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Windows 7: exFAT format??

23 Apr 2009   #11
LePoilu

Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Due to external hard drives and other usb devices like flash drives being cross platform between Windows and Mac quite a bit MS is simply providing the necessary driver support for XP plus Vista since January there. Any form of Fat would be going backwards rather then forward anyways as far as Windows is concerned.

As fat as I know exFAT is only supported by Windows at this time.
So for Mac compatibility, it's not the better idea, expecially when we know that NTFS read/write is possible under Mac and Linux.

By the way, you'r talking about external drive, but the main question is about a system drive... exFAT for system drive has no interest.


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23 Apr 2009   #12
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LePoilu View Post
As fat as I know exFAT is only supported by Windows at this time.
So for Mac compatibility, it's not the better idea, expecially when we know that NTFS read/write is possible under Mac and Linux.

By the way, you'r talking about external drive, but the main question is about a system drive... exFAT for system drive has no interest.
When you out and buy an external hard drive or usb flash drive that's the type of factory partition seen on models that list PC/Mac compatibility. Of course that being any form of Fat as well as the extended usually seeing a software is totally obsolete even for XP let Vista or 7!

The only real interest at this point for exFat is when storing X-Box type files like game saves, updates where Fat is required there. For the destktop OS NTFS for Windows is the must have being far superior as well as being far more secure in general.

Besides I'm on a strict 7 no Fat diet here!
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23 Apr 2009   #13
chokonen888

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LePoilu View Post
Why ?
There's no reason. Even you have an SSD, exFAT will not make your systeme faster or better because it's not the goal. exFAT it's just a patch over FAT32 for better support of large volumes...
From what I've been told, exFAT seemed to be the format to go with for SSD drives. I could be wrong but I thought it improved performance and stopped the drives from stuttering?
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23 Apr 2009   #14
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chokonen888 View Post
From what I've been told, exFAT seemed to be the format to go with for SSD drives. I could be wrong but I thought it improved performance and stopped the drives from stuttering?
i already explained above that most of the optimizations such as timestamps are disabled in the current Windows 7 builds....
Win7 is optimized for SSD's usuage...
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23 Apr 2009   #15
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chokonen888 View Post
From what I've been told, exFAT seemed to be the format to go with for SSD drives. I could be wrong but I thought it improved performance and stopped the drives from stuttering?
exFAT maybe if you're running XP since it had compatibility hacks to support FAT volumes. I have a 64MB SSD in my eee 900a. I'm super happy with it using NTFS. Those drives "stutter" because the first generation controller from Phison and JMicron were CRAP. You read the AnandTech article and the thread here right? https://www.sevenforums.com/news/6203...ink-again.html

I have one of those controllers but it's running SATA mode which helps ALOT. The format of the disk has really very little to do with SSD performance aside from preventing last access timestamps as darkassain wrote.

That's probably the biggest gain right there -- tiny random writes are the bane of ALL SSDs from Intel to Samsung to JMicron to Indilinx just at varying degrees. Enable write caching if you can -- tends to increase the size of writes as they can often be coalesced. Turn off last access -- needed for servers but not so much desktops/laptops. Put databases and other files with that write access pattern on a spindle drive. And so on. Avoid tiny random writes.
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23 Apr 2009   #16
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

As I was mentioning earlier it sounds like your friends were running 7 through either virtual machines or on virtual hard drives. Vista and 7 are strictly NTFS native when installed normally to any internal hard drive without 3rd party software intervention.
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23 Apr 2009   #17
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
As I was mentioning earlier it sounds like your friends were running 7 through either virtual machines or on virtual hard drives. Vista and 7 are strictly NTFS native when installed normally to any internal hard drive without 3rd party software intervention.
I can't think of a way it would even work without NTFS considering 7 is build entirely on hard links mapping package files from WinSxS to their proper places in the \windows tree.
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23 Apr 2009   #18
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

This is why I was saying a VM machine of some type or a virtual hard drive not any full working install on any exFat or Fat32 for that matter. What they probably meant was mounting the iso not installing to the exFat partitions in order to custom install 7. That's the only thing that would make sense on that.

When creating the usb key here for seeing 7 installed the UtraISO reformatted both the NTFS and ubuntu VFat primary right off of the flash drive here in order to make that bootable. The iso was mounted right away without a restart to see the installer fire up while booted in 7 and copy the setup files while testing that out on a few fakes lately.
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24 Apr 2009   #19
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

I just wanted to throw something in after reading some of these posts. I just formatted an 8GB flash drive from NTFS to FAT. Windows 7 gave me the option to format in exFAT. I thought someone said Windows did not give you that option. Windows 7 (7077) did. FYI
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24 Apr 2009   #20
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nate42nd View Post
I just wanted to throw something in after reading some of these posts. I just formatted an 8GB flash drive from NTFS to FAT. Windows 7 gave me the option to format in exFAT. I thought someone said Windows did not give you that option. Windows 7 (7077) did. FYI
It's just doesn't provide that option during install.
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