Printer Sharing Windows 7 RC 64 to Vista 32

Experiment 626 · May 11, 2009

I downloaded Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Build:7100.0.090421-1700 x64.

After I installed it, I only had to install my wireless network drivers and Windows 7 downloaded the rest of all of my system. I did not have to install any driver at all.

My problem is when I try to print from my Vista 32 laptop nothing prints to my printer. Under active documents listed for my printer it just says under status | Error - Printing.

Under the ports tab on my Vista 32 laptop, the check is in the box \\[Windows 7 64]\[printer] | Local Port

Under the ports tab on my Window 7 64 Desktop, the check is in the box USB001 | Virtual printer port for USB

The 64 bit drivers for my printer are on the Windows 7 64 Desktop and the 32 bit drivers are on the Vista 32 laptop.

I do not know why I cannot share printing.

On Windows 7 64, share this printer is checked and Render print jobs on client computers is checked.

I know this seems to be a much talked about problem but I tried the best I could to follow the posted suggestions.

My Desktop has a Canon iP4600 printer.
My desktop's computer name is AGP-001 and the printer share name is CanoniP4.

jkkw · May 11, 2009

are your PCs in a homegroup? or did you manually share out the printers?

Experiment 626 · May 11, 2009

Windows 7 is in a homegroup but I do not know how to tell if Vista is in a homegroup. I am relatively new to Windows Vista/7. How would I be able to find out?
All of the network settings were the default settings for both computers except that I manually put the local port for my printer on my Vista 32 laptop when my desktop OS was still Windows XP. I got the Vista OS because it came on the laptop when I purchased it about a few months ago.

jkkw · May 11, 2009

sorry i misread - if you have Vista, then homegroup can't really help you.
OK, i assume you know that when you share your printer (without homegroup) you need permissions for it to be printed from another PC.

on Windows 7, check this.. start menu | devices and printers | right click on printer icon | printer properties | select the "security" tab

make sure "everyone" is listed there, if not, click add, type in "everyone" (no quotes) and hit OK, then hit OK again.

next, go to control panel | network and internet | network and sharing center | on the left side, look for "change advanced sharing settings"

under "home or work" which should be your current profile (if not, fix that), and ensure that network discovery is on, file and printer sharing is on, scroll down to the 2nd last entry, and turn OFF password protected sharing.

note that this will allow ANYONE on your home network to print to your windows 7 connected printer.

ok, now see if the Vista machine can print.

If this fails, i'm blaming the printer driver

Experiment 626 · May 11, 2009

Thank you for the help, jkkw. Unfortunately I had already tried that. Everything that was suggested was already implemented because I think it is the default setting, except the password which I turned off before I even posted my dilemma. I am still trying to find a solution so if anybody else has any other ideas, I'm all ears.

Experiment 626 · May 13, 2009

I have a new interesting dilemma that still goes with the same problem. I was able to printer share form my old Gateway laptop with Windows XP 32 Bit and it printed with no problem.

I didn't change any settings or even install the printer drivers on the Gateway. It is set as an auto printer. I also tried, as someone on another thread called it "poodle faking", making my Vista 32 add a new printer and made it a local and selected add port and set the port to \\AGP-001\CanoniP4 and it said access denied but don't forget that the Gateway, which I did nothing to it, allowed me to print.

jimbo45 · May 13, 2009

Experiment 626 said:
I have a new interesting dilemma that still goes with the same problem. I was able to printer share form my old Gateway laptop with Windows XP 32 Bit and it printed with no problem.

I didn't change any settings or even install the printer drivers on the Gateway. It is set as an auto printer. I also tried, as someone on another thread called it "poodle faking", making my Vista 32 add a new printer and made it a local and selected add port and set the port to \\AGP-001\CanoniP4 and it said access denied but don't forget that the Gateway, which I did nothing to it, allowed me to print.

Hi there
If you got access denied then your network setup is incorrect -- your AGP-001 computer MUST be able to be seen and shared on the network.

The VISTA machine needs NETWORK DISCOVERY ON -- I've posted elsewhere that VISTA on my machine seems to re-set it to OFF again every time I re-boot.

I don't normally use VISTA so there might be an easy way to ensure Network discovery is ON after a reboot.

(Actually the "Poodle-faking" comes from an expression in the Antique furniture trade when for example a bit of "French Polishing" is done to hide a scratch etc etc.).

