb" phones work flawlessly. There's only so many functions that any product can perform before it becomes unstable and/or underperforms many of the tasks it has been saddled with.

 

[WDAexodus]

hi i wanna play CODMW2 on lan with a friend at our flat how do i do this any suggestions will be appreciated

Best of my knowledge, you can't have a normal LAN party with MW2. You would have to be able to log into steam and then using IWNet make a private match inviting who you wanted to play. That's about as close as it gets.

 

[WDAexodus]

IMO, using a PC for gaming is about as irritating as using a cell phone as a computer. Each one has SO MANY pitfalls. Being an ex mechanic, I firmly believe in using the right tool for the job. For gaming, a console is light years ahead of PC gaming in terms of dedicated servers and hassle free installation and function of the games. A cell phone works better as a PHONE than all the other things people are using them for. I spent a few weeks with a BB Storm2 until I couldn't take all the frustration of frequent reboots, functions dying until I did battery pulls, failure to ring until battery pulls--between my wife and I, we owned 5 Storms and all had issues. Our LG "dumb" phones work flawlessly. There's only so many functions that any product can perform before it becomes unstable and/or underperforms many of the tasks it has been saddled with.

Well. I think I kinda understand your analogy of PDA's. TBH I've tried MW2 on the 360 and I have it on PC. i prefer the PC. I haven't had many issues with games at all. The only issue with MW2 that I have had is IWnet which makes the PC version like a console in terms of multiplayer matching. Plus what happens when the next gen games come out and the 360 or the PS3 need to be replaced. Now you have to spend 500+ bucks for the new system. Me I just spend a couple hundred to upgrade my video card so the game can be ran. Plus I don't have to play for a extra montly fee for XBox live or the 20 bucks for every game upgrade. Plus I alt-tab while waiting for the match to start, check email, facebook or whatever. Good luck doing that efficiently on a console. They still have a ways to go IMO. The funny thing is looking at trends, all consoles soon be HTPC's with gaming capability.

 

[dave1812]

IMO, using a PC for gaming is about as irritating as using a cell phone as a computer. Each one has SO MANY pitfalls. Being an ex mechanic, I firmly believe in using the right tool for the job. For gaming, a console is light years ahead of PC gaming in terms of dedicated servers and hassle free installation and function of the games. A cell phone works better as a PHONE than all the other things people are using them for. I spent a few weeks with a BB Storm2 until I couldn't take all the frustration of frequent reboots, functions dying until I did battery pulls, failure to ring until battery pulls--between my wife and I, we owned 5 Storms and all had issues. Our LG "dumb" phones work flawlessly. There's only so many functions that any product can perform before it becomes unstable and/or underperforms many of the tasks it has been saddled with.

Well. I think I kinda understand your analogy of PDA's. TBH I've tried MW2 on the 360 and I have it on PC. i prefer the PC. I haven't had many issues with games at all. The only issue with MW2 that I have had is IWnet which makes the PC version like a console in terms of multiplayer matching. Plus what happens when the next gen games come out and the 360 or the PS3 need to be replaced. Now you have to spend 500+ bucks for the new system. Me I just spend a couple hundred to upgrade my video card so the game can be ran. Plus I don't have to play for a extra montly fee for XBox live or the 20 bucks for every game upgrade. Plus I alt-tab while waiting for the match to start, check email, facebook or whatever. Good luck doing that efficiently on a console. They still have a ways to go IMO. The funny thing is looking at trends, all consoles soon be HTPC's with gaming capability.

I don't pay a dime to play on PSN, unlike the XBOX users who have to pay for XBOX-LIVE. I've already had my PS3 for 2 years and expect it will be good for another couple of years, so I'm not too concerned about the $400 I paid for it (I got 5 free Blu Ray movies with it)

 

[D1ABL0]

about the extra 20 bucks for upgrades I think thats the reason IW did IWNET so they can cash in on pc gamers...get it?? STEAM only and IWNET makes sense perfect sense .i luv steam but this is clearly to cash in on the maps and upgrades

 

[thefabe]

Well I got it as a Christmas present and don't really get into the online gaming. But have really enjoyed it so far, haven't finished it yet but like the new maps and such also the weapons get to use the drone to drop ordinance. Get to fight in side the White House and down streets pretty cool. But then I'm not a hard core gamer but with a GTX260 Superclocked the graphics are awesome to me anyways.

 

[Fumz]

... Being an ex mechanic, I firmly believe in using the right tool for the job. For gaming, a console is light years ahead of PC gaming in terms of dedicated servers and hassle free installation and function of the games...

I don't want bag on a man's method of gaming, but... c'mon... "light years ahead?" Really?

One can argue that consoles are easier to set up and they may get the user playing quicker (don't know, never installed a game on a console), but then wouldn't you be implying that installing and running a game on a PC is somehow "difficult"? While it's true that operating a pc requires a certain level of sophistication, the bar isn't set very high. As far as dedicated servers go, PC's have been using them for more than a decade, so I think things are backwards here: pc gaming is light years ahead of consoles.

I got a chance to run through the game over the holidays; by attempting to turn the PC into a glorified console they ruined the CoD experience. Yeah sure, the sp is graphically sweet, but there's no depth to the game, which is exceedingly short, and online play is just trash. Honestly, I don't know how console users put up with it?

P2P networks are just not designed for time sensitive data. Perhaps P2P's may "work" with a game where all you do is walk around and lather magical potions on your opponent, but they certainly don't work for fps games. Consoles deal with this major design flaw by coding auto aim into the game, but why bother playing if you're really not anyway, right? Since PC's have no hard coded auto aim, we suffer on home connections... as opposed to the enterprise class connections we're accustomed to.

