Microsoft tweaks antipiracy tech for Windows 7

is there a limit in the number of times a user can activate his copy of se7en?
Unless MS removes the ability to -Rearm, you should be able to
1. activate with Key for approx 1 yr.
2. just prior to the expire date, remove the Key. DO NOT REBOOT
3. -Rearm and obtain additional 30 days - normally you can do this 3 times. That gives you an additional 90 days.
4. You then need to reset the -rearm code to 0 that gives you another 30 days. total now of 120 days.
5. Just prior to the end of the last rearm. (usually MS will deactivate by now).
6. If not deactivated. reset by changing to a NEW KEY.
how much time is hard to tell, until it happens... (Vista received an extra 90 days.) Win7 will probably go into 2hrs shutdown mode.

7. Obtain a good OEM-Retail Key... most Retail Keys are good for - from 1000 to 10000 activations. and that equals unlimited days of use.
 
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Maybe MS could give beta testers (and i mean all of us that have downloaded the Beta and RC, not just the "official" testers) a discount. Seeing as we are already putting time and effort in to helping make it a better OS.
Just a thought.

Dave.

Everyone here would most definetly love that, but the chances of that are about the same as everyone here winning the lottery tomorrow.

I'm interested to see how HP (my computers manufactuar) will handle it, as I remember them saying to me once that any computer thats within warranty will get a free copy of Windows 7 relating to the copy of Vista you had (Home Premium Vista users get Home Premium 7, etc).

Doubt they will do that though, not much profit in that. :P
 

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I think they should lower the price a little which might help stop piracy.
The only reason I upgraded to Vista was because I got an OEM home premium from Amazon for £63 in a sale! No way I was going to or able pay the full retail price and no way would I use a pirated copy.
If they priced the OS at a slightly more affordable level they might see more people take it up and would also help cut down on some piracy.
 

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Update Time :2009-4-20 Source: Sina Technology Windows 7 prices will be 399 yuan and 499 yuan. This converts to 49.96 USD 62.48 USD.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 新浪科技讯4月20日凌晨消息,微软大中华区消费与在线事业部总经理韦青向新浪科技透露,微软下一代操作系统Windows 7的价格预计将与Vista持平。 Sina Tech the early morning of April 20th message, Microsoft Greater China, consumer and online division, general manager of Sina science and technology to韦青revealed that Microsoft's next-generation operating system, Windows 7 and the price is expected to be Vista unchanged.

这是微软方面首次披露有关Windows 7的价格信息。 This is the first time Microsoft to disclose information about Windows 7 pricing information. 此前,微软这款备受关注的操作系统价格信息一直非常保密。 Prior to this, Microsoft's new operating system have attracted much attention has been very confidential price information.

“Windows 7的价格原则上是与Vista同步。微软过去一直努力给中国用户提供最好的价值,可以说Vista在中国市场的499元价格已经是非常非常的低。Windows 7的定价细节,我们会在合适的时间向外界披露。”韦青这样告诉新浪科技。 "Windows 7, in principle, the price of sync with Vista. Microsoft has been working the past to the Chinese users with the best value, it can be said of Vista in the Chinese market price of 499 yuan is already a very, very low. Windows 7 pricing details, we will at the right time to disclose to the outside world. "韦青told Sina science and technology.

为了在中国市场抢占份额,微软曾多次针对中国市场调低操作系统的价格。 In order to seize the Chinese market share, Microsoft has lowered the operating system for the Chinese market prices. 在2007年8月,微软曾宣布大幅下调Vista价格,最低版本售价499元。 In August 2007, Microsoft announced that Vista reduced price, the minimum price of 499 yuan version. 去年底,微软针对XP系统进行调价,最低版本售价降至399元。 The end of last year, Microsoft for the XP system price, the minimum version of the price to 399 yuan.

