With McAfee deal, Intel to bake in security

Borg 386 · Aug 20, 2010

And there's the bottom line folks....

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In the future, you may not have to buy antivirus software for your laptops and mobile devices if Intel is able to live up to the promise of integrating technology from acquisition target McAfee, experts said on Thursday.
In announcing its plans to acquire security company McAfee for $7.68 billion, Intel executives said they see security as being as critical to computing as performance and connectivity and that they plan to combine security with its hardware and expand further into the mobile market.

It's what I figured was going to happen. Smart move when you look at it. Take a AV company that has had lots of fails, acquire it for a probably cheap price, then take advantage of that by integrating it's protection into your chip, or tying it in. I believe this, if it works out, will give them quite an advantage over it's competitors. Or it could fail....time will tell.

Don't expect to see security software hardwired onto the chip, said Tim Bajarin, president of analyst company Creative Strategies. Rather, there will likely be a bridge on the core CPU (central processing unit) to a security element, much like there are bridges to additional graphics chips and modems, he said.
"This particular deal allows Intel and McAfee to work together to tie future generations of software security to the processor via some sort of SOC (system-on-a-chip) solution," Bajarin said. "Today if a hacker wants to come into a system it almost always is done through software. But Intel and McAfee are capable of adding even another level of security, which would make a hacker have to break the hardware code as well as the software code."

CarlTR6 · Aug 20, 2010

When that happens I will go with AMD.

Win7User512 · Aug 20, 2010

Borg 386 said:
And there's the bottom line folks....

Read More:

With McAfee deal, Intel to bake in security | InSecurity Complex - CNET News

In the future, you may not have to buy antivirus software for your laptops and mobile devices if Intel is able to live up to the promise of integrating technology from acquisition target McAfee, experts said on Thursday.
In announcing its plans to acquire security company McAfee for $7.68 billion, Intel executives said they see security as being as critical to computing as performance and connectivity and that they plan to combine security with its hardware and expand further into the mobile market.

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Don't expect to see security software hardwired onto the chip, said Tim Bajarin, president of analyst company Creative Strategies. Rather, there will likely be a bridge on the core CPU (central processing unit) to a security element, much like there are bridges to additional graphics chips and modems, he said.
"This particular deal allows Intel and McAfee to work together to tie future generations of software security to the processor via some sort of SOC (system-on-a-chip) solution," Bajarin said. "Today if a hacker wants to come into a system it almost always is done through software. But Intel and McAfee are capable of adding even another level of security, which would make a hacker have to break the hardware code as well as the software code."

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That was what I first imagined. But this is undoubtedly a huge gamble. They have a few antivirus features on their chips now, but to put so many more on would be a huge boost or huge bust.

I wonder if this is their vision knowing that computing power is getting so great that our software algorithms are becoming obsolete.

Borg 386 · Aug 20, 2010

CarlTR6 said:
When that happens I will go with AMD.

Then you may get another AV to go with that.

This is only speculation, but if Intel & McAfee are hopping in bed together, then what's to stop AMD from teaming up with Norton or another AV.

They may not have a choice but to do so to stay competitive. I'll bet AMD & several AV companies are watching this real close.

On the plus side, this may indeed lead to a better, improved AV. I won't say 100% secure, because we all know there is no such beast.

Win7User512 · Aug 20, 2010

Borg 386 said:
CarlTR6 said:

When that happens I will go with AMD.

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Then you may get another AV to go with that.

This is only speculation, but if Intel & McAfee are hopping in bed together, then what's to stop AMD from teaming up with Norton or another AV.

I was reading this earlier. Symantec Needs Alliances, Network Products to Vie With Intel - BusinessWeek

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

CarlTR6 said:
When that happens I will go with AMD.

lol.. one step ahead of you on that.. built a 6 core AMD system two weeks ago and I love it... for god's sake I hope they improve McAfee's products first or Intel is going to go right down the tubes

Win7User512 · Aug 20, 2010

I've almost gone with AMD...but some computers I have used with AMD chips seem a bit...slow.

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

There's nothing slow about a 1090t.. might not rate up there with the I7 980 in benchmarks, but it only costs $300 and I haven't been able to max out all 6 cores, no matter what apps I run simultaneously

Win7User512 · Aug 20, 2010

Maybe I was using the Athlon or Sempron. Those are the lower end models right?

