Can "permissions" be eliminated?

[velvetmoxie]

I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. Just converted from an older computer running Windows XP and this "permissions" thing is driving me crazy. As a creator for Poser items it is necessary to create images in Photoshop, store them on my external drive and then install them into the runtime in Poser. At least that's how it USED to be. Now in Windows 7 when I create a texture image in Photoshop and transfer it into my Poser runtime (which needs to be done in order to apply the texture to a poser character) this system will not allow Poser to access the file because it is "locked" by Photoshop. In order to create these items and make them saleable, several programs need to be used, all the programs need to access the textures I've generated and there are sometimes hundreds of files involved. Is there some way to simply turn off these permissions and locked folders altogether and allow me and my programs full access to the files I'm creating? This whole thing has put my business at a standstill. I did find the instructions for unlocking each individual file but this just simply isn't realistic--it will take months to complete a single project this way. Security is a great thing but not when it cripples the business for which I bought this computer in the first place. I'm the only one who uses this computer except for occasional net surfing--and it's locking me out of my own business, LOL! HELP!!!!!!!

 

[richc46]

I think that the best you could do is follow this excellent tutorial.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/299-user-account-control-uac-change-notification-settings.html

You could also try using the hidden administrator account, see how that works.

 

[richc46]

I have, also located this information. I have never used it and cannot recommend it. If interested be sure to start with a restore point.

Add Take Ownership Option Shortcut in Right Click Menu of Windows 7

 

[velvetmoxie]

Thank you--will give it a try! If it doesn't work I may have to try to purchase a copy of XP somewhere. I actually do like Windows 7--except for this. I hate to spend all this money and move backward, but if I can't use the computer to do what I need to do then the whole thing is worthless, LOL! Why oh Why couldn't windows have made all this "security" optional?! Will check out your suggestions tonight after work and let you know how it goes. Thanks again!

 

[richc46]

Hope that it works for you. Others may have suggestions, too. Try to hold off on spending the extra money. I am hopeful that someone will have a good suggestion

 

[richc46]

There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck

 

[Barman58]

The permissions for file access will depend on where the files are located - if for example the texture files are stored under the application's folder tree in program files, either Photoshop or Poser, this will likely cause issues due to changes in the security arrangements in win7.

If this is the case and the "Poser" application will allow it you can try moving the files to another location, preferably one under the My documents or images areas and pointing the application to the new location.

Once the files are in the new location you will need to set the permissions on the folder so that your actual username has full control of the folder. This type of change is also possible on the folders under "program Files" but is not recommended, but may be required if the application does not allow the source to be changed for these files

 

[CarlTR6]

There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck

Rich, would post post this or PM me? I would like to add this to my administrator account (if I have not all ready discovered it), not my everyday account.

 

[richc46]

There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck

Rich, would post post this or PM me? I would like to add this to my administrator account (if I have not all ready discovered it), not my everyday account.

I have sent you the information. As I mentioned, use it with caution. Personally, I use a standard account for personal use. There really is not that much need for even the regular administrator account. I like to know that the annoying UAC is helping to prevent more than just annoying problems.

 

[gaz]

I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. Just converted from an older computer running Windows XP and this "permissions" thing is driving me crazy. As a creator for Poser items it is necessary to create images in Photoshop, store them on my external drive and then install them into the runtime in Poser. At least that's how it USED to be. Now in Windows 7 when I create a texture image in Photoshop and transfer it into my Poser runtime (which needs to be done in order to apply the texture to a poser character) this system will not allow Poser to access the file because it is "locked" by Photoshop. In order to create these items and make them saleable, several programs need to be used, all the programs need to access the textures I've generated and there are sometimes hundreds of files involved. Is there some way to simply turn off these permissions and locked folders altogether and allow me and my programs full access to the files I'm creating? This whole thing has put my business at a standstill. I did find the instructions for unlocking each individual file but this just simply isn't realistic--it will take months to complete a single project this way. Security is a great thing but not when it cripples the business for which I bought this computer in the first place. I'm the only one who uses this computer except for occasional net surfing--and it's locking me out of my own business, LOL! HELP!!!!!!!

you could try running photoshop as admin,right click the icon an run as administrator??
just an idea should give you more privilages)

 

[CarlTR6]

There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck

Rich, would post post this or PM me? I would like to add this to my administrator account (if I have not all ready discovered it), not my everyday account.

I have sent you the information. As I mentioned, use it with caution. Personally, I use a standard account for personal use. There really is not that much need for even the regular administrator account. I like to know that the annoying UAC is helping to prevent more than just annoying problems.

Thank you very much for the prompt response and have a good day.

 

[unifex]

I am just thinking, when you say that the file is "locked" by Photoshop while trying to use it in another application, is this file still open in Photoshop? If yes, try closing the file in Photoshop before accessing it in Poser. If no, try closing Photoshop and see if that makes a difference. If none of these work, see where the files are actually located and try to keep them away from protected areas such as Program Files and Common Files, as already mentioned by Barman.

 

[velvetmoxie]

Though it didn't seem like it would make a difference, turning off the UAC seems to have solved the problem. I also installed that "take ownership" thing and I'm having no problems with it. I like the idea of being notified if something wants to change my computer...but not to the extent that I can't make my own changes. I also noticed that it seemed to take forever (I've been spoiled with this new computer) to start it this time--read elsewhere that when UAC is turned off this happens--but again something I'll have to deal with I guess. Unlike most people I've spoken to locally here, I rather like Windows 7--it's just this security thing that makes me crazy. And I sure didn't need to spend more money to downgrade to XP pro. So far so good in getting the programs to run on it also--though there are some smaller programs for file writing that I'm almost afraid to try--hopefully I can get back to the business of creating now and earn some money from this investment.