微软Windows业务高级副总裁Bill Veghte告诉新浪科技,尽管目前Windows 7的上市日期未公布,但预计会第一时间在中国同步上市,因为中国市场对微软非常重要。 Microsoft's Windows business, Senior Vice President Bill Veghte told Sina science and technology, despite the current listing date of Windows 7 is not released, but is expected to be the first simultaneous listing in China because the Chinese market is very important to Microsoft. 而此前,Vista在中国与全球市场同步上市。 Previously, Vista in China simultaneously with the listing of the global market.

据Bill Veghte透露,Vista全球用户已达2亿,达到当初预期。 According to Bill Veghte said, Vista has reached 200 million users worldwide, is expected to reach first. 由于Windows7是基于Vista架构开发的,能实现从Vista的平滑过渡,同时它将解决Vista时代的软件兼容问题。 Windows7 is due to Vista-based development framework, to achieve smooth transition from Vista, at the same time it will address the Vista era of software compatibility issues.

美国知名科技博客日前撰文称,从最新公布的调查报告显示,尽管Windows 7饱受非议,但该软件有可能成为微软史上最成功的商业操作系统。 Well-known U.S. technology blog a few days ago, said the author, from the latest survey, although Windows 7 suffered reproach, but the software has the potential to become the most successful in the history of Microsoft's operating system business. 另据外电消息称,Windows 7 RC版(发布候选版)公开发布时间为5月5日,其正式版有望在今年内上市。 According to foreign sources, Windows 7 RC version (release candidate) publicly available time for the May 5, the final version is expected this year listed. (全智) (Full Chilean)
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Sina Technology Windows 7 prices will be 399 yuan and 499 yuan. This converts to 49.96 USD 62.48 USD.
 
Something tells me they'll have it cracked in a day or so.

Really MS. Stop trying to charge for Operating systems.

Windows CRAcKtivation Technologies



Are they not allowed to make money for their work? I dont get it... :sarc:
 

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Yes, they are allowed to make money from there work.
My question is this, why can China plus other countrys buy for $70.00 and they charge US $300.00.
all amounts are actually estimates. I did get 2 copies of Vista Home Premium Upgrades for $50.00 ea ... PS: I am/was a Beta Tester for Vista.
My personal copy of Vista Ultimate is/was (FREE) and currently using SP2.
Windows 7 v.7106
 

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Re: Vista being pirated only half as much as XP...

It's because few people want Vista... it is like the proverbial hated, ******* stepchild.

Just my opinion.
 

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You have near 10 months free trial use with this OS (meaning RC 7100, not any of the other leaks that you've downloaded and use) ... If you are able to send "feedback" on this build, then do so!

Contribute your valid observations and problems with this RC Beta to the final OS build.
Cost will be what it will be. We can't control that end of the spectrum. We can always ask, tho' :p
 

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Are they not allowed to make money for their work? I dont get it... :sarc:
They've spent decades profiting from the theft of other OS's features and are now putting those profits into paying their (under-paid over-worked) programmers to work on more second hand ideas.

'They' don't deserve a cent.
 

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You have near 10 months free trial use with this OS (meaning RC 7100, not any of the other leaks that you've downloaded and use) ... If you are able to send "feedback" on this build, then do so!

Contribute your valid observations and problems with this RC Beta to the final OS build.
Cost will be what it will be. We can't control that end of the spectrum. We can always ask, tho' :p

I'm glad to see this information was brought up when people state that some leak checks out due to hash numbers. What many don't realize is that the MD5 check sum numbers are still vulnerable where MS is taking that into consideration for 7.

