Solved Best card for around $200?

[Solarstarshines]

1gb makes all the difference and ussually nvidia uses ddr3 on there gpus but noticable difference now there using ddr5 but i would still run with ati because nvidia is always over priced and there will always be another fade gpu series comming out in the next few months

so why bother spending the extra cash cause in the long run you can get a better card for less price and upgrade will still be cheaper in the long run vs nvidia

 

[XGamer95]

I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors."

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?

 

[chakradhar]

Both cards are having their own pros and cons
the results of various bench markings are here
for GTX 460 card is Palit GTX 460 and for 5830 card is asus Radeon HD 5830

futuremark 3D vantage @1920x1200

GTX 460 :8965
ATI 5830 :8259
for game bench mark
alien vs predator directx 11 based game with maxquality 4xAA,16xAF@192x1200

GTX 460 :avg 30 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 23 fps

battlefield bad company 2 directx 11 based game with Maxquality 4xAA,16xAF@1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 54 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 48 fps

call of duty modern warfare 2 with 4xAA@1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 56 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 38 fps

crysis warhead @1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 37 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 32 fps

dirt2 which is a directx11 based game @1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 73 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 51 fps

farcry2 directx 10 based game @1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 67 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 31 fps



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Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum & Inno3D GeForce GTX 460

By Steven Walton on July 12, 2010
Editor: Julio Franco
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Final Thoughts: A Winning GeForce

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has done an excellent job with the GeForce GTX 460 and it’s the first graphics card from the green camp that we have genuinely been excited about from the get go in quite some time.

The GTX 460 768MB version is expected to retail for just $200 and has inherited the responsibility of taking on the [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Radeon[/COLOR][/COLOR] HD 5830. So the first question we must address is how these cards compare? Using our 1920x1200 data we find that on average the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) was 7% faster than the Radeon HD 5830. Not bad for a graphics card that costs the same, consumes slightly less power, runs cooler and quieter.
However, the real ace in the hole for the GeForce GTX 460 is its extreme overclocking ability. Without adjusting the GPU voltage in any way, we were able to boost the clock frequency from 675MHz to 865MHz. This results in a hefty performance gain, in games such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for example, we saw a [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]bump[/COLOR][/COLOR]

of over 20% allowing the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) to mimic GeForce GTX 470's performance at a fraction of the price.
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Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum & Inno3D GeForce GTX 460

By Steven Walton on July 12, 2010
Editor: Julio Franco
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Final Thoughts: A Winning GeForce

[COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Nvidia[/COLOR][/COLOR]
has done an excellent job with the GeForce GTX 460 and it’s the first graphics card from the green camp that we have genuinely been excited about from the get go in quite some time.
The GTX 460 768MB version is expected to retail for just $200 and has inherited the responsibility of taking on the [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Radeon[/COLOR][/COLOR] HD 5830. So the first question we must address is how these cards compare? Using our 1920x1200 data we find that on average the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) was 7% faster than the Radeon HD 5830. Not bad for a graphics card that costs the same, consumes slightly less power, runs cooler and quieter. However, the real ace in the hole for the GeForce GTX 460 is its extreme overclocking ability. Without adjusting the GPU voltage in any way, we were able to boost the clock frequency from 675MHz to 865MHz. This results in a hefty performance gain, in games such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for example, we saw a [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]bump[/COLOR][/COLOR]

of over 20% allowing the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) to mimic GeForce GTX 470's performance at a fraction of the price.
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Looking at the 1GB variant of the GTX 460, we must give props to Palit who are showing an impressive product in the GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1GB). It's rare to see these days a [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]graphics [COLOR=#05408f !important]cards[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] using a custom PCB, cooling and factory overclocking on the same package and at launch time.

The 1GB version of the GeForce GTX 460 has been suggested to retail for $230-240, about 20% more expensive than the 768MB version. On paper the 1GB cards have 33% more bandwidth at its disposal thanks to the 256-bit wide memory bus. The Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1GB) is of course much faster than a standard 1GB card running at stock speeds. For a brief comparison of the two look at our overclocking section where we underclocked our Palit sample.
At its factory overclocked speeds, we found the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum to deliver roughly the same performance of the GeForce GTX 470 which costs considerably more, consumes more power and is louder. Moreover, when compared to the Radeon HD 5850, the GTX 460 Sonic Platinum was more often than not the faster board, all while saving you a hundred bucks in the process.

so better to take GTX 460




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[XGamer95]

Can someone answer my post up above?

 

[Everlong]

I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors."

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?

It means dual width as in it will take up two slots in your case. So it will require a PCI-E x16 slot, and the cooler on it will take up the slot below it.

You'll need to check your PSU as well before buying. The card requires 450 watts, with 24 amps on the 12v rail. It needs two 6-pin cables connected to it. I wouldn't personally use molex-to-6pin adapters as it's always better to use proper 6-pin cables, so check your PSU. I imagine your PSU should have atleast one 6-pin cable on it, then you could use the adapter that comes with the card.

 

[JonM33]

Check out the performance when AA is enabled:

GeForce GTX 460 1GB Bad Company 2 (DX11) Performance | bit-tech.net

Yes, still below the Radeon HD 5850 average framerate. Thanks for helping to support my statement.

 

[JonM33]

Alright, now I just have to make sure it will fit and pick a new PSU.

I highly recommend Corsair power supplies. The HX series are probably the best.

I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors."

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?

Yes, it means that it will occupy 2 expansion card slots due to the heatsink.

Do not use any adapter. Get a power supply with a pair of 6-pin PCIe connectors.

 

[XGamer95]

I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors."

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?

It means dual width as in it will take up two slots in your case. So it will require a PCI-E x16 slot, and the cooler on it will take up the slot below it.

