Solved Best card for around $200?

[XGamer95]

I'm looking to get a new video card, but can only afford a card that is around $200. I was looking at the GTX 460 and the HD 5830 since they are about the same price. Which one of those is better? Also, would I see a great improvement in frame rates with either of these cards (currently have an 8800 GT)? I'm using a 23" monitor with 1920x1080 native resolution. My current hardware is a Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.4 Ghz (Q6600), 3 GB RAM, and an 8800 GT. Any other suggestions are welcome

 

[andyandrewjim]

Get the ati it is better. They are more ahead the nvidia. It has eyefinity so if you ever got a second monitor you could make it one screen. I recommend going to newegg to get it they would sell it for less.

 

[jebuchanan]

These cards are very competitive/close in performance.
Compared to the 8800GT, you should definitely see an improvement.

With benchmark figures [of the two you are looking at] being very close, it then becomes a choice of which card do you like better?

 

[XGamer95]

Now, the thing is, is the 1GB GTX 460 better than the HD 5830? And is it worth the extra $30 or so when on a budget? I really need to be sure cause I probably won't be getting another video card for quite a while.

 

[andyandrewjim]

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125335&cm_re=GTX_460-_-14-125-335-_-Product this is the GTX 460 and this is the HD 5830 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125317&cm_re=HD_5830-_-14-125-317-_-Product this is the lowest i could found the ATI is better is many ways. First the both the DirectX is the same. Second the core clock is better on the ATI. If your going to game with this go with the ATI. It has a full HDMI output. Look and them and see for yourself.

 

[XGamer95]

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125335&cm_re=GTX_460-_-14-125-335-_-Product this is the GTX 460 and this is the HD 5830 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125317&cm_re=HD_5830-_-14-125-317-_-Product this is the lowest i could found the ATI is better is many ways. First the both the DirectX is the same. Second the core clock is better on the ATI. If your going to game with this go with the ATI. It has a full HDMI output. Look and them and see for yourself.

It did seem to me that the specs on the ATI card were better, but I don't really know much about them so I wasn't sure. The only problem is the ATI card may be too long and not fit in my case. I have a Dell XPS 420 so.....

 

[Solarstarshines]

to be honest the 5830 and the 5770 are the same card only differnce is the 5770 is 128 bit and the 5830 256 bit compared to nvdia everyone and i mean mostly everyone is going ati the shopper now days go for a more convenient card vs all that money plus long term

there will always be a upgrade and basicly ati is starting to put nvida in there place but up to you like i said before the 5830 and the 5770 are the same card

you can also grab that 5770 for alittle less and save some budget

 

[andyandrewjim]

"XPS 420:Mainstream and high end graphics options from NVIDIA and ATI"
So I think your computer can hold a ati from the sounds of it. I got it from the dell site.

 

[Davidxtux]

If your talking between improvement.. The 5830 will sit behind a 460 Fermi. This is the difference between manufacturer specs and actual run-time.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460 768MB Video Card | NVIDIA,GeForce GTX-460,Review,Fermi,GF104,768MB,Video Card,NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460 768MB Video Card GF104 Fermi GPU Graphics Frame Rate Performance Benchmark Review

On a side note: These 2 cards will trade blow to blow on some games and other games, (especially older games) the 460 will outperform. This really comes down to user preference. Are you ATI or Nvidia?

 

[SlackerITGuy]

I'm looking to get a new video card, but can only afford a card that is around $200. I was looking at the GTX 460 and the HD 5830 since they are about the same price. Which one of those is better? Also, would I see a great improvement in frame rates with either of these cards (currently have an 8800 GT)? I'm using a 23" monitor with 1920x1080 native resolution. My current hardware is a Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.4 Ghz (Q6600), 3 GB RAM, and an 8800 GT. Any other suggestions are welcome

No question about it.

GTX 460 all the way. 5850-level performance for ~$200.

 

[hawkin90]

My tip: Save up a little more and go for a better ATI card

 

[XGamer95]

If your talking between improvement.. The 5830 will sit behind a 460 Fermi. This is the difference between manufacturer specs and actual run-time.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460 768MB Video Card | NVIDIA,GeForce GTX-460,Review,Fermi,GF104,768MB,Video Card,NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460 768MB Video Card GF104 Fermi GPU Graphics Frame Rate Performance Benchmark Review

On a side note: These 2 cards will trade blow to blow on some games and other games, (especially older games) the 460 will outperform. This really comes down to user preference. Are you ATI or Nvidia?

