2 more day (ram-problem)

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2 more day, and I will recieve my new SSD, and then I'll install a new 7127 64bit. But I can't figure out why it does not use the available ram?

It seems to just want to use 2 GB, or in some rare chases 2.5 GB) ram, and then it begins to unload other things from memory. Why not use the available ram as disk-cache, .dll's or something else?

I have tried my system wtih 4 GB (2x2GB) and with 6GB (2x2GB + 2x1GB), but it seems the 2 GB limit is about the same, Can it be something I have done wrong when installing it?
Has it something to do with a program or a driver running in 32bit mode?
There seems to absolutely no difference between 4GB and 6GB, disk-cache, or anything else, so what can be wrong?
I want to do a good install once I have my SSD :D
 

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Hello Sven,

Check in your BIOS settings to see if you have "Memory Remapping" enabled.

If you do, then see if you have the latest BIOS version installed (flashed) for you motherboard model and revision number? Sometimes this may address the issue.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 
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Just interested ... What does "memory remapping" do?
I don't have this in my BIOS (GIGABYTE DS4 mobo), what else can it be called?

Sorry I can't help you, Sven, but I'm a newbee trying to learn all I can, and therefore I "use" your thread :)
 

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Hello Burgurne, and welcome to Seven Forums.

Not all motherboards will support and have this feature, but the memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. You can read more detailed information about it at these links:

Coding Horror: Dude, Where's My 4 Gigabytes of RAM?

and

The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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Hello Brink.
Thank you for your answer, but your links is about 32bit Windows7 and I have a 64bit version (see picture taken when I have 4GB ram in PC).
I do have these settings in BIOS, that I don't know about. Maybe it is one of them making the issue?
"No execute memory protect" - Enabled
"Virtualization Technology" - Enabled
"HPET support" - Enabled
"HPET mode" - 64bit
 

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Hello Brink.
Maybe it is one of them making the issue?
"No execute memory protect" - Enabled
"Virtualization Technology" - Enabled
"HPET support" - Enabled
"HPET mode" - 64bit

None of the above.

HPET is 'power management' related for Vista/7.

No execute memory protect is protection against buffer overflow attacks.

Virtualization Tech is, well, for running OS's in a virtual environment.


I'd update the BIOS as suggested, but can see no mention of 'memory remapping' in your boards manual?
 

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I agree with Scaramonga. I would check to make sure that you have the latest BIOS version installed. It may have a update that addresses this issue.
 

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No BIOS update available. Well, there is a beta BIOS, but they warn you to use it with an "everyday" PC.
 

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What do you have showing in System Information and Task Manager (Ctrl+Shfit+Esc) for total RAM?

If you do not see the amount of RAM that you have installed at these locations as well, then also see if reseting the BIOS to default setting may help.
 

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Right now I have 4GB installed, and Task Manager shows this:
Total: 4094 MB
Cached: 246
Available: 2960
Free: 2770

Kernel Memory
Paged: 162
Nonpaged: 76

It seems as it can see all of the 4Gb, but it just don't want to use it for some reason.

PS: I have tried to Load Default Setting in BIOS to see if that changes anything, but no ...
 

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kinda like this screen shot?

used 1442 - available 8797?
 

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I am experiencing the same situation. I'll let you know if i can find a solution. I hope you'll do the same.

@IWhine: Thanks but Gigabyte's list is far from exclusive and predates 2gb memory modules. However, the board is supposed to be able to support 8gb according to their site. Else i wouldn't have bothered.

My config:
P35 ds4 rev. 1.1
I have 6gb installed 2x1gb corsair xms2 ddr2 i bought with the main board and 2x2gb corsair xms2 ddr2 i bought just now. Both are 6400 c5 by default. No tweaks.
4gb is recognized by task manager. Physically, the modules are connected thus: 1gb-2gb-1gb-2gb.
No tweaks applied.
I mostly need the 6gb to run some virtual machines.
It may very well be a windows 7 rc issue but i can't check with a 64bit vista.
 

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Hello Whatdoesitwant, and welcome to Seven Forums.

Looking at your Task Manager screenshot, it does show that you have 6 GB of RAM "Total". It looks like it is reporting it correctly to me. :)

Shawn
 

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Riiight. I was looking at the numbers and not at the image. So basicly, it's saying that it is already using 2,12gb of ram for some basic stuff running windows 7 and this is not a part of but apart from the 3968mb that is labeled as available (beschikbaar)? That's a nice mistake in my interpretation. :o Thanks for pointing it out to me Shawn. I'd been staring at my screen for a bit longer than what could be considered as healthy.
 

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LOL, I hear you. I've actually fell asleep at the keyboard a few times. :o

Not sure why it is not reported in your System screen, but as long as it is showing properly in Task Manager, you're good to go. :)
 

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Don't let him fool you - he's built himself a nice head cradle for situations just like these....
 

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LOL, it even plays music. ;)
 

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