You'll need to check your PSU as well before buying. The card requires 450 watts, with 24 amps on the 12v rail. It needs two 6-pin cables connected to it. I wouldn't personally use molex-to-6pin adapters as it's always better to use proper 6-pin cables, so check your PSU. I imagine your PSU should have atleast one 6-pin cable on it, then you could use the adapter that comes with the card.

I was planning on getting a new PSU. I chose this (Newegg.com - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply) Rosewill 700 watt PSU. It says it has a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin, so I believe I'm good on that. I don't know if it has 24 amps on the 12v rail though. Could you tell me if it would be good?

 

[JonM33]

I was planning on getting a new PSU. I chose this (Newegg.com - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply) Rosewill 700 watt PSU. It says it has a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin, so I believe I'm good on that. I don't know if it has 24 amps on the 12v rail though. Could you tell me if it would be good?

Rosewill is NewEgg's hardware brand. I wouldn't touch one of their power supplies. Check out the Corsair TX series. It should fit your budget.

Also, you do NOT need a 700W PSU with that video card.

 

[XGamer95]

I was planning on getting a new PSU. I chose this (Newegg.com - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply) Rosewill 700 watt PSU. It says it has a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin, so I believe I'm good on that. I don't know if it has 24 amps on the 12v rail though. Could you tell me if it would be good?

Rosewill is NewEgg's hardware brand. I wouldn't touch one of their power supplies. Check out the Corsair TX series. It should fit your budget.

Also, you do NOT need a 700W PSU with that video card.

What about this one: Newegg.com - Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 Modular Active PFC Power Supply or this one: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ?

 

[JonM33]

What about this one: Newegg.com - Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 Modular Active PFC Power Supply or this one: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ?

That Antec has my seal of approval.

 

[XGamer95]

What about this one: Newegg.com - Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 Modular Active PFC Power Supply or this one: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ?

That Antec has my seal of approval.

I don't even know why I suggested that one considering I do not think that is enough power. The Newegg PSU calculator said about 575W so I think I should go with the 650W just to be on the safe side. Also, would both of these work well with the video card?

 

[JonM33]

I don't even know why I suggested that one considering I do not think that is enough power. The Newegg PSU calculator said about 575W so I think I should go with the 650W just to be on the safe side. Also, would both of these work well with the video card?

You're looking at 300-330W max power load from a GTX 460.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/17

That Antec would be perfect.

 

[Miltzi]

Do not buy the HD5830, its price is outrageous when looking at its performance. It performs only slightly higher than the 5770 and far worse than the 5850 and yet is priced directly in the middle of the two. Save some money and buy the 5770, its price/performance is much better than the 5830, otherwise, its worth paying more for the 5850 as its performance is much much better.

 

[F1FAN]

i have an EVGA GTX 460 768mb and allthough its not the 1GB version, it still fantastic1 so quiet, the 768mb versions have the ref nvidia coolers so they are dead quiet even in games. I game on 1680x1050 so not a huge resolution, so really the 1GB is not needed unless you are going to be playing GTA, witch i dont since i have that on PS3, i mainly play cod, borderlands and left for dead and they run them without ANY fram drops below 60fps. It beats the 5770 by far i think since i have tested both cards.
i really didnt like nvidia that much before these little baby's came out, the 460 is what saved nvidia i think. They made a good perfomer, while still be cool and quiet.

 

[XGamer95]

I don't even know why I suggested that one considering I do not think that is enough power. The Newegg PSU calculator said about 575W so I think I should go with the 650W just to be on the safe side. Also, would both of these work well with the video card?

You're looking at 300-330W max power load from a GTX 460.

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: The $200 King - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

That Antec would be perfect.

If you say so After I connect the video card to the PSU would I have to do anything else with the PSU involving the video card?

 

[jebuchanan]

other than turn it on, no

 

[Tepid]

Keep in mind that if you have a number of USB devices that you connect on a regular basis. That 550W PSU may not be enough. You won't need a 1000W but,,, Personally, I wouldn't go with anything under 650W PSU in a gaming system and actually recommend a 750W.

Why? Because if you ever decide to upgrade the video card again, the chances that it may require more power and with a number of USB devices, you will have to upgrade the PSU again as well.

Just to give an idea of what I am talking about
Take my specs below.

I was using a 550W and with USB Keyboard and Mouse and 1 permanent connected external drive, I could hook up one other drive to it. I had 3rd drive that came with 2 USB connectors, one for Power the other for Power and Data, hooking this up with just the power+data cable would cause it to click from not enough juice to it. So, throw in the 750 and I don't have those problems anymore. I only need the power+data on that drive.

Yeah, it required a little more power than the others,, but the point is, it required more power than I could provide.

 

[XGamer95]

Keep in mind that if you have a number of USB devices that you connect on a regular basis. That 550W PSU may not be enough. You won't need a 1000W but,,, Personally, I wouldn't go with anything under 650W PSU in a gaming system and actually recommend a 750W.

Why? Because if you ever decide to upgrade the video card again, the chances that it may require more power and with a number of USB devices, you will have to upgrade the PSU again as well.

Just to give an idea of what I am talking about
Take my specs below.

I was using a 550W and with USB Keyboard and Mouse and 1 permanent connected external drive, I could hook up one other drive to it. I had 3rd drive that came with 2 USB connectors, one for Power the other for Power and Data, hooking this up with just the power+data cable would cause it to click from not enough juice to it. So, throw in the 750 and I don't have those problems anymore. I only need the power+data on that drive.

Yeah, it required a little more power than the others,, but the point is, it required more power than I could provide.

That's why I was asking about the 650W (Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply). Would it have everything I need for this setup?

 

[Sanvean]

Just remember to "future pad", get the most powerful power supply you can budget, because a year or two down the road, that is one less component you will need to upgrade.