Partitioning

Bellerophon

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Here's my problem, I have a 2 partition disk split: C:\Se7en & E:\data . I want to sneak in a partition at the start of E: to hold XP os and thus "F:" becomes my new data partition. Shrink as far as I know will create a space after the currently existing E:. The added problem is I am only playing with a small drive and cannot just copy over the data. Any help welcome.

I reckon I will have to flatten the E:, or at least part of it me thinks!! Unless someone out ther can help.
 

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Hi Bellerophon,

Although the windows disk management will not allow you to do what you want to do 3rd party options will allow this.

Have a search for gparted Live CD which will allow this and is open source -

Note you may need to do a start-up repair after use so keep the Windows 7 Install dvd handy, although as you are not touching the system partition it should not be required in your case

Once you have the partitions organised how you need have a look here it's for Vista/XP but should give some insight ;)

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed_first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm

Don't forget all these things are possible and normally work without problems but ensure any irreplaceable data is backed up before you start :geek:
 

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Hi Bellerophon,

Although the windows disk management will not allow you to do what you want to do 3rd party options will allow this.

Have a search for gparted Live CD which will allow this and is open source -

Note you may need to do a start-up repair after use so keep the Windows 7 Install dvd handy, although as you are not touching the system partition it should not be required in your case

Once you have the partitions organised how you need have a look here it's for Vista/XP but should give some insight ;)



How to dual boot Vista and XP (with Vista installed first) -- the step-by-step guide with screenshots

Don't forget all these things are possible and normally work without problems but ensure any irreplaceable data is backed up before you start :geek:


THX for the second time

Was using partition magic before and I know this would do it but it doesn't seem to like 7, as you say there are programs out there just findind a decent one. Had a quick look through the freeware section but couldn't see anything apart from easybcd

:p
 

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THX for the second time

Was using partition magic before and I know this would do it but it doesn't seem to like 7, as you say there are programs out there just findind a decent one. Had a quick look through the freeware section but couldn't see anything apart from easybcd

:p


I have my other machines partitioned so I am OK with the genreals. I have a triple and a dual boot machines besides this one.

Perhaps you could give me some insight into my other problem, which would negate the need for a dual boot on the third machine??
 

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Windows Se7en Ultimate x64
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AMD Athlon Phenom II 550 (Dual Core at the moment)
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DFI LPJR790GX-M2RS
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4GB OCZ reaper DDR2 PC8500 1066
Graphics Card(s)
CrosssFire 2 x Sapphire RADEON HD3650 (512 MB GDDR3)
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Built-in
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Samsung LE-40B551 40 in. HDTV, HP w2007v, Elo Touchscreen
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 pixels
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility Series 30GB SATA II 2.5" Solid State Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB SATA II
Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB SATA II
Western Digital Caviar 500GB SATA II
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OCZ 600W StealthXStream
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Antec P180 Mini
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Cordless Desktop® EX 90
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WinTV-NOVA-T PCI
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Hi Bellerophon,

Have a look Here ...

GParted -- Live CD/USB/PXE/HD

As in my OP you have to be a bit careful as it can confuse the Windows Boot managers but I've used it for a while without any real issues. and as it's a bootable CD it is totally OS independent. I personally use Paragon Drive manager 8.5 within vista to partition my drives ( available free ATM for UK users only)

I also always use easyBCD to manage the dual boot using the Vista / windows 7 boot manager
 

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Hi Bellerophon,

Have a look Here ...

GParted -- Live CD/USB/PXE/HD

As in my OP you have to be a bit careful as it can confuse the Windows Boot managers but I've used it for a while without any real issues. and as it's a bootable CD it is totally OS independent. I personally use Paragon Drive manager 8.5 within vista to partition my drives ( available free ATM for UK users only)

I also always use easyBCD to manage the dual boot using the Vista / windows 7 boot manager

Many thanks, it looks like I have been able to now install Paragon Drive manager 8.5 thanks to your previous tip (compatibilty), I think I said partion magic before I meant, Paragon Drive manager 8.5.

I like to use VistaBootPRO 3.3 to control boot options, seems quite good.
 

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Windows Se7en Ultimate x64
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AMD Athlon Phenom II 550 (Dual Core at the moment)
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DFI LPJR790GX-M2RS
Memory
4GB OCZ reaper DDR2 PC8500 1066
Graphics Card(s)
CrosssFire 2 x Sapphire RADEON HD3650 (512 MB GDDR3)
Sound Card
Built-in
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Samsung LE-40B551 40 in. HDTV, HP w2007v, Elo Touchscreen
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 pixels
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility Series 30GB SATA II 2.5" Solid State Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB SATA II
Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB SATA II
Western Digital Caviar 500GB SATA II
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OCZ 600W StealthXStream
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Antec P180 Mini
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Hi,

Glad to see you got things sorted out..

VistaBootPro is a good Application and I have used it myself :geek: It's just that I found EasyBCD more intuitive to use, just personal choice

Either is a lot better than Microsoft's Built-in bcdedit :D
 

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    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
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    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
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    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
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    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
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    Stock - Active Fan Control
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    Backlit + Various Logitech
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    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
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