"Vulnerability

Because MD5 makes only one pass over the data, if two prefixes with the same hash can be constructed, a common suffix can be added to both to make the collision more reasonable.
Because the current collision-finding techniques allow the preceding hash state to be specified arbitrarily, a collision can be found for any desired prefix; that is, for any given string of characters X, two colliding files can be determined which both begin with X.
All that is required to generate two colliding files is a template file, with a 128-byte block of data aligned on a 64-byte boundary, that can be changed freely by the collision-finding algorithm.
Recently, a number of projects have created MD5 "rainbow tables" which are easily accessible online, and can be used to reverse many MD5 hashes into strings that collide with the original input, usually for the purposes of password cracking. However, if passwords are combined with a salt before the MD5 digest is generated, rainbow tables become much less useful.
The use of MD5 in some websites' URLs means that Google can also sometimes function as a limited tool for reverse lookup of MD5 hashes.[11] This technique is rendered ineffective by the use of a salt.
On December 30, 2008, a group of researchers announced at the 25th Chaos Communication Congress how they had used MD5 collisions to create an intermediate certificate authority certificate which appeared to be legitimate when checked via its MD5 hash.[5]. The researchers used a cluster of Sony Playstation 3s at the EPFL in Lausanne, Switzerland.[12] to change a normal SSL certificate issued by RapidSSL into a working CA certificate for that issuer, which could then be used to create other certificates that would appear to be legitimate and issued by RapidSSL. VeriSign, the issuers of RapidSSL certificates, said they stopped issuing new certificates using MD5 as their checksum algorithm for RapidSSL once the vulnerability was announced.[13]" MD5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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They've spent decades profiting from the theft of other OS's features and are now putting those profits into paying their (under-paid over-worked) programmers to work on more second hand ideas.

'They' don't deserve a cent.

Wow. How uninformed. You might want to check your facts.:confused:
 

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I'm glad to see this information was brought up when people state that some leak checks out due to hash numbers. What many don't realize is that the MD5 check sum numbers are still vulnerable where MS is taking that into consideration for 7.

"Vulnerability

Because MD5 makes only one pass over the data, if two prefixes with the same hash can be constructed, a common suffix can be added to both to make the collision more reasonable.
Because the current collision-finding techniques allow the preceding hash state to be specified arbitrarily, a collision can be found for any desired prefix; that is, for any given string of characters X, two colliding files can be determined which both begin with X.
All that is required to generate two colliding files is a template file, with a 128-byte block of data aligned on a 64-byte boundary, that can be changed freely by the collision-finding algorithm.
Recently, a number of projects have created MD5 "rainbow tables" which are easily accessible online, and can be used to reverse many MD5 hashes into strings that collide with the original input, usually for the purposes of password cracking. However, if passwords are combined with a salt before the MD5 digest is generated, rainbow tables become much less useful.
The use of MD5 in some websites' URLs means that Google can also sometimes function as a limited tool for reverse lookup of MD5 hashes.[11] This technique is rendered ineffective by the use of a salt.
On December 30, 2008, a group of researchers announced at the 25th Chaos Communication Congress how they had used MD5 collisions to create an intermediate certificate authority certificate which appeared to be legitimate when checked via its MD5 hash.[5]. The researchers used a cluster of Sony Playstation 3s at the EPFL in Lausanne, Switzerland.[12] to change a normal SSL certificate issued by RapidSSL into a working CA certificate for that issuer, which could then be used to create other certificates that would appear to be legitimate and issued by RapidSSL. VeriSign, the issuers of RapidSSL certificates, said they stopped issuing new certificates using MD5 as their checksum algorithm for RapidSSL once the vulnerability was announced.[13]" MD5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

First of all, understand that a CA cert is only a few kilobytes. Forcing a collision with 3 GB of data is a whole other matter. On top of that, not only did we have MD5 hashes to compare, but we also had the far superior SHA-1. Again creating a collision with 3 GB of data using SHA-1 is impossible using today's technology. It would take all of the silicone in the Solar system to build enough processors to be able to achieve that. Add to that that we have 2 hashing algorithms and creating a file of that size that creates a collision in BOTH algorithms is impossible.