Cheers
jimbo

Experiment 626 · May 13, 2009

jimbo45 said:
Hi there
If you got access denied then your network setup is incorrect -- your AGP-001 computer MUST be able to be seen and shared on the network.

The VISTA machine needs NETWORK DISCOVERY ON -- I've posted elsewhere that VISTA on my machine seems to re-set it to OFF again every time I re-boot.

I don't normally use VISTA so there might be an easy way to ensure Network discovery is ON after a reboot.

(Actually the "Poodle-faking" comes from an expression in the Antique furniture trade when for example a bit of "French Polishing" is done to hide a scratch etc etc.).

Cheers
jimbo

I found out that my Network Discovery settings on my Vista 32 wasn't even selected for either on or off but I selected Discovery on and the printer still won't work. I even rebooted my computer to see if the settings needed to be on with a fresh boot and the settings stayed but I still couldn't access the printer. I even uninstalled all of the Canon software from it and reinstalled it and still I get access denied.

I am so frustrated. :mad2: I don't understand what the problem is.

I did notice, however, that even though the Network Discovery settings said "Custom" before I changed them to On, I was able to see my Windows 7 computer and it's printer from the network selector. Do you think it is maybe just a glich in Windows 7 RC or what else do you think it could be?

I'm not mad. I was looking for an emoticon that would show pulling out hair but they didn't have one and that was the funniest. ^-^v

Pierre50 · Jun 3, 2009

Sorry to hear of your troubles, but you are not alone... :v)

I have also done all of the above, and it still will not print. So what I did was to goto Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services and restarted the Printer Spooler service... and THEN it will fire my print job just fine! As long as I do it each time that is... (Grrrrrrr)

Printing FROM Win7RC X64 TO Win7RC X86... I haven't tried the other way yet.

My Vista X32 will print okay now, as will the Vista Home X32 box... but the win7 X64 will NOT print unless I restart the Print Spooler service.

So now I am re-installing the Win7 X32 system... with a hard drive format just to be sure...

More news as it goes along...

Pierre50 · Jun 3, 2009

Looks like a fresh reinstall of Win7 X32 fixed my issues... Upgrade was how the system was first installed, then I applied the "Win7 Migration" pack that I performed prior to the upgrade.

Could have been either one of those events in my case...

HTH

zhackore · Sep 13, 2009

To All those Getting the Access Denied Error when attempting the "Poodle-Faking" method, this is the Fix.

You must complete both steps on the machine that is sharing the Printer. Just to play it safe I did on both my machines.

1) Share Permissions
1. On explorer, go to C:\windows\system32\spool\PRINTERS
2. Right click, Properties
3. Sharing tab
4. Advanced Sharing
5. Check "Share this folder"
6. Permissions
7. Grant everyone Full Control

2) NTFS Permissions
1. On explorer, go to C:\windows\system32\spool\printers
2. Right click, Properties
3. Security tab
4. Edit
5. Add
6. Advanced
7. Find Now
8. Choose "NETWORK"
9. OK
10. Grant NETWORK Full Control

I originally found this information here:
Adding network printer in Vista.

Hope this helps, Happy Printing.

zigzag3143 · Sep 14, 2009

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Ken

Roberden · Nov 15, 2009

I found out that my Network Discovery settings on my Vista 32 wasn't even selected for either on or off but I selected Discovery on and the printer still won't work. I even rebooted my computer to see if the settings needed to be on with a fresh boot and the settings stayed but I still couldn't access the printer. I even uninstalled all of the Canon software from it and reinstalled it and still I get access denied.

I am so frustrated. :mad2: I don't understand what the problem is.

I did notice, however, that even though the Network Discovery settings said "Custom" before I changed them to On, I was able to see my Windows 7 computer and it's printer from the network selector. Do you think it is maybe just a glich in Windows 7 RC or what else do you think it could be?

I'm not mad. I was looking for an emoticon that would show pulling out hair but they didn't have one and that was the funniest. ^-^v

I am running into the same problem you are having. Vista x86 Laptop, Win7 x64 workstation (with printer attached, previously running Vista x64 and printing fine).

My laptop discovers the Win7 on the network, does list the Printer folder but there are no printers in it (Network Discovery is obviously ON in the Win7 station). When I go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings, the File and Printer Sharing is turned OFF.

I turn it on (click radio button), Save Changes, go thorugh all the UAC prompts, etc. Try printing and still printing from the laptop to the network printer does not work.

