installing IDE in new tower.

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  1. Posts : 303
    Win7 Win 10, Win 8.1
       #11

    Ok there is no PATA. Sorry that was the wrong image. Here is the correct image for that board. You can install another SATA HD.



    Motherboard Specifications, H-RS880-uATX (Aloe) HP Pavilion p6347c Desktop PC - HP technical support (Ireland - English)
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  2. Posts : 119
    W7
    Thread Starter
       #12

    merkat106 said:
    Some newer computers do not have PATA connections on their motherboards. This HP has a Foxconn mobo which does not.
    Motherboard Specifications, H-RS880-uATX (Aloe) HP Pavilion p6347c Desktop PC - HP technical support (Ireland - English)
    Thanks, Merkat. This is what I suspected. What upsets me is that the HP instructions are specific to my model computer (Adding or Replacing a Hard Drive HP Pavilion p6347c Desktop PC - HP technical support (Ireland - English)), but are wrong.
    What I think your options are: getting an ide drive enclosure or the drive or getting an IDE to SATA Adapter which should be no more than $20.
    Amazon.com: Vantec CB-IS100 IDE to SATA Converter (Black): Electronics
    I actually have both of these items. I have an exterior enclosure that I was using for backups, and I recently bought a PATA to SATA adapter. But when I tried to connect with the adapter I wasn't sure what goes where, then I looked at the HP instructions and thought "oh, they say I can connect without adapter!" NOT!
    OK, so we are back to finding where to plug in the adapter cables. Two came with it - a wide red one (seems to be the data?) and one with a thin red and a thin black wire (power?). I think I found a power connection, because a light came on in the connector card, but I don't know where to connect the wider red band.
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  3. Posts : 474
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
       #13

    With SATA, one cable goes into the mobo (smaller connector), the other connects to the psu (larger connector). I am not sure what connetors your hp psu has, so I don't know if you need ide/sata power connector adapter (not sure that what thats called).
    installing IDE in new tower.-idepower_to_satapower.jpg
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  4. Posts : 9,606
    Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
       #14

    IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD


    Found this gadget on eBay


    IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD

    installing IDE in new tower.-sata_to_ide.jpg

    IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Adapter2-In-1 Bidirectional Bilateral. SATA-to-Ultra ATA-133 converter boards provide converter solutions for Parallel Ultra ATA Devices. 40 pin ATA port that can interface to parallel Ultra ATA (IDE) devices.


    Description:
    • Bi-Directional SATA to IDE Adapter for serial and parllel ATA. This adapter Does-it-All
    • IDE to SATA Adapter or SATA to IDE Converter.
    • This is a bi-directional converter for serial and parallel ATA translation.
    • It includes the serial ATA PHY, Link, Transport, and Parallel ATA(Application Layer) controller.
    • The serial ATA Physical, link and transport layers are complaint to Serial ATA 1.0.
    • This IDE to SATA Converter supports a 1.5Ghz data rate.
    Features:
    • With LED indicated power
    • Easy to install and no driver is required
    • Serial ATA 1.0 Specification Compliant
    • Automatic Serial ATA 1.5 Gbps Speed Negotiation
    • ATA/ATAPI PIO mode 0 to 4
    • ATA/ATAPI PI Ultra DMA of transfer rate 16.7, 25, 33, 48, 66, 100, 133, and 150 Mbps
    • ATA/ATAPIPI LAB48 addressing mode associated with 2-byte sector count
    • Support Serial ATA hot-plug
    • Ultra Low power consumption
    • Work for both AC and DC couple between the transmitter and receiver
    • Provide specified OOB signal detection and transmission
    • Support spread spectrum clocking to reduce EMI
    • Support partial/slumber power management
    • Provide adjustable TX signal amplitude and pre-emphasis level
    • Slave support
    • Weight: 78.2g
    Package contents:
    • 1 x IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Bilateral Converter Adapter
    • 1 x 4 pin power cable
    • 1 x SATA cable
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  5. Posts : 119
    W7
    Thread Starter
       #15

    DocBrown said:
    Found this gadget on eBay


    IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD

    installing IDE in new tower.-sata_to_ide.jpg

    IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Adapter2-In-1 Bidirectional Bilateral. SATA-to-Ultra ATA-133 converter boards provide converter solutions for Parallel Ultra ATA Devices. 40 pin ATA port that can interface to parallel Ultra ATA (IDE) devices.


    Description:
    • Bi-Directional SATA to IDE Adapter for serial and parllel ATA. This adapter Does-it-All
    • IDE to SATA Adapter or SATA to IDE Converter.
    • This is a bi-directional converter for serial and parallel ATA translation.
    • It includes the serial ATA PHY, Link, Transport, and Parallel ATA(Application Layer) controller.
    • The serial ATA Physical, link and transport layers are complaint to Serial ATA 1.0.
    • This IDE to SATA Converter supports a 1.5Ghz data rate.

    Features:
    • With LED indicated power
    • Easy to install and no driver is required
    • Serial ATA 1.0 Specification Compliant
    • Automatic Serial ATA 1.5 Gbps Speed Negotiation
    • ATA/ATAPI PIO mode 0 to 4
    • ATA/ATAPI PI Ultra DMA of transfer rate 16.7, 25, 33, 48, 66, 100, 133, and 150 Mbps
    • ATA/ATAPIPI LAB48 addressing mode associated with 2-byte sector count
    • Support Serial ATA hot-plug
    • Ultra Low power consumption
    • Work for both AC and DC couple between the transmitter and receiver
    • Provide specified OOB signal detection and transmission
    • Support spread spectrum clocking to reduce EMI
    • Support partial/slumber power management
    • Provide adjustable TX signal amplitude and pre-emphasis level
    • Slave support
    • Weight: 78.2g

    Package contents:
    • 1 x IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Bilateral Converter Adapter
    • 1 x 4 pin power cable
    • 1 x SATA cable
    That is the gadget I just bought. But where does the red cable plug in on the mobo?
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  6. Posts : 6,879
    Win 7 Ultimate x64
       #16

    You plug the red SATA cable into one of the unused SATA ports (from that mobo picture; blue, light blue, white, red, orange, black).
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  7. Posts : 9,606
    Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
       #17

    One end of the red cable (Sata Data Cable) plugs into adapter & the other end into one of the empty sata ports on the motherboard.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails installing IDE in new tower.-sata_ports.jpg  
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  8. Posts : 119
    W7
    Thread Starter
       #18

    OMG, that is where I put it (I picked the red one). Stroke of luck, and the only place it would fit.
    When I tried to reboot and check whether the old IDE drive shows up in Windows Explorer, it wouldn't boot into my W7 drive, but was scanning drives....., then demanded that I load proper boot media and reboot!
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  9. Posts : 9,606
    Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
       #19

    Are the Sata ports on the MB marked as to SATA0, SATA1, SATA2, SATA3, etc ?

    Your main sata HD should be in SATA port 0 (zero) to boot first !
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  10. Posts : 119
    W7
    Thread Starter
       #20

    DocBrown said:
    Are the Sata ports on the MB marked as to SATA0, SATA1, SATA2, SATA3, etc ?

    Your main sata HD should be in SATA port 0 (zero) to boot first !
    It is hard to see in there, but I have not changed the factory connections. It looks like the dark blue is marked SATA 1 and goes to the main drive, the white one is marked SATA 2 and goes to the DVD, and light blue is marked SATA 3, which may be where I need to go with my line?
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