Windows 7 to be shipped in Europe sans IE

Tews · 13 Jul 2009

wired retired said:

I believe that only applied to build 7000 the beta version. Not the RC version or Win7E.

I dont think so.....I got that using build 7260 ...

Night Hawk · 13 Jul 2009

petrossa said:

your wish is my command:

Working to Fulfill our Legal Obligations in Europe for Windows 7 - Microsoft On The Issues

Well that will keep you out of trouble and end up being accused or "plagerism" by quoting an article without providing a link for reference. I;ve had that happen where you are just about to post a quote and you accidently close out the other browser window before the link is added in!

Then you have to go out and relocate the exact same article again. That can be a real pain .... when it was one that was hard to find to begin with!

"not me day"

Tews said:

This is from the IE8 home page .... I dont know whether this will change after the retail version is shipped or not..

The IE 8 seen in the beta build was itself the beta version of IE 8 seen there as well. Be glad that part is over since the beta for any browser tends to be buggy at times! Well that's it's called "BETA"!

Once 7 is finally out on the 10/22 you'll likely see a IE 8 for 7 link along with those for XP and Vista since IE 8 can be removed from 7 as well as all those using 7 E trying to download copies when that time comes!

petrossa · 14 Jul 2009

PhreePhly said:

This is one of my biggest peeves. Why is it assumed that open source is always good? To be perfectly honest, without MS creating a standard, the Desktop world would look like Linux, a decent kernel with no standard distributions or actual frontends.

This is one of the reasons Unix never caught on, there was no uniform distribution for business to interact with. You had Posix compliance, but that was all.

Windows created an actual standard that was uniform internationally. This, of course, requires an almost monopolistic standard, but at least we have some form of usability.

PhreePhly

HI Phree nice to see you back.

in short: open source = (almost) free, MS = completely over the top in price.
As a taxpayer i prefer my government spends my money thriftily and use it to pay 3000% profit margin for software.

petrossa · 14 Jul 2009

wired retired said:

Is that a moot point? By the full package, do you mean with a browser? Or are you alluding to an upgrade version?

It was my understanding that the full version of Win7E [OK sans IE8] is on pre-order offer in the EU as from 15th July?

yes with browser, the standard US package.
I'm sure most of you are completely honest well meaning citizens. I am not i must admit. I paid MStax since the 80's, they owe me big time.

i'm going for the free upgrade to vista sp3 (aka Windows 7)

petrossa · 14 Jul 2009

Robin2130 said:

I'm 100% agree with you. It is a shame that Neelie Kroes requires that fron MS, and who are the victims? No... not Microsoft. The European Windows Users.

HELLO!!!

MS decided to ship without browser, NOT my favorite milf Kroes.
The EU only wanted MS to comply with EU regulations on anti-competitve behaviour.

petrossa · 14 Jul 2009

Night Hawk said:

Then you have to go out and relocate the exact same article again. That can be a real pain .... when it was one that was hard to find to begin with!

"not me day"

I have a temp folder in my bookmarks. All articles which i find interesting are there. Once in a while i clean it out.

Night Hawk · 14 Jul 2009

I have an ever growing colleciotn with a 1tb drive available for backing things up.

I just have to remember where I put things!

petrossa · 14 Jul 2009

Night Hawk said:

I have an ever growing colleciotn with a 1tb drive available for backing things up.

I just have to remember where I put things!

ask NSA or CIA they'll know

Night Hawk · 14 Jul 2009

petrossa said:

ask NSA or CIA they'll know

No thanks! I'll let you ask and wait to hear what they tell you.

PhreePhly · 14 Jul 2009

petrossa said:

HI Phree nice to see you back.

in short: open source = (almost) free, MS = completely over the top in price.
As a taxpayer i prefer my government spends my money thriftily and use it to pay 3000% profit margin for software.

How do you come up with "completely over the top" in regards to price? MS has very good deals for schools and government agencies. Also, while I have no problem with open source formats for documents, although pdf (not open source) is still the de facto standard), I much prefer an actual standard on the desktop/OS.

The promise of Linux on the Desktop has been going on for almost 15 years, and we still don't have a standard desktop. How are different agencies supposed to interact if each one has a different desktop, different theme, different distrib? It doesn't work. Windows fixed that. And for that, I am thankful. Otherwise, you are dealing with an IT nightmare, that must be paid for. And labor costs quickly trump software costs in a hurry.

And we can cry about retail prices being soo expensive, but let's be real. Here in the US, you can buy a quad-core 4 GB RAM machine with Vista Home Premium for around $700 from the bigger named integrators, i.e. Dell, HP, etc.. Just pricing parts, I come to approximately $650 that means the actual OS is probably in the $50 range. How is that "Over the Top" Expensive? The vast majority of OS sales are OEMs (approx. 93%). No one is getting screwed on OS pricing.

PhreePhly