So I go back to check Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings and surprisingly File and Printer Sharing is turned off (I had just trned it ON!).

So I turn it back ON. But no matter how many times I try to turn it ON, it does not stay ON. It resets to OFF! So my problem is how to turn it ON and get it to stay ON! Check to see if you have the same problem.

Solution?

erndog105 · Dec 16, 2009

My solution to W7 64 desktop and vista laptop

My configuration is same as yours, Desktop W7 64 with Canon 780 printer attached via USB. Two laptops are wireless, desktop is on lan to router. I have a common work group name on all three computers, each computer has unique computer names
I then went to the W7 desk top.
I went into Control Panel, network and sharing center, advanced sharing settings.
there I Turned ON all except 1) changed file sharing connections to 40-56 bit encryption (I read this somewhere so not sure this change is necessary) and I turned off password protection (this is most important, passwork is only for w7 to w7 networking).
From there I went to vista laptop and went to NETWORK and (if you can see you desktop - If not that is another problem). I went to "add a printer" from network. Once you find it, you should be ok. Good luck.
Let us know how it goes

cousinpuke · Jan 11, 2010

This works

zhackore said:
To All those Getting the Access Denied Error when attempting the "Poodle-Faking" method, this is the Fix.

You must complete both steps on the machine that is sharing the Printer. Just to play it safe I did on both my machines.

1) Share Permissions
1. On explorer, go to C:\windows\system32\spool\PRINTERS
2. Right click, Properties
3. Sharing tab
4. Advanced Sharing
5. Check "Share this folder"
6. Permissions
7. Grant everyone Full Control

2) NTFS Permissions
1. On explorer, go to C:\windows\system32\spool\printers
2. Right click, Properties
3. Security tab
4. Edit
5. Add
6. Advanced
7. Find Now
8. Choose "NETWORK"
9. OK
10. Grant NETWORK Full Control

I originally found this information here:
Adding network printer in Vista.

Hope this helps, Happy Printing.

Had to register to let you know that this method WORKS. I looked all day today for a way to fix this problem. I have a Canon printer on a Windows 7 (64) machine, and I could not print to the networked printer from my Vista laptop. Canon does not provide an installable .pdf, only an unpackable .exe file (which won't install on the 64 bit machine). I tried the fake local port thing and got "access denied". Thank you, thank you, thank you. You're a life saver.

tvelanovich · Jan 13, 2010

Win7 x64 Laptop to WinXP x32 Desktop

I have tried it all. I did everything on this page, I tried the "poodle-faking" and still no connection. I have tried the print-spooler restart, nothing. I have gone into share settings. I have gone into the window/system 32 settings and these two PCs still will not connect.I have rebooted and reloaded operating systems on each PC and I at my wits end. I cannot afford to by an operating system for my desktop. I also feel that this shouldn't necessary. Are their any other suggestions? It always comes back after I send a document to the printer that their is no connection. Yet I can access all other shared folders on my XP 32b PC from my Win7 x64 laptop. Please help.

Hartty · Jan 25, 2010

I was having the same problem and tried every thing above. i managed to fix it by going to add printer in the control panel and adding the printer again,even though the printer was in my list and set as the default printer it wouldn't work until added it again.
hope this works for you

valleyman9 · May 17, 2010

ongoing confusion - networking printers VISTA to W7

Well, I have read everything and probably tried everything to get a printer physically connected to a Win 7 pc to print a job initiated on a wireless networked pc running VISTA.

It seems that there must be a step-by-step solution here? And what is the change that messed things up from my former XP - VISTA setup? It worked just fine with xp and vista, where the xp PC had the printers physically connected?

Please, if you have insight to this problem, please use small words and speak slowly for my benefit. If you can lay out the fix "by the numbers" that would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

Dusty1980 · Oct 10, 2010

Microsoft still doesn't have this fixed over a year later. I just bought a win7 laptop and I'm trying to print to a network printer connected to a vista desktop. I can share files fine fine but when it comes to printing no luck. On the Win7 laptop I see the network printer but the laptop won't communicate with it.

Slick1983 · Jan 3, 2011

I have Printer on
1)Win7X32 Desktop,
want to install printer on
2)Win7X64 laptop.
I notice that on 1) Printer Properties>Sharing>Additional Drives, the [ ] x64 box was unchecked & under Installed, it had "No." However, I wasn't able to find or install a x64 driver.
I join Roberdon with :mad2:

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