PhreePhly
 

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First of all, understand that a CA cert is only a few kilobytes. Forcing a collision with 3 GB of data is a whole other matter. On top of that, not only did we have MD5 hashes to compare, but we also had the far superior SHA-1. Again creating a collision with 3 GB of data using SHA-1 is impossible using today's technology. It would take all of the silicone in the Solar system to build enough processors to be able to achieve that. Add to that that we have 2 hashing algorithms and creating a file of that size that creates a collision in BOTH algorithms is impossible.

PhreePhly

The thing there is that the people able to do this are far from amateurs! The recent leaks shown as fakes only displayed "amateur hour" for those since you saw Chinese and Russian builds mixed up with English components. As for SHA1 that's not completely invulnerable either!

25C3: Hackers completely break SSL using 200 PS3s - Hack a Day
 

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The thing there is that the people able to do this are far from amateurs! The recent leaks shown as fakes only displayed "amateur hour" for those since you saw Chinese and Russian builds mixed up with English components. As for SHA1 that's not completely invulnerable either!

25C3: Hackers completely break SSL using 200 PS3s - Hack a Day

These attacks are on certs of very small size compared to the iso. The increased size makes a collision that much harder. The flaw in SHA-1 has yet to be verified and even with the flaw as shown, we would need 2^63 operations versus the ideal 2^80. We're still talking about a huge effort, requiring a government entity at current technology. It would also require far more time than the week or two we saw with the iso release.

However, we need to move the the SHA-2 algorithm.

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fyi 7106 is an older build than the RC
Yes, it is by some reason. but how many people are having major problems with v.7106.... None of the people I know that are using it....
How many people are having problems with 7100, seems the average is 95% have major problems. Personally I think MS threw 7100 together from a mix of others, and figured WTH. the average JOE has no idea what we did.
chek the setup time-date and compare to the iso time-date.
Woops MS did it again.
 
Strange, Snuffy ... I've had no problems with either 7000 or 7100. I count myself among the 75% or more who that haven't any problems.

What is this build 7106? :confused:
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 914v
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
PSU
Rocketfish 700 W
Case
G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avira Internet Security
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
ATI HDMI Audio
I agree with Fliplip, but chances are MS problably wont be so lenient, i mean, look what happened to the MS suite, used to be free, now its GOONE

Enzo.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

W7 RTM Ultimate x64Intel Q8400 @ 2.66GHZ4GB DDR2-800Gainward GTS 450 GLH 1GB Edition
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
W7 RTM Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q8400 @ 2.66GHZ
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EG45M-UD2H
Memory
4GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
Gainward GTS 450 GLH 1GB Edition
Sound Card
Integrated 8 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC 23.6 Inch Widescreen LCD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Seagate 500GB Internal
Western Digital 1TB Internal

Hitachi 1TB External
PSU
Apevia Java Power 500W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 Black
Cooling
Stock Intel CPU Fan
Keyboard
HP SK-2960 Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M350 Wireless Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
1.5MB
Well apparently MS wants people to treat the RC as the final product while the RCs are easily activated? And what about just when will 7 actually be out?

"Time for Microsoft to fess up on Windows 7 date" Time for Microsoft to fess up on Windows 7 date | Beyond Binary - CNET News is actually something for an entirely different thread while wondering just what will be seen as far as limitations on 7 once out.

With even the fakes seeing activation you have to wonder how stiff that will be if you just happen to see any change of hardwares on custom builds as well as premade systems?

The thing MS is looking at is not how many times you have to reinstall Windows like a hard drive upgrade or video card replaced but the distribution angle generally referred to as "casual copying". That's one area where the focus would be with a newer method of detecting bogus duplicates and insuring those can't be activated.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Bo...AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd r...Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper ...MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 o...
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • At a glance

    W7 Pro x64/W11 ProAMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gbMSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
Strange, Snuffy ... I've had no problems with either 7000 or 7100. I count myself among the 75% or more who that haven't any problems.

What is this build 7106? :confused:

Windows 7 7106 Ultimate :
ISO name: 7106.0.090408-1623_x86fre_client_en-us_Retail_GRC1CULFRER_EN_DVD
With expire date of 3-01-2010
 

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