 

[dave1812]

I could have sworn I mentioned it before, but I'll say it again. PS3 games don't just "auto aim" for you. There is aim assist, which can be toggled on/off, but if "auto aim" was part of CODMF2 I wonder why I just don't mow down everyone within my sights and vice versa? LOL!

There really is no "set-up" for games on PS3, other than inserting the Blu Ray disk or running a game that's been downloaded. You don't have to tweak anything. Just be sure you have a good internet connection for on line play, which applies to any platform.

 

[Fumz]

True, there is an aim assist feature in console games; that feature is also a part of many PC games, but that's different than the the auto aim consoles use to compensate for the disparity in ping they suffer... a disparity that exists because they often run games on P2P networks.

PC's don't have this "feature" because they don't need it; you can usually find a dedicated box which provides a nice low ping... a box that doesn't rely on Big Tony's home connection.

I've often heard PS3 guys say that their games run great on Sony's servers... yeah... well, how do you think they're able to do that?

Play Stations are not immune to the pitfalls of gaming on P2P networks just because they're Play Stations, besides, not all PS games run off Sony's servers: only Sony games are run on Sony's servers. Third party games, like Modern Warfare 2, use P2P networks. If auto aim wasn't hard coded into the game, you could not play... you'd never hit a thing when your ping jumped to 800ms, which, unfortunately, is not uncommon for gamers who must rely on P2P networks.

If you also have the PC version of the game you can view how bad P2P networks are for yourself. By default, each green bar you see represents 100ms, which, as any gamer who plays on dedicated servers knows, isn't exactly optimal.

• Navigate to the folder: 'program files\steam\steamapps\common\call of duty modern warfare 2\players' and open the file config_mp.cfg

• Change scoresping_interval from 100 to 20, and maxbars from 4 to 10 (10 is the max).

• This means that each of the 10 bars represents 20ms, with full green being 20ms or lower, and 1 red being 200ms or higher.
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6871/ihost.jpg

WHAT HOST ADVANTAGE LOOKS LIKE:
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... or, another way would be to fire up a PC game and find a server with the highest ping you can, and try playing... that's what consoles would be like if they didn't have auto aim as no piece of nifty code, no optimization can negate the reality of distance between client and host.

As far as why you don't mow down everyone, well... consoles sort of do... I've found that you really only have to point in the general direction of someone to earn a kill.

... and never mind about how imprecise a controller is vs a keyboard and mouse... if consoles had to deal with that thousands of guys would be stabbing their eyes out with forks.

 

[dave1812]

True, there is an aim assist feature in console games; that feature is also a part of many PC games, but that's different than the the auto aim consoles use to compensate for the disparity in ping they suffer... a disparity that exists because they often run games on P2P networks.

PC's don't have this "feature" because they don't need it; you can usually find a dedicated box which provides a nice low ping... a box that doesn't rely on Big Tony's home connection.

I've often heard PS3 guys say that their games run great on Sony's servers... yeah... well, how do you think they're able to do that?

Play Stations are not immune to the pitfalls of gaming on P2P networks just because they're Play Stations, besides, not all PS games run off Sony's servers: only Sony games are run on Sony's servers. Third party games, like Modern Warfare 2, use P2P networks. If auto aim wasn't hard coded into the game, you could not play... you'd never hit a thing when your ping jumped to 800ms, which, unfortunately, is not uncommon for gamers who must rely on P2P networks.

If you also have the PC version of the game you can view how bad P2P networks are for yourself. By default, each green bar you see represents 100ms, which, as any gamer who plays on dedicated servers knows, isn't exactly optimal.

• Navigate to the folder: 'program files\steam\steamapps\common\call of duty modern warfare 2\players' and open the file config_mp.cfg

• Change scoresping_interval from 100 to 20, and maxbars from 4 to 10 (10 is the max).

• This means that each of the 10 bars represents 20ms, with full green being 20ms or lower, and 1 red being 200ms or higher.
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6871/ihost.jpg

WHAT HOST ADVANTAGE LOOKS LIKE:
ImageShack -

... or, another way would be to fire up a PC game and find a server with the highest ping you can, and try playing... that's what consoles would be like if they didn't have auto aim as no piece of nifty code, no optimization can negate the reality of distance between client and host.

As far as why you don't mow down everyone, well... consoles sort of do... I've found that you really only have to point in the general direction of someone to earn a kill.

... and never mind about how imprecise a controller is vs a keyboard and mouse... if consoles had to deal with that thousands of guys would be stabbing their eyes out with forks.

Long distance kills in MF2 is too easy, IMO. You don't need a 'scoped rifle even. But closer up, with both parties shooting at each other at close range, if you don't get in a head shot first and the other guy does, you are a goner. It also depends heavily on which weapon one is using when trading shots. I've found the subs, using the rapid fire per, do an awesome job most of the time within about a 30' range, as long as I can avoid their tendency to "climb". I'm still trying to figure out which loadout I like the best--each one has it's pitfalls. A 3 round burst with the M16 kinda sucks, but it's got some great knock-down power. SCARH is one of my favs, loaded with a grenade launcher. Secondary weapon of choice for me is the P2000.

 

[staralfur]

Having a lot of bother with the game crashing due to iw4mp.exe has stopped working, I cant even play a full game without it happening.
Any tips?

First post here by the way, so hello everyone.

 

[dave1812]

there's a prime example of what I've been saying all along--that pc gaming is a hassle that console gaming solves!

 

[staralfur]

Perhaps, but that would mean needing the tv which would = my girlfriend giving me earache because she can't watch her silly shows. Pc gaming = a quiet life!

 

[dave1812]

Perhaps, but that would mean needing the tv which would = my girlfriend giving me earache because she can't watch her silly shows. Pc gaming = a quiet life!

all you need is a monitor to use a gaming console. it need not even have a tv tuner. see Costco for a variety of models under $300.