New CPU, what would you suggest.

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  1. Posts : 31,250
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
       #11

    Just to add my own "fly in the ointment" I would personally like to agree with both of the larger posts above.

    When upgrading a system I would suggest that the motherboard and the processor should be matched for the best possible upgrade in all cases other that the replacement of a failed component. I would even go as far as to include memory in this.

    The motherboard and processor market both move so quickly that it is never good policy to not change both at the same time

    It may mean that you have to put off the actual upgrade until sufficient funds are available but will hopefully prevent the next upgrade cycle from being needed quite as soon.

    other more peripheral items may be re-used but I do believe that the Core components, ( pun unintentional :) ), should be treated as a single item when considering an upgrade.
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  2. Posts : 795
    windows 7 RTM x64
       #12

    H2SO4 said:
    - While the performance difference between any two motherboards is at best difficult to quantify, having double the number of processor cores is an ENORMOUS advantage. Everything else being equal, a quad-core in a $100 mobo will easily outperform a dual-core plugged into $300-worth of motherboard electronics, in all but the most contrived of benchmarks.
    The issue with that statement, is that not many apps will use all 4 cores, so unless you are running many apps at the same time, you will have cores sitting idle.

    ADVISE: I would go with a name brand mobo, (I prefer ASUS) look at the features the board gives you (ie. the amount of ram it supports, the speed of the ram, if it has onboard RAID, 1 or 2 onboard NIC's etc.) The most I have ever spent on a mobo is $200, and that was because it supported 4 x16 PCI-e cards.
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  3. Posts : 1,377
    Win7x64
       #13

    ccatlett1984 said:
    H2SO4 said:
    - While the performance difference between any two motherboards is at best difficult to quantify, having double the number of processor cores is an ENORMOUS advantage. Everything else being equal, a quad-core in a $100 mobo will easily outperform a dual-core plugged into $300-worth of motherboard electronics, in all but the most contrived of benchmarks.
    The issue with that statement, is that not many apps will use all 4 cores, so unless you are running many apps at the same time, you will have cores sitting idle.
    The unit of scheduling is the thread, not the process ("app"). In other words, core1 can work on a thread from appX while core2 works on a thread from appY, and so on. In fact, the OS doesn't care whether a thread belongs to a particular process - it has entirely different criteria for deciding which thread to schedule next.

    Also remember that at any time the OS itself will spawn anywhere from tens to hundreds of threads, most of which compete with apps for processor time (some always "win" because the odds are stacked in their favour). Sure, most threads are inactive most of the time, but when there's hundreds of 'em that's a fair amount of contention.

    For the gamer types, the act of actually having to park a game's thread aside in order to do OS work is a horribly nasty prospect. A dual-core machine will need to do that more often than a quad-core. The latter has twice as many options when it comes to maybe letting the game thread continue running instead of interrupting it.

    Newer software is a lot more multi-threaded too, and getting more so all the time. Games developers are going in that direction, and "serious" business apps like Photoshop and AutoCAD are already gauging how many threads to spin off during heavy number crunching based on the detected number of processors (or cores).

    More cores for the win :)
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  4. Posts : 2,036
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #14

    Daran said:
    Hi all

    I hope that admin will allow this to run for a while. I love Windows 7 and have just sold my motherboard, CPU and RAM last night, so today is upgrade day. The situation is that I would like some advice on what to upgrade to. I currently have an extra Intel D965LT motherboard at home but I am unsure if I should use it and go for a higher end Core 2 Duo CPU or if I should buy an entry level Core 2 Duo, but then buy a motherboard that supports Quad Processors. Also, I am unsure how the Intel board will support W7 as looking at their Bios updates it is not showing anything for Vista or W7.

    All suggestions will be noted.

    Thanks All
    Don't overlook the i5 750. You can get a $100 motherboard and I think beat any 775 socket CPU for performance. This would be something to think about.
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  5. Posts : 6,879
    Win 7 Ultimate x64
       #15

    Seeing as it was never mentioned and no one asked, what kind of budget do you have?
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  6. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
       #16

    Barman58 said:
    Just to add my own "fly in the ointment" I would personally like to agree with both of the larger posts above.

    When upgrading a system I would suggest that the motherboard and the processor should be matched for the best possible upgrade in all cases other that the replacement of a failed component. I would even go as far as to include memory in this.

    The motherboard and processor market both move so quickly that it is never good policy to not change both at the same time

    It may mean that you have to put off the actual upgrade until sufficient funds are available but will hopefully prevent the next upgrade cycle from being needed quite as soon.

    other more peripheral items may be re-used but I do believe that the Core components, ( pun unintentional :) ), should be treated as a single item when considering an upgrade.
    +1
    My thoughts exactly. This will enable the best function between all of the most important pieces of your computer.

    I also tend to buy the middle priced stuff. This means it is not obsolete for a while, but I stay away from the exponential price curve of 'the best' hardware.

    ~Lordbob
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  7. Posts : 26
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Hi all

    Thanks for all the info, I must say that this forum rocks when it comes to replies and stuff.

    Due to budget and time and stock constraints, I bought the following:

    Motherboard: Intel Raisen City
    CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q9400
    Memory: 2 Gig DDR 800

    Memory will increase to 4 Gig next month and matbe a better Motherboard in December.
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  8. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
       #18

    Pretty good choices...

    One thing I see though: Your RAM, is that DDR2?

    ~Lordbob
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  9. Posts : 26
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #19

    yes... to be honest, I did not even check if the board supports DDR 3
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  10. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
       #20

    I like DDR2 better, as it is about the same, but reasonably priced.

    Just wanted to make sure that it was not DDR.

    ~Lordbob
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