Just for future reference in case someone else pops on here with the same or similar problems, I was able to give "everyone" access to my entire external drive which eliminated the problem there. It was only when I installed directly to the Poser runtime that I encountered the problems. And yes, I was running Photoshop in administrator mode; it didn't make a difference. The image was not open in Photoshop at the time (though this was an excellent point) and with the frequency of changes in this process, closing Photoshop and reopening every time I create a file isn't feasible. The lock was still appearing though even when Photoshop was closed. Unfortunately, installing directly to Poser runtime does involve going through programs (86x) as that's where it's located, but Poser is designed to have this runtime added to and subtracted from--much as Photoshop is designed to allow for things such as brush additions. It seemed to be only Windows that was having a problem with it, LOL!

Since the problem seems to have gone away (for now) I haven't had occasion to use that "take ownership" program, but when (I'm sure it's a matter of time, LOL!) I do will report back and let you know how it works. As it is though, whatever it did to the registry seems not to have encumbered anything else that I can see right now.

Thanks so much for saving me on this--if I'd have pulled my hair any harder I'd be bald by now, LOL!

 

[davehc]

There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck

It is not so much a secret. It is well published on the web and ny Microsoft.
It puts you very much in the postion you are more accustomed to inWindowsa XP, of being the "Global " Administrator. ::
There are a couple of ways:
Open a command prompt(Run as Administrator.
Type the following command and enter.
net user administrator /active
Log out and see if you have a new alternative login, as well as your existing one. If not, do it the long way.
Shut down the computer for a cold boot. Tap the "F8" key as you are booting.
Select "Safe Mode with networking" from the boot menu.
Log into windows 7 with your personal account that holds the administrator access.
Open a command window (START--->RUN--->CMD.exe). At the command prompt type the following net user administrator /active
Log out and log back in as administrator.

Another way
Go to Start
Type Control UserPasswords2.
Click Advanced.
Click Advanced again.
Select Users.
Select Administrator and untick the the box “Administrator is disabled”
Now log out and login as Administrator.

The action leaves you a little more vulnerable to outside attack, (Using MS anti attack tools) Not a big issue if you are confident with your anti virus control etc.

 

[richc46]

There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck

It is not so much a secret. It is well published on the web and ny Microsoft.
It puts you very much in the postion you are more accustomed to inWindowsa XP, of being the "Global " Administrator. ::
There are a couple of ways:
Open a command prompt(Run as Administrator.
Type the following command and enter.
net user administrator /active
Log out and see if you have a new alternative login, as well as your existing one. If not, do it the long way.
Shut down the computer for a cold boot. Tap the "F8" key as you are booting.
Select "Safe Mode with networking" from the boot menu.
Log into windows 7 with your personal account that holds the administrator access.
Open a command window (START--->RUN--->CMD.exe). At the command prompt type the following net user administrator /active
Log out and log back in as administrator.

Another way
Go to Start
Type Control UserPasswords2.
Click Advanced.
Click Advanced again.
Select Users.
Select Administrator and untick the the box “Administrator is disabled”
Now log out and login as Administrator.

The action leaves you a little more vulnerable to outside attack, (Using MS anti attack tools) Not a big issue if you are confident with your anti virus control etc.

I agree that it is not really a secret, but I feel it should be used as a last resort. I was trying to help the poster, in the way that I felt was best, while assuring him that there were still alternative methods to get him up an running.

 

[richc46]

Though it didn't seem like it would make a difference, turning off the UAC seems to have solved the problem. I also installed that "take ownership" thing and I'm having no problems with it. I like the idea of being notified if something wants to change my computer...but not to the extent that I can't make my own changes. I also noticed that it seemed to take forever (I've been spoiled with this new computer) to start it this time--read elsewhere that when UAC is turned off this happens--but again something I'll have to deal with I guess. Unlike most people I've spoken to locally here, I rather like Windows 7--it's just this security thing that makes me crazy. And I sure didn't need to spend more money to downgrade to XP pro. So far so good in getting the programs to run on it also--though there are some smaller programs for file writing that I'm almost afraid to try--hopefully I can get back to the business of creating now and earn some money from this investment.

Just for future reference in case someone else pops on here with the same or similar problems, I was able to give "everyone" access to my entire external drive which eliminated the problem there. It was only when I installed directly to the Poser runtime that I encountered the problems. And yes, I was running Photoshop in administrator mode; it didn't make a difference. The image was not open in Photoshop at the time (though this was an excellent point) and with the frequency of changes in this process, closing Photoshop and reopening every time I create a file isn't feasible. The lock was still appearing though even when Photoshop was closed. Unfortunately, installing directly to Poser runtime does involve going through programs (86x) as that's where it's located, but Poser is designed to have this runtime added to and subtracted from--much as Photoshop is designed to allow for things such as brush additions. It seemed to be only Windows that was having a problem with it, LOL!

Since the problem seems to have gone away (for now) I haven't had occasion to use that "take ownership" program, but when (I'm sure it's a matter of time, LOL!) I do will report back and let you know how it works. As it is though, whatever it did to the registry seems not to have encumbered anything else that I can see right now.

Thanks so much for saving me on this--if I'd have pulled my hair any harder I'd be bald by now, LOL!

Thank you for your kind words and rep. I am glad that your computer is working the way you prefer. I am also glad that you saved the information for further use, it was very prudent of you.