Windows 7 not as popular as I thought...

[Thorsen]

Maybe, but many will upgrade thier computer over the next 3 years as well. Only people who will wait are those who need to get a new comp 6 months before Win8.

As well, businesses will still be transferring over and aren't going to hop onto Win8 if Win7 is tested and stable and win8 is brand new and not tested. You will also be seeing increased use of Win7 by corperations as XP is dropped from support.

 

[sygnus21]

I'm not sure that 7 will top XP. Reason: MS wants to release another OS in 3 years time.

That's an interesting point, considering XP's longevity compared to other MS OS's.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I'm not sure that 7 will top XP. Reason: MS wants to release another OS in 3 years time. So, some may simply skip right over 7 and onto the next thing.

Bring on Windows 8, I'm ready!


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[mickey megabyte]

A better comparison would be how are sales between the two at a given period (First year release sales vs. XP’s first year release sales).

That would be the only really fair comparison.

It wouldn't really be that fair, since far more people and businesses now use computers compared to when XP was released...

 

[BCXtreme]

And I have no doubt that Windows 7 will come to top both Vista and XP, the only reason it hasn't already is because most people do not upgrade their OSes, they just use whatever their PC came with until they get a new PC.

I'm not sure that 7 will top XP. Reason: MS wants to release another OS in 3 years time. So, some may simply skip right over 7 and onto the next thing.

Still don't know why MS wants to rush like that, but only the people like us who even pay attention to OS developments might do that. The average Joe probably isn't even aware that MS wants to release Win 8 so soon, and their pre-2007 OEM XP rig probably won't last until 2012/2013 without intense maintenance that they can't provide.

 

[mitchell65]

Quote some time ago from MS
Microsoft has changed its approach to naming operating systems (e.g XP, Vista) and is using an internal numbering system and the next Windows operating system, Windows 7, is the 7th release. Hence the replacement for Windows 7 is expected to be called Windows 8.
You get a trillion dollars a year for coming up with that sort of logic! Oh how I wish I were brainy

 

[BCXtreme]

Quote some time ago from MS
Microsoft has changed its approach to naming operating systems (e.g XP, Vista) and is using an internal numbering system and the next Windows operating system, Windows 7, is the 7th release. Hence the replacement for Windows 7 is expected to be called Windows 8.
You get a trillion dollars a year for coming up with that sort of logic! Oh how I wish I were brainy

Not so fast, if they keep up that naming scheme to version 10, Apple will probably sue the pants off them, or at least try to.

 

[pparks1]

Still don't know why MS wants to rush like that

Revenue, and it's what everybody else does.

The average Joe probably isn't even aware that MS wants to release Win 8 so soon, and their pre-2007 OEM XP rig probably won't last until 2012/2013 without intense maintenance that they can't provide.

The average Joe could even be concerned that there must be something wrong with 7 if 8 is coming out so quickly.

Not so fast, if they keep up that naming scheme to version 10, Apple will probably sue the pants off them, or at least try to.

Not unless then call it Windows X. Which I am sure they won't do. And besides, most Apple fans believe everything is already copied from their beloved MAC's...so naming it Windows OS X would only make sense.

 

[BCXtreme]

Still don't know why MS wants to rush like that

Revenue, and it's what everybody else does.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/video_how_build_pc_ever_step_explainedThe

The average Joe probably isn't even aware that MS wants to release Win 8 so soon, and their pre-2007 OEM XP rig probably won't last until 2012/2013 without intense maintenance that they can't provide.

The average Joe could even be concerned that there must be something wrong with 7 if 8 is coming out so quickly.

I never used to know when a new Windows was coming out until it hit the shelf. But either way you've just proven how illogical it is that MS would rush out a new OS so quickly.

 

[sygnus21]

A better comparison would be how are sales between the two at a given period (First year release sales vs. XP’s first year release sales).

That would be the only really fair comparison.

It wouldn't really be that fair, since far more people and businesses now use computers compared to when XP was released...

But it would be the "fairer" (fairest) comparison

 

[Thorsen]

Still don't know why MS wants to rush like that

Revenue, and it's what everybody else does.

The average Joe probably isn't even aware that MS wants to release Win 8 so soon, and their pre-2007 OEM XP rig probably won't last until 2012/2013 without intense maintenance that they can't provide.

The average Joe could even be concerned that there must be something wrong with 7 if 8 is coming out so quickly.

I never used to know when a new Windows was coming out until it hit the shelf. But either way you've just proven how illogical it is that MS would rush out a new OS so quickly.

this actually is logical although a bit counter-intuitive.

You get revenue again for the new release through OEM's and people who are using 7 will think there is something wrong and get win8.....Thus more revenue.

Vista was knocked around a bit. It still sold through all the OEMs and when 7 came out, the average Joe's moved to Win7...

 

[gregrocker]

XPired .

 

[Jugador]

I guess what got me to searching this topic in the first place, was a fear of a bunch of "XP incompatible" software flooding the market soon, and my being forced to give up my beloved XP.

But, it looks like there's enough folks out there still using XP, that it shouldn't be a problem anytime soon.

