Official Windows 7 RC Available Right Now!

[Satch]

umm..
ISPs assist in cutting off file-sharing users
im confused...

Absolutely, positively incredible.

I'd love to know Night Hawk's motive behind all this. Is he in some way connected to MS? He seems to be very helpful otherwise, just reluctant to back up his claims on this one issue he is trying to press home.

 

[metoo]

There's far more then that involved. I received the following from a contast and am still waiting for a link for the following article that was brought to my attention.

Here is your link mate ISPs assist in cutting off file-sharing users

It has nothing to do with the fact that if a hash matches then the files being compared are identical.

 

[YozMan]

I dunno about most of this stuff but I did read a article by pcworld which stated that a leaked version of the RC was in fact tampered with, I have no idea which one, I'm just adding my two cents.

 

[darkassain]

I dunno about most of this stuff but I did read a article by pcworld which stated that a leaked version of the RC was in fact tampered with, I have no idea which one, I'm just adding my two cents.

Pirated copies of Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) on file-sharing sites contain malware, according to users who have downloaded the upgrade.

more than enough to call this a editorial...
reminds me of fox...
"some people say"
if you are smart enough to check timestamps and to check hashes...
you should be more than set..
i have said this before in the past...
and unlike these people Nil_Einne in the link here has the same thinking as i do...
nice to see another sane person...

 

[Night Hawk]

What people don't seem to grasp is how well these things can be tampered with by someone who would be considered a top notch programmer in the industry. They know how to falsify time stamps as well as other things giving the appearance of the genuine article by simply changing some of the coding itself not the size of any particular file.

 

[darkassain]

What people don't seem to grasp is how well these things can be tampered with by someone who would be considered a top notch programmer in the industry. They know how to falsify time stamps as well as other things giving the appearance of the genuine article by simply changing some of the coding itself not the size of any particular file.

you might also be able to grasp is what these "top" coders and crypto analysts understand...
timestamps can be falsified of course ....
the udf filesystem is well know and that is possible...
but what happens even if you change the stamps is something...


the hashes change too...


idk if you have noticed but in all my comments i have never once mentioned md5..
why?
because with enough computation power (and btw some crays should be enough...
those are beautiful systems you know...
getting to see those i was amazed)
you can create a md5 collision
but that is beside the point...
there is a way using a distrubiting brute force attack on sha-1(2^63 is a very large number...btw...)
and i believe it would have been reported by other more prominent security websites i trust saying "Sha-1 collision seen in the wild"
and so far nothing...
which means one and only thing
there has to date not one sha-1 collision at all that has been verified...
like i said the sha-1 in conficker.a was never able to be spoofed in time which tells you something...
i just wished they started used sha-2 or md6 (which the lastest conficker variants uses ) as this cannot be broken with all the computing power in world involved...

 

[Airbot]

The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.

 

[darkassain]

The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.

you are right airbot...
think this thread should be closed a sticky be made and closed that one too?...

 

[Satch]

The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.

Not entirely true, especially for those still running the leaked "official" RC. But in saying that there is nothing stopping me from downloading the version from MS and installing it!

 

[Night Hawk]

The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.

You know I readily agree with that one already! All anyone that wants it the right way has to do is simply pay a visit to... https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

Now I can simply use winver and actually see what was missing on the leaked version namely...



Still pointing at 3/1/2010 for reduced functions!

 

[Airbot]

Not entirely true, especially for those still running the leaked "official" RC. But in saying that there is nothing stopping me from downloading the version from MS and installing it!

Yeah, but if they're that worried about it, and it matters that much to whomever, then install the Official instead of continuing in running whatever leak and be done with it. If you aren't worried, it doesn't really matter then.

 

[darkassain]

You know I readily agree with that one already! All anyone that wants it the right way has to do is simply pay a visit to... https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

Now I can simply use winver and actually see what was missing on the leaked version namely...



Still pointing at 3/1/2010 for reduced functions!

please stop as this also on the released version....
the hash values are the same so lets stop with the debate...
this has spawn for pages and has not brought anything good out of it...
i do have a understanding of hashes and how hash funtions are done....
and so i can safely say that it will take longer than a "few days" that this was released so you cant forged hashes with so little time even with all the computing power in the world wont do...

 

[Night Hawk]

The one thing I found on the RC here and not seen on the leaked version is the 6/1/2010 expiration date! The winver still shows 3/1 while the SIW didn't see the 6/1 date on that while seen on the public release.



You also have to wonder now whatelse will be found different like certain services not being enabled until the public release was posted. But that's still going to be upto the person running it if they want the full working version at this point.

 

[darkassain]

The one thing I found on the RC here and not seen on the leaked version is the 6/1/2010 expiration date! The winver still shows 3/1 while the SIW didn't see the 6/1 date on that while seen on the public release.



You also have to wonder now whatelse will be found different like certain services not being enabled until the public release was posted. But that's still going to be upto the person running it if they want the full working version at this point.

do you really want to keep going?...

there...
you can even see this is the leaked build by looking at the install date....

 

[kpo6969]

Night Hawk
1. You downloaded a torrent that wasn't right, and have been continuing trying to justify god knows what, and now it's time to call B.S.

The one thing I found on the RC here and not seen on the leaked version is the 6/1/2010 expiration date! The winver still shows 3/1 while the SIW didn't see the 6/1 date on that while seen on the public release.

Complete total B.S.

 

[Airbot]

NightHawk,

there's no difference, as I am running the leaked right now. It's the same as the official. Perhaps maybe it's just your version of SIW, cuz mine says Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and yours says Windows Vista at the top there. Anywho, the leaked einsteinjr build and the official are the same.

 

[darkassain]

NightHawk,

there's no difference, as I am running the leaked right now. It's the same as the official. Perhaps maybe it's just your version of SIW, cuz mine says Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and yours says Windows Vista at the top there. Anywho, the leaked einsteinjr build and the official are the same.


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i just noticed i installed the same day you did...
not year but day..
and wow how did it leak in 1969?....
must have had a time machine...

 

[Night Hawk]

i just noticed i installed the same day you did...
not year but day..
and wow how did it leak in 1969?....
must have had a time machine...

Where did you find that one?!

 

[Airbot]

i just noticed i installed the same day you did...
not year but day..
and wow how did it leak in 1969?....
must have had a time machine...

I told you guys I time traveled before.
http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/6459-new-win-7-build.html

 

[Night Hawk]

I told you guys I time traveled before.
http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/6459-new-win-7-build.html

Now we're getting somewhere!(wherever that is? ) :roflmao: