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Windows 7: Windows XP installation on a Dell laptop (confusing info )

25 Dec 2017   #1
LearningNinja

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 
Windows XP installation on a Dell laptop (confusing info )

I have been trying to install Win XP Media Center Edition 2005 a Dell XPS M1710 .... WHY ? because the laptop will only run on the version of XP that it was originally shipped with and no other version of XP will work ! Dell has stopped all support for Win XP and because this laptop uses XP only there is no support for the machine and all information that was on the Dell web site is now unavailable !! The amount of confusing information that I have come across has made it so unclear on how to download and burn a bootable IOS DVD and then do a fresh clean install of Win XP !!! These are some of the issues that I am not clear on .... Do I have to extract the downloaded IOS file from Z-Zip before i try to burn a bootable IOS disk As I am going to use CDBurnerXP to burn the boot IOS disk or will CDBurnerXP extract and unzip the files by itself ??? I will be using Win 7 to burn the Win XP IOS boot disk in that case to I have to download two programs first ? and they are NET.Framework 2.0 and IMAPlv 2.0 XP X86 before I can make the boot disk and install it???Or does that only applies if I am using Win XP to burn the IOS boot disk ? If I have to install both of the programs because I am using Win 7 where and how do I install them ? Do I make a folder with the downloaded WinXP IOS file and the NET Framework and IMAPlv programs and select them all to be burnt on the Boot disk ? or is it enough just to install them on my C rive so they get recognised and therefore I am able to make the boot disk and install it ? PLS dont point me to a how to do a clean fresh install of windows Tutorial as they do not address the issues that are related in this case !! The forums right across the board are full of users confused and left in a void trying to overcome confusing info so that they can install Win XP and then hopefully upgrade to win 7, 8 , or 10 !! I appreciate anyone that takes the time to try to answer my problems ,I just hope I have made it clear enough in regards to the issues I am having .


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25 Dec 2017   #2
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

If you have the zip file that has the Win XP iso on it, just unzip it to a folder. Then use win 7 cd/ dvd burner to burn the iso to the cd. Nothing else is needed. Originally, Win XP did not have the SATA drivers, so if your laptop has a SATA disk you will have to load the SATA drivers during installation (via a Floppy disk). If I remember well you press F8 when booting the Win XP installation disk.
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25 Dec 2017   #3
samuria

win 8 32 bit
 
 

Doesnt the pc have a recovery partition back to XP?
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26 Dec 2017   #4
LearningNinja

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by samuria View Post
Doesnt the pc have a recovery partition back to XP?
No because I had to replace the Hard Drive ! The laptop was stolen and later returned by the cops minus the hard drive .
I am thinking your avatar comes from Kill Bill?
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26 Dec 2017   #5
LearningNinja

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
If you have the zip file that has the Win XP iso on it, just unzip it to a folder. Then use win 7 cd/ dvd burner to burn the iso to the cd. Nothing else is needed. Originally, Win XP did not have the SATA drivers, so if your laptop has a SATA disk you will have to load the SATA drivers during installation (via a Floppy disk). If I remember well you press F8 when booting the Win XP installation disk.
Ok that makes sense ! And what about all the crap about needing the NET. Framework and the IMAPlv files ? Im thinking that only relates to people that are using win XP to try to create the IOS boot disk and not win 7 users ? When information is given about all things regarding computers ( and of course the info comes from PC savvy people ) I think to much is assumed by the info givers that everyone should understand the terminology and be at least in primary school level as far as understanding computers etc But many are still in the kindergarten stage at the most basic level . and thanks Megahertz you seem to pop up from anywhere and offer help and good advice ,. I hope you enjoyed your Xmas and any holidays that you get .
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26 Dec 2017   #6
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

You could order a set of recovery disks for your laptop from Dell.
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27 Dec 2017   #7
LearningNinja

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
If you have the zip file that has the Win XP iso on it, just unzip it to a folder. Then use win 7 cd/ dvd burner to burn the iso to the cd. Nothing else is needed. Originally, Win XP did not have the SATA drivers, so if your laptop has a SATA disk you will have to load the SATA drivers during installation (via a Floppy disk). If I remember well you press F8 when booting the Win XP installation disk.
Yes I am using a SATA disk in the laptop I was just wondering what if I removed the SATA and put it into a PC and then load the win XP installation disk onto the SATA with all the XP drivers that are needed so it would contain the XP OPS etc and then move the SATA back into the laptop ! And maybe I will have to make a few adjustments . but it should work ??
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31 Dec 2017   #8
philipyip

Windows 10 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
You could order a set of recovery disks for your laptop from Dell.
Not for Windows XP which has reached end of life long ago.
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31 Dec 2017   #9
philipyip

Windows 10 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LearningNinja View Post
The forums right across the board are full of users confused and left in a void trying to overcome confusing info so that they can install Win XP and then hopefully upgrade to win 7, 8 , or 10 !! I appreciate anyone that takes the time to try to answer my problems ,I just hope I have made it clear enough in regards to the issues I am having .
Are you trying to upgrade to a newer Operating System? If so there is a trick to install Windows 7 without a Product Key and input the Upgrade Product Key via the Command Prompt and activate via the command prompt which removes the need to reinstall Windows XP in order to upgrade to Windows 7. Also Windows 10 Version 1709 Installation Media accepts Windows 7 Upgrade Only Product Keys only.

If you are trying to get the original software on it you'll actually need 2 installation discs, firstly the Media Direct DVD and secondly the Windows XP Media Centre 2005 DVD.

You mentioned installation .isos where did you get these? I have actually both I think.
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31 Dec 2017   #10
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LearningNinja View Post
Yes I am using a SATA disk in the laptop I was just wondering what if I removed the SATA and put it into a PC and then load the win XP installation disk onto the SATA with all the XP drivers that are needed so it would contain the XP OPS etc and then move the SATA back into the laptop ! And maybe I will have to make a few adjustments . but it should work ??
As the Win XP installation disk doesn't have the SATA drivers, when you boot from Win XP installation disk you won't even see the SATA disk, so the answer is NO, it wont work.
I used to use the nLite nLite - Deployment Tool for the bootable Unattended Windows installation to add the Win XP SATA drivers to the installation disk.
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