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

Yeah.. the phenom is the high end processor. Pricewise, AMD phenom X2s and X4s outperform anything made by intel for the same money

Win7User512 · Aug 20, 2010

I'm curious: Why do you feel they are superior to Intel?

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

I don't think they're better, just less expensive.. It would have cost at least another $400 to build an intel based box that would be any faster, but intel does make a better CPU

CarlTR6 · Aug 20, 2010

Borg 386 said:
CarlTR6 said:

When that happens I will go with AMD.

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Then you may get another AV to go with that.

This is only speculation, but if Intel & McAfee are hopping in bed together, then what's to stop AMD from teaming up with Norton or another AV.

They may not have a choice but to do so to stay competitive. I'll bet AMD & several AV companies are watching this real close.

On the plus side, this may indeed lead to a better, improved AV. I won't say 100% secure, because we all know there is no such beast.

I agree with your premise; but with AMD it won't be McAfee.

madtownidiot said:
CarlTR6 said:

When that happens I will go with AMD.

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lol.. one step ahead of you on that.. built a 6 core AMD system two weeks ago and I love it... for god's sake I hope they improve McAfee's products first or Intel is going to go right down the tubes

+1 I could not agree more.

Now what happens when MS bundles MSE with Win 8?

pparks1 · Aug 20, 2010

madtownidiot said:
Yeah.. the phenom is the high end processor. Pricewise, AMD phenom X2s and X4s outperform anything made by intel for the same money

Are you sure about that statement? As many benchmarks seem to indicate that a Core i5-750 often outperforms or closely matches a 1090T, and the Corei5-750 is $100 CHEAPER than a 1090T.

Here is an example;
http://www.techspot.com/review/269-amd-phenom2-x6-1090T-and-1055T/page4.html

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

Ok then.. I will retract that statement. Having never actually tested a system with an i5 750 in it, I couldn't say whether it actually outperforms the 1090t in real world apps, as benchmark tests don't always reflect reality, especially when comparing AMD to intel, but in my research for my last build I did consider an i7 920/x58 mobo/ddr3/ dual 480Gtx SLI build and decided to spend the money I saved on a pair of really good HDDs instead

Tarka Dal · Aug 20, 2010

What I do with any new computer that comes my way I rip off the free trial McAfee and put my own security on it. So, if they intend to embed with McAfee then I will have to go with AMD. Saying that, the last computer I bought was an AMD...Works well!

pparks1 · Aug 20, 2010

madtownidiot said:
Ok then.. I will retract that statement. Having never actually tested a system with an i5 750 in it, I couldn't say whether it actually outperforms the 1090t in real world apps, as benchmark tests don't always reflect reality, but in my research for my last build I did consider an i7 920/680i mobo/ddr3/ dual 480Gtx sli combo and decided to spend the money I saved on a pair of really good HDDs instead

That's cool and I'm not trying to bad mouth an AMD setup (I've used them before myself), but your statement about AMD always outperforming Intel at the same price point rubs me the wrong way. It's a common misbelief and shared by many, but not universally true.

Except for the very top of the line, we haven't really had high priced Intel CPU's since the Pentium D, Core 2 Duo timeframe. Price per performance with Intel chips has been excellent.

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

Really, if intel goes with the McAfail thing, they should change their company name to Dunce

Phone Man · Aug 20, 2010

CarlTR6 said:
Borg 386 said:

CarlTR6 said:

When that happens I will go with AMD.

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Then you may get another AV to go with that.

This is only speculation, but if Intel & McAfee are hopping in bed together, then what's to stop AMD from teaming up with Norton or another AV.

They may not have a choice but to do so to stay competitive. I'll bet AMD & several AV companies are watching this real close.

On the plus side, this may indeed lead to a better, improved AV. I won't say 100% secure, because we all know there is no such beast.

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I agree with your premise; but with AMD it won't be McAfee.

madtownidiot said:

CarlTR6 said:

When that happens I will go with AMD.

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lol.. one step ahead of you on that.. built a 6 core AMD system two weeks ago and I love it... for god's sake I hope they improve McAfee's products first or Intel is going to go right down the tubes

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+1 I could not agree more.

Now what happens when MS bundles MSE with Win 8?

It probably won't run on an Intel chip. :devil2:

Jim

madtownidiot · Aug 20, 2010

I can just see it now... every intel based PC made after this will be infected within 30 seconds of connecting to the internet for the first time, if you can even get it to boot without McAfreeze flagging some critical driver as a virus while ignoring actual viruses..

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