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Windows 7: Which antivirus is best for win7

16 May 2009   #121
penn

7-7100
 
 

Tried KIS Internet Security 2009 - and everytime I logged on the GRC it kept failing the leak tests - even windows 7 firewall passes those tests every time


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16 May 2009   #122
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The one thing seen in IE 8 now is the Suggested sites option to help filter unwanted sites where you are likely to catch bugs from to start with. The Live search also steers you away from sites that are known to bugged.
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25 May 2009   #123
tw33k

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
 
 

eset NOD32. been using it so long now i would never dream of using anything else
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25 May 2009   #124
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The only reason I even have an antivirus program on at this point is due to the constant prompting you would see from Windows itself. The last time and probably the only time I can remember running into a virus was like 4yrs. ago.

I had to intentionally let it run just to see what it would do as well as testing the older free version of AVG at the time. AVG won out when put against the I-Worm that came attacked on an unknown email at the time.
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25 May 2009   #125
sexytool

Windows 7 dual with XP SP2 ((Highly Custom))
 
 

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The last time and probably the only time I can remember running into a virus was like 4yrs. ago.

Trojans and back-doors don't show any visible signs of infection, so how can you know you didn't have one?
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25 May 2009   #126
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sexytool View Post
Trojans and back-doors don't show any visible signs of infection, so how can you know you didn't have one?
I've run into enough trojan downloaders and other bugs trying to get a foot hold to no avail back when there was no antiphising filtering seen in IE 6 while AVG actually pointed out where those were located for manual removal on the few occasions as well as other protections catching a few. Viruses and trojans however are two different things entirely to begin with there.

Adwares, spywares, downloaders, key loggers each fall into their own catagory of malwares. Likewise there are different forms of viruses. An I-Worm for example is a self replicating worm that uses your contact list in order to infect other systems by spreading to them by your own email client.

Downloaders generally create a doorway for other bugs to be downloaded directly onto your system. Browser hijackers are a form of adware by forcing the older versions of IE onto a specific site trying to keep you logged in there. You'll notice that all of the newer antivirus programs now indicate having additional malware and IE protection added in not just offering protection from various viruses.
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26 May 2009   #127
sexytool

Windows 7 dual with XP SP2 ((Highly Custom))
 
 

If you'd been using firefox or netscape before that i'd agree you had a low chance of malicious software.

Regardless of category however, until version 7 IE was exploitable to the stage where vicious software was able to be dropped without any visual indicator whatsoever.

The only way you could tell, is if you had a process monitor that alerted you to a second instance of IE running. And in those days, such software simply didn't exist. It still doesn't to date, if a process is cleared for running like IE then software to date will not be able to differentiate between a user initiated process and an exploit initiated process.

Thus the problem with popup blockers and the reason they never work 100%; They can't tell the difference between a normal popup and an exploited popup since exploits usually run with administrator or system privellages, the software simply assumes you needed administrator privelages to run IE or that you initiated it by clicking a link in another application, such as a link in the Version segment of Azureus.

Furthermore is windows' core susceptibility with TCPIP.sys. It's not very exploitable nowadays, but even as recently as 2 years ago XP was vulnerable to multiple attacks via the TCPIP networking host and windows 2000 sadly never received hotfixes for all the attacks XP is protected against.

Anyone who knows this understands just how necessary an anti-virus and decent hardware or *nix firewall is. Software alternatives like ZoneAlarm simply don't cut it.

The only way you could get away with having no AV and anti-spyware software -in ANY day- is if you used netscape/firefox and only checked web-based email.
Even then you're at the mercy of the server; if their AV missed a virus (And there was a 3 to 15% chance then that it did happen) you'd cop it for certain.
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26 May 2009   #128
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

FireFox seems to have it's own problems with "bugs" of various types ruling that one out as a 100% safe alternative. Read up on a few of those like "FireFox Vulneable To 7-Year-Old Bug" http://www.crn.com/security/16430069...PCKHSCJUNN2JVN

Or how about,,,
Drive-by Trojans exploit browser flaws

Is Firefox really more secure than IE? Drive-by Trojans exploit browser flaws € The Register

Don't think for a moment that since you are not using one browser but another you can't be wailed good by some other malware intended for alternate browsers.

There's never any 1000% percent guaranty in writting for any browser that exists. Being very familiar with any subtle changes plus multiple layers of protections on top of "smart browsing habits" are the methods that help steer you away from most bugs to start with.
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26 May 2009   #129
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

To suppliment the antiphising filter and suggested sites option now seen in IE 8 those who run WLM with the optional toolbar as well as any other 3rd party addon security bar are actually far less likely to run into the bad sites to start off with. The few run into so far were flagged instantly with a trojan alert prompt where you either hit the back arrow or closed out the browser window before anything could be dropped onto the hard drive.

The one thing that will get past any and all browsers despite what faults you want to point out for any particular is what you download. If a virus is concealed there then you have a problem without a good layer of protection inplace.

Some of the bugs out there will actually slip past the best rated browser as well as the top antivirus programs where you then need some type of special remover. It depends often on how well they are written regardless of which program or browser is used.
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26 May 2009   #130
ten

XP / Windows 7 Pro RTM
 
 

The best protection is using ones head. I don't run diddly squat for protection or use Active X and never have any issues.
If I purposely download something from a "bad" site, I online scan it and run it in a VM.
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