I figure I've got at least 3 years, and like the other poster said, Windows 8 will probably be coming out, by then. So, I'll probably skip Win7...

 

[gregrocker]

Why do that? Win7 leaves nothing to be desired.

The only thing they can improve upon is to put the display in midair and replace mouse with our hands.

Wait, they've done that with touchscreen!

I'm holding out for midair.

 

[Jugador]

Why do that? Win7 leaves nothing to be desired.

Money...I probably don't need the Ultimate, but I'd want to at least get the Pro, and that's about $140 for an oem. If M$ would just be reasonable (around $40 to $50 bucks), I'd probably upgrade every time.

 

[Thorsen]

XP is covered through XP mode and compatibility modes, most everything can be ran on 7, but if it isn't you can use XP mode for legacy programs. You also dont have to get the 64x Win7, there is a 32x version that still covers most everything. I have 64x and I can't use the older programs, but I am finding tons of new software that is compatible that covers all the functionality of any other programs I lost:

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/92-free-great-programs-windows-7-a.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/11082-free-native-64-bit-programs.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/25539-windows-7-rtm-game-compatibility.html

 

[Bootz]

That is because so many offices,company's and bussinesses are still using XP, stuck in the past with an old Op system and old outdated software is the reason why. Not to mention the cost of upgrading all those old systems and software to work with Windows 7 is considerable. These things take time and money so the transition to Windows 7 is slow.

Yep and with this economy, businesses are less likely to make the switch right away (believe me i work for one of thos comanies lol).

I think if our economy wasnt so down right now, more businesses would be making the switch sooner or have already made the switch.

 

[chev65]

That is because so many offices,company's and bussinesses are still using XP, stuck in the past with an old Op system and old outdated software is the reason why. Not to mention the cost of upgrading all those old systems and software to work with Windows 7 is considerable. These things take time and money so the transition to Windows 7 is slow.

Yep and with this economy, businesses are less likely to make the switch right away (believe me i work for one of thos comanies lol).

I think if our economy wasnt so down right now, more businesses would be making the switch sooner or have already made the switch.

Somebody actually quoated me, maybe I should respond....

I can see those old XP machines running that ancient software when ever I go to my dentist office or just about any doctors office or hospital. Not even the best hospitals with the newest stuff has made any attempt to upgrade their systems yet.

They will probably need to hire someone to rewrite all that software or make it compatible with Windows 7. I won't even get into all the Group Policy settings that will have to be redone on the Admin machines. Then they would have to retrain everyone to use the new software and Windows 7. Not to mention deciding wihch A/V to use, most of which tend to cause more problems than they solve at this point.

I guess the question is, how long do those company's want to remain in the past with a relic of an OP system that won't have any support, along with outdated, ugly and sometimes inefficient software that looks like it was created back in the Windows 98" days. :sarc:

 

[BCXtreme]

That is because so many offices,company's and bussinesses are still using XP, stuck in the past with an old Op system and old outdated software is the reason why. Not to mention the cost of upgrading all those old systems and software to work with Windows 7 is considerable. These things take time and money so the transition to Windows 7 is slow.

Yep and with this economy, businesses are less likely to make the switch right away (believe me i work for one of thos comanies lol).

I think if our economy wasnt so down right now, more businesses would be making the switch sooner or have already made the switch.

Somebody actually quoated me, maybe I should respond....

I can see those old XP machines running that ancient software when ever I go to my dentist office or just about any doctors office or hospital. Not even the best hospitals with the newest stuff has made any attempt to upgrade their systems yet.

They will probably need to hire someone to rewrite all that software or make it compatible with Windows 7. I won't even get into all the Group Policy settings that will have to be redone on the Admin machines. Then they would have to retrain everyone to use the new software and Windows 7. Not to mention deciding wihch A/V to use, most of which tend to cause more problems than they solve at this point.

I guess the question is, how long do those company's want to remain in the past with a relic of an OP system that won't have any support, along with outdated, ugly and sometimes inefficient software that looks like it was created back in the Windows 98" days. :sarc:

They, like the diehard XP holdouts, will eventually have to switch, just like anyone that does anything important with PCs had to switch from DOS to Windows 9x/NT/2000 to XP.

 

[pparks1]

I guess the question is, how long do those company's want to remain in the past with a relic of an OP system that won't have any support, along with outdated, ugly and sometimes inefficient software that looks like it was created back in the Windows 98" days. :sarc:

Well, most offices and businesses don't give a squat about eye-candy. While security wasn't as good in XP...with corporate firewalls and such the issue is less of a problem then home users. And there is retraining office staff...which can consist of a fair amount of dollars and time.

Money...I probably don't need the Ultimate, but I'd want to at least get the Pro, and that's about $140 for an oem. If M$ would just be reasonable (around $40 to $50 bucks), I'd probably upgrade every time.

Yeah, so many of us here have Technet and don't realize how much this stuff costs the average joe. I mean seriously, you can get Technet Standard for $199 and get dozens of copies of Windows, Server and Office....or you can spend $200+ and get 1 copy of Windows 7 retail. It just doesn't make sense.