Firefox faces uncertain future as Google deal apparently ends

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It hasn’t been a good year for Firefox. Mozilla has lost share to Google, it’s lost the loyalty of enterprise customers, and it’s lost key talent. And a deal with Google that supplied 84% of its revenue last year was scheduled to end in November. Can Firefox avoid a slide into irrelevance?
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Great, that's all we need! Goggle is junk, but as long as Mozilla is ONLY going to lose 85% revenue, it doesn't sound that serious! :sarc:

I hope they find a new source of similar $$ or we lose one of the only decent "mainstream" browsers, IMO...

BTW: interesting how "Google" is in the ieSpell check, But sure enough no "Mozilla"....(only "Mozelle!":))

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The article stated that revenue was from search revenues and the agreement with Google was due to expire in November but Mozilla expected to renew that contract. But knowing Google they will screw Mozilla if they can.

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Actually the article says:

We currently have partnerships with a number of search providers that differ by market. Our largest contract, with Google, comes up for renewal in November. We have every confidence that search partnerships will remain a solid generator of revenue for Mozilla for the foreseeable future.
Click to expand...

And when asked:

On December 1, I asked Mozilla PR for news on whether the agreement with Google was renegotiated or whether the foundation has any further update to that FAQ. I received a crisp reply:

We currently do not have an update to share.
Click to expand...

With Google having their own browser to tout, it becomes a question of whether it benefits them more to renew the deal or not. This could be interesting. A Guy
 

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dont tell me i have to go back to safari... (mac user lol) .. even if firefox charged, i think its loyal supporters will pay a small fee. i certainly wouldnt bat an eye lid at a £10 license for something i use for several hours a day.
 

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Seconded. Sound like some of you Firefox fans need to get accustomed to using Opera.
 

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Mac, firefox, opera, google....I think you folks sould get your own forum actually...this is WINDOWS 7 forum you know. Just my opinion of course.
 

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We're discussing a browser that many Windows 7 users use. Opera and Google as well. JMHO, of course. A Guy
 

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A Guy said:
Actually the article says:

We currently have partnerships with a number of search providers that differ by market. Our largest contract, with Google, comes up for renewal in November. We have every confidence that search partnerships will remain a solid generator of revenue for Mozilla for the foreseeable future.
Click to expand...

And when asked:

On December 1, I asked Mozilla PR for news on whether the agreement with Google was renegotiated or whether the foundation has any further update to that FAQ. I received a crisp reply:

We currently do not have an update to share.
Click to expand...

With Google having their own browser to tout, it becomes a question of whether it benefits them more to renew the deal or not. This could be interesting. A Guy
Click to expand...

yup, google chrome is big
 

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If FF does fold, which I doubt, I'll go with IE9 as it is has been shown to be the safest browser. I will NEVER us Chrome from the Evil Empire (Google).

Jim :geek:
 

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I have a belief that Google is going to implode.

The changes on search page, horrid BBoD, they are now destroying what was left of the great old
You TUBE and turning it into Google TUBE...the new UI is horrid, a complete mess, complicated and only aimed at pushing people into using Google + .
 

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My biggest gripe with Google, as far as actual use, is that they removed their cached links, which I found very useful, either is viewing webpages that had been removed from websites, or to locate info via search words that had been highlighted. It was this that caused me to choose using Google in the first place.
 

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seekermeister said:
My biggest gripe with Google, as far as actual use, is that they removed their cached links, which I found very useful, either is viewing webpages that had been removed from websites, or to locate info via search words that had been highlighted. It was this that caused me to choose using Google in the first place.
Click to expand...

The cached links are still there - Google just made them more cumbersome to access.

Ever notice the double arrows >> to the right of each search result? When you hover over them, a preview of the page is loaded to the right. Above the preview, you can find the familiar Cached and Similar links.

As for the black box on Google's homepage, I found that it goes away if you delete all Google cookies from your system and allow them to be recreated afterward. Now Google just shows an extra blue bar at the top for me which isn't too bothersome.
 

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Mozilla's Google Deal is NOT Dead

From the 'Don't always believe what you read' files:

There has been some 'confusion' in recent days about the status of Mozilla's relationship with Google. Some have speculated (incorrectly) that the deal is over, leaving Mozilla without its chief source of revenue.

That's simply not the case. Just ask Mozilla. They just released a new statement on the issue which will clear up some of the misconceptions.

"Our search relationship with Google remains positive for both of us. We are in active negotiations and have nothing further to announce at this time. We have every confidence that search partnerships will continue to be a strong and growing generator of revenue for the foreseeable future. "
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Mozilla's motivation in this partnership is obvious, but what does Google get out of it?
 

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HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
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For Google, without the Mozilla partnership (which gives Mozilla a few pennies on every search conducted from Firefox), they'd raise the ire of the U.S. FTC and Congress. Google is already walking a thin line on anti-trust type issues and it is critical that they continue to support Firefox (a competitor in some respects) to provide an answer.

As well, Google benefits from Mozilla's development efforts which are all open source. Innovations that come from Mozilla can and do help Google.
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I suspect the 1st sentence is the major motivator. A Guy
 

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Thanks, that makes some sense, but I still don't understand how that would help Google in terms of anti-trust law...but then I'm neither a lawyer or politician.
 

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