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I noticed that a clean installation of windows 7 64 bit uses 15gb of hard drive is this usual. If so I feel sorry for people with small hard drives who hope to upgrade from XP.
 

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windows 7 64 bit
Yep, that's probably 'bout right... Hello new hard drive!
 

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Home Grown
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate (64)
CPU
i7-2600K
Motherboard
Asus P8P67-M Pro
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 5750
Sound Card
On-Board
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LG W2486L
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1920X1080
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Intel X-25M 80 Gig SSD | Intel X-25M 160 Gig SSD | WD Black 500MB - External eSata
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Zalman ZM770-XT 770 Watts
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Antec 180 mini
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Cooler Master V8
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15MB - Cable
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Sissy OC - 4.6 @ 1.3175 24/7 | 18' Idle - 55' Load
System Restore can easily eat away at the space. But the base of Windows 7 is under 8 GB, however, it takes 16 GB to install because first the image from the DVD is copied to the HDD then expanded. The copy is residing on the HDD while it is being expanded into place. In theory two copies, means double the space. Remove all of the extra stuff like System Restore and other expanding data like pagefiles and hibernation, under 8 GB.

But you know...good 1 TB HDDs are under $100 these days and they continue to fall in price.
 

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Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
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SteelSeries Siberia Elite
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Dell UltraSharp U3011
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2560x1600
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Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
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875W Some Dell PSU <.<
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Alienware Aurora ALX
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Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical
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Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
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I noticed that a clean installation of windows 7 64 bit uses 15gb of hard drive is this usual. If so I feel sorry for people with small hard drives who hope to upgrade from XP.

Honestly, if 15GB is a pinch, they probably shouldn't be installing 7. They should be getting a new computer.
 

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Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
CPU
3.00 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo E8400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K/EPU Rev 1.xx
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
Sound Card
Built in HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Gateway LCD
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
ST3160023A [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, rev 8.01, ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 2, rev 3.AAK
ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 1, rev 3.AAK
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Logitech G11
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
13.44 Mbps
I noticed that a clean installation of windows 7 64 bit uses 15gb of hard drive is this usual. If so I feel sorry for people with small hard drives who hope to upgrade from XP.

Honestly, if 15GB is a pinch, they probably shouldn't be installing 7. They should be getting a new computer.

Of course I agree, however I have lots of pensioners living close who are using computer bought several years ago when Hard Drives of 10 or 20gb were the norm. Some of these pensioners are still even using Windows 98SE. To be fair most only use the computer to access the internet or send a few e-mails. To try to persuade them to buy new computers would be difficult, but they see adverts for Windows 7 and think they can simply upgrade.
 

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windows 7 64 bit
I noticed that a clean installation of windows 7 64 bit uses 15gb of hard drive is this usual. If so I feel sorry for people with small hard drives who hope to upgrade from XP.

Hi there
probably a non issue -- even laptops from a few years ago have around 100GB hard drives -- and with cheap HDD's available this isn't really an issue for most people I would have thought.

Computers only having 20GB HDD's are actually quite old and most probably were made when Windows 98 was common. - Pensioners aren't always as un-savvy and lacking in Funds as one might think --not to say that there are of course others for which price is a very serious consideration.

In the main however this isn't an issue -- if your computer only has a 20GB HDD it probably won't have more than 512 KB RAM -- I'd recommend in this case the machine be left as it is. Paying 140 USD or so for a "Windows 7 Upgrade" to use on this type of machine doesn't make much sense when for around 250 - 300 USD you could get a cheap NEW machine with W7 already installed.

Incidentally if you visit your local TIP you could pick up a decent serviceable deskop for ZILCH.

I'm running 2 W2K3 Servers on 2 Machines I "Liberated" from a Tip in South London UK when I was visiting a large Client in Croydon S. London for a few days.

(Well with Copenhagen talks on - I can do my own piece of "Re-cycling too").

Works fine. Pic enclosed. - But then I'm a cheapskate --have to be now as our Banks have NO MONEY LEFT.

BTW it's not actually that difficult to replace a HDD on a laptop -- or at least most laptops. In the rare case where it's hard you'll see at a stroke whether it's do-able or not.

On Desktops usually no prob whatsoever to change / add a new one.

HDD's are REALLY CHEAP - even 2.5 inch 320GB / 500 GB laptop one's (SATA).

Enc of where I "Liberated" 2 Desktops from.

Cheers
jimbo.
 

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Custom built, several laptops HP/ASUS
OS
Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
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Intel i7 Intel i5
Memory
8GB, 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
On Motherboard
Sound Card
Realtek HD audio
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Apple Cinema display, Samsung LCD
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1920 X 1080
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4 X 1TB SATA
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Toshiba wireless laser
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> 20MB up
I noticed that a clean installation of windows 7 64 bit uses 15gb of hard drive is this usual. If so I feel sorry for people with small hard drives who hope to upgrade from XP.

Honestly, if 15GB is a pinch, they probably shouldn't be installing 7. They should be getting a new computer.

Of course I agree, however I have lots of pensioners living close who are using computer bought several years ago when Hard Drives of 10 or 20gb were the norm. Some of these pensioners are still even using Windows 98SE. To be fair most only use the computer to access the internet or send a few e-mails. To try to persuade them to buy new computers would be difficult, but they see adverts for Windows 7 and think they can simply upgrade.

For what your "clients" are looking to do there are a number of schemes getting of the ground presently that should allow pensioners to get on line for web and email for free or very low cost - check with your local council or other support agencies to see if and when these schemes will apply to your area
 

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  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
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    BitDefender Total Security Pro
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    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
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    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
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