I don't really have a preference, but I think NVIDIA is pretty "cool". Also, would it be worth it to get the 1GB Superclocked EE GTX 460 (01G-P3-1373-AR): http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=01G-P3-1373-AR&family=GeForce 400 Series Family&sw= priced at $250 or is it not really worth it? If it is in a way should I then just spend a few extra bucks and, if there is, get a card a step up?

 

[Davidxtux]

If your talking between improvement.. The 5830 will sit behind a 460 Fermi. This is the difference between manufacturer specs and actual run-time.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460 768MB Video Card | NVIDIA,GeForce GTX-460,Review,Fermi,GF104,768MB,Video Card,NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460 768MB Video Card GF104 Fermi GPU Graphics Frame Rate Performance Benchmark Review

On a side note: These 2 cards will trade blow to blow on some games and other games, (especially older games) the 460 will outperform. This really comes down to user preference. Are you ATI or Nvidia?

I don't really have a preference, but I think NVIDIA is pretty "cool". Also, would it be worth it to get the 1GB Superclocked EE GTX 460 (01G-P3-1373-AR): EVGA | Products priced at $250 or is it not really worth it? If it is in a way should I then just spend a few extra bucks and, if there is, get a card a step up?

The superclocked edition starts touching near performance of a ati 5850. So performance to dollar if it is in your price range.. then get it. If you have a bit more to spend and can get the 5850.. then get that instead.

 

[JonM33]

No question about it.

GTX 460 all the way. 5850-level performance for ~$200.

It's actually behind the Radeon HD 5850 in most games. But compared to a Radeon HD 5830, the GTX 460 is a better option.

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: The $200 King - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

 

[XGamer95]

Thanks guys you really helped me a lot! Any more information and suggestions are very welcome

EDIT: Oh yeah... one more thing I forgot (could be pretty important). If I put the new card in a PCI Express x16 slot, and not a 2.0 slot, how much performance loss am I looking at? Will it still be worth it or would it than just be smart to upgrade the mobo first? Don't really have the money for it though...

 

[JonM33]

Thanks guys you really helped me a lot! Any more information and suggestions are very welcome

EDIT: Oh yeah... one more thing I forgot (could be pretty important). If I put the new card in a PCI Express x16 slot, and not a 2.0 slot, how much performance loss am I looking at? Will it still be worth it or would it than just be smart to upgrade the mobo first? Don't really have the money for it though...

You won't notice any difference. I ran my Radeon HD 5850 (PCIe 2.0) on a P35 motherboard (PCIe 1.0) and it wasn't slowed down by any means. When I upgraded to a P45 motherboard (PCIe 2.0) I didn't notice any improvement.

 

[SlackerITGuy]

No question about it.

GTX 460 all the way. 5850-level performance for ~$200.

It's actually behind the Radeon HD 5850 in most games. But compared to a Radeon HD 5830, the GTX 460 is a better option.

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: The $200 King - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Check out the performance when AA is enabled:

GeForce GTX 460 1GB Bad Company 2 (DX11) Performance | bit-tech.net

 

[XGamer95]

Thanks guys you really helped me a lot! Any more information and suggestions are very welcome

EDIT: Oh yeah... one more thing I forgot (could be pretty important). If I put the new card in a PCI Express x16 slot, and not a 2.0 slot, how much performance loss am I looking at? Will it still be worth it or would it than just be smart to upgrade the mobo first? Don't really have the money for it though...

You won't notice any difference. I ran my Radeon HD 5850 (PCIe 2.0) on a P35 motherboard (PCIe 1.0) and it wasn't slowed down by any means. When I upgraded to a P45 motherboard (PCIe 2.0) I didn't notice any improvement.

Alright, now I just have to make sure it will fit and pick a new PSU.

 

[imeem]

GTX 460 all the way, cuz of the performance of that card at 200$. Pretty good at overclocking and it beat some of the higher nvidia cards in some test when overclocked. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB and 1GB Video Card Reviews - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 Overclocking - Legit Reviews

 

[jebuchanan]

I do recommend the 1GB over the 768MB GTX460 (better performance).