Solved SDD Showing Fuller All of a Sudden

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 16, 2015

My 128GB Samsung 840 Pro C: drive has been taking up about 65GB of 119GB formatted space (55GB free space) for the longest time. Recently, it started showing only 38.3GB of free space. When I checked properties in Disk Management, it shows used space is 80.3GB and the free space is 38.7GB.

I downloaded WinDirStat and got the following results:

It's saying the used space of C: is only 69.5GB which is better but that still seems a bit high, although one heck of a lot better than 80.3GB.

Does anyone have any idea what is causing my C:drive to read so high all of a sudden? Btw, the 24.8GB for <Files> is normal. 24GB is the hyberfil.sys file (I have 32GB RAM) and I need Hibernation enabled for my UPS to use to shut down my computer without losing any work in the event of a power outage. The remaining 0.8GB is the pagefile.sys.

ignatzatsonic · Mar 17, 2015

TreeSize Free - Quickly Scan Directory Sizes and Find Space Hogs

Try Tree Size Free and see if it gives you a different total or a more useful display.

The typical culprit is space devoted to System Restore, whether you changed it or not. I think I heard that certain anti-virus packages have a way of interfering?

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Run the above command and see if the results are outlandish.

DavidE · Mar 17, 2015

In WinDirStat options check Show Unknown and see if space is used there.
Check how much space is used for System Restore.
Some people have an issue where Avast increases System Restore usage.

Try WizTree, it may help show where space is being used and they have a portable version
Antibody Software - WizTree finds the files and folders using the most disk space on your hard drive

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

ignatzatsonic said:
TreeSize Free - Quickly Scan Directory Sizes and Find Space Hogs

Try Tree Size Free and see if it gives you a different total or a more useful display.

The typical culprit is space devoted to System Restore, whether you changed it or not. I think I heard that certain anti-virus packages have a way of interfering?

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Run the above command and see if the results are outlandish.

Nothing significantly different with Tree Size Free.

How do I run the command?

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

DavidE said:
In WinDirStat options check Show Unknown and see if space is used there.
Check how much space is used for System Restore.
Some people have an issue where Avast increases System Restore usage.

Try WizTree, it may help show where space is being used and they have a portable version
Antibody Software - WizTree finds the files and folders using the most disk space on your hard drive

Ok, I checked Show Unknown in WinDirStat and got this:

<Unknown> is the most likely the culprit but what is it and what do I do about it?

ignatzatsonic · Mar 17, 2015

Lady Fitzgerald said:
How do I run the command?

At a prompt. Probably has to be run as administrator.

Start button/accessories/command prompt. Right click it to run as admin and paste or type that command in there.

Should show you amount used and amount allocated to System Restore.

You may have to delete some or all of them and see if Avast is acting up?

Tree Size normally shows the system restore points up high in the display when sorted by size. Long strings of alpha-numeric characters under "System Volume Information" as I recall.

whs · Mar 17, 2015

The unknown may be the shadowstorage. Run the vssadmin list shadowstorage in an elevated command prompt and look for the Allocated.

LOL, Ignatz was faster.

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

ignatzatsonic said:
Lady Fitzgerald said:

How do I run the command?

Click to expand...

At a prompt. Probably has to be run as administrator.

Start button/accessories/command prompt. Right click it to run as admin and paste or type that command in there.

Should show you amount used and amount allocated to System Restore.

You may have to delete some or all of them and see if Avast is acting up?

Tree Size normally shows the system restore points up high in the display when sorted by size. Long strings of alpha-numeric characters under "System Volume Information" as I recall.

Ok, here is what I got:

If that is for system Restore, then it is interesting because I shut it off a long time ago.

ignatzatsonic · Mar 17, 2015

Yep; using about 11 GB of about 11.5 allocated.

Pound on Avast. Maybe their forums or maybe Google.

It's a known issue and would be my first suspect.

DavidE · Mar 17, 2015

Avast might have turned it on.
Check if it's still turned off.

From what i read on the Avast forum, they say the bug should be fixed in June / July ...

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

ignatzatsonic said:
Yep; using about 11 GB of about 11.5 allocated.

Pound on Avast. Maybe their forums or maybe Google.

It's a known issue and would be my first suspect.

Ok, what do I ask about on their forums?

Is there any way to clear that space out?

ignatzatsonic · Mar 17, 2015

Lady Fitzgerald said:
ignatzatsonic said:

Yep; using about 11 GB of about 11.5 allocated.

Pound on Avast. Maybe their forums or maybe Google.

It's a known issue and would be my first suspect.

Click to expand...

Ok, what do I ask about on their forums?

Is there any way to clear that space out?

You can go to System Restore config area and delete all restore points. Not sure that will help as the bug in Avast may just continue making new restore points, regardless of your efforts.

I don't use Avast and haven't looked at their forums, but David says it's discussed there.

I heard about it on this forum somewhere in the last month.

Looks like Avast has a lightning campaign underway to fix the bug by June or July, per David.

In the meantime, you can:

A: enjoy

B: use another AV

C: rend your flesh in frustration

DavidE · Mar 17, 2015

If you have Avast NG installed, uninstall it.
Or, wait till they fix the issue.

Here is a recent SF thread about this, and it has a link to a recent Avast forum thread.
http://www.sevenforums.com/backup-r...hanging-system-restore-allocation-amount.html

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

DavidE said:
Avast might have turned it on.
Check if it's still turned off.

From what i read on the Avast forum, they say the bug should be fixed in June / July ...

It's still turned off.

DavidE · Mar 17, 2015

That's weird, i haven't heard of that before.
Turned off and still using SR space :eek:

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

ignatzatsonic said:
Lady Fitzgerald said:

ignatzatsonic said:

Yep; using about 11 GB of about 11.5 allocated.

Pound on Avast. Maybe their forums or maybe Google.

It's a known issue and would be my first suspect.

Click to expand...

Ok, what do I ask about on their forums?

Is there any way to clear that space out?

Click to expand...

You can go to System Restore config area and delete all restore points. Not sure that will help as the bug in Avast may just continue making new restore points, regardless of your efforts.

I don't use Avast and haven't looked at their forums, but David says it's discussed there.

I heard about it on this forum somewhere in the last month.

Looks like Avast has a lightning campaign underway to fix the bug by June or July, per David.

In the meantime, you can:

A: enjoy

B: use another AV

C: rend your flesh in frustration

A. Seriously? :shock:

B. A bit of a pain to uninstall the present one.

I cleaned out the restore points and reran the command prompt. Nada! So,

C. Starting to look good.

whs · Mar 17, 2015

LF, you have to reduce your Maximum. This is the command:

vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=3%

3% is my suggestion, you can, of course choose any value in % or GB. A restore point is appr. 500MB to 1GB in size.

Lady Fitzgerald · Mar 17, 2015

whs said:
LF, you have to reduce your Maximum. This is the command:

vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=3%

3% is my suggestion, you can, of course choose any value in % or GB. A restore point is appr. 500MB to 1GB in size.

Tried reducing it down to 0%; didn't work. Tried reducing it down to 1GB; didn't work. :cry:

I read the post on the Avast forums that DavidE indirectly linked, didn't understand a word of it (partially because apparently both paid and free versions were being discussed at the same time), so I posted with my version name and number, asking what to due with this FUBAR.

whs · Mar 17, 2015

0% does not work but 1GB should work. Use the proposed 3%. You want some restore points after all.

DavidE · Mar 17, 2015

Can you turn SR on in the GUI and adjust the slider to the minimum ?
Then turn it back off if you don't want it on.

I don't use Restore Points, I use Backup Images.

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