2X2gb ram = bsod

[Alexa W]

this has gone on a while now. i originally brought 2 ramsticks, one of them worked on its own, but the other didnt. i sent it back, brought a new one, and i'm still having problems...
the bsods that come up are 'IRQL_NOT_OR_LESS_EQUA'L, 'MEMORY_MANAGEMENT' and 'page fault in non paged area'

also certain programs dont run properly, such as avast or internet explorer (FF works fine) and the computer comes up with errors for various dlls.

I'm running:
asus m4n72-e motherboard
AMD athlon II X2 250 processor
2 X 9500gt graphics cards
on a windows 7 ultimate 64 bit OS

running the one ramstick is fine, but i would really like to be able to run them both without these errors..
I've attached my latest dump file

ps: i have updated my bios to the latest found (december)
thanks in advance

 

[DocBrown]

Are they the same brand & speed, etc ?

 

[Alexa W]

yes they are, exactly the same.

 

[ickymay]

yes they are, exactly the same.

what make and model please ?

and are you overclocking I have your cpu coming up as an AMD clocked at 3ghz ?

uninstall Asus probe the driver is old and likely to cause issues

AsIO.sys fffff880`02df9000 fffff880`02e00000 0x00007000 0x47663d55 17/12/2007 09:11:49

 

[DocBrown]

Do you have them in the correct slots as per the MB manual ?

 

[Alexa W]

yes i do, tried both positions with my original batch, currently they are in slots 2 and 4.

the make and model of the ramsticks are:samsung k4t1go44qa-zce7
one stick works fine, just dont see why they both cant work at the same time.

 

[DocBrown]

I am not an expert on analizing Dump files, we need one of our specialists to look at you dump file. I will see if I can get one to look at this.

 

[Alexa W]

yes they are, exactly the same.

what make and model please ?

and are you overclocking I have your cpu coming up as an AMD clocked at 3ghz ?

uninstall Asus probe the driver is old and likely to cause issues

AsIO.sys fffff880`02df9000 fffff880`02e00000 0x00007000 0x47663d55 17/12/2007 09:11:49

the cpu was clocked at 3ghz automatically.
also i notice i installed that today to see if it would help... shouldnt have much effect on the ram

 

[ickymay]

yes i do, tried both positions with my original batch, currently they are in slots 2 and 4.

the make and model of the ramsticks are:samsung k4t1go44qa-zce7
one stick works fine, just dont see why they both cant work at the same time.

thats the chipset number of the ram , do you know the part number it's likely to start M3.............. , im trying to find the timings the ram works at and see if it matches up with the bios on the mobo

heres the View attachment 53963 compatibility list

 

[zigzag3143]

this has gone on a while now. i originally brought 2 ramsticks, one of them worked on its own, but the other didnt. i sent it back, brought a new one, and i'm still having problems...
the bsods that come up are 'IRQL_NOT_OR_LESS_EQUA'L, 'MEMORY_MANAGEMENT' and 'page fault in non paged area'

also certain programs dont run properly, such as avast or internet explorer (FF works fine) and the computer comes up with errors for various dlls.

I'm running:
asus m4n72-e motherboard
AMD athlon II X2 250 processor
2 X 9500gt graphics cards
on a windows 7 ultimate 64 bit OS

running the one ramstick is fine, but i would really like to be able to run them both without these errors..
I've attached my latest dump file

ps: i have updated my bios to the latest found (december)
thanks in advance

Hi Alexa

The cause of this one is still memory. when you buy memory you have to buy a matched pair. Even if the single stick has the same exact specs it may not work In this case they dont. I strongly suspect either the ram or a bad ram slot

Usual causes: Defective hardware (particularly memory - but not just RAM), Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS


I would
download memtestx86 and run for 5 passes. You may have to do it 1 stick at a time but first do it with all memory in.

Run a system file check
type cmd in search>right click and run as admin>sfc scannow

If you are overclocking STOP

If you need help let us know

Ken

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.11.0001.404 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Users\K\Desktop\021410-23337-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: SRV*d:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is: 
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (2 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7600.16385.amd64fre.win7_rtm.090713-1255
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02a11000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02c4ee50
Debug session time: Sat Feb 13 19:00:41.428 2010 (GMT-5)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:02:00.129
Loading Kernel Symbols
...............................................................
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Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
......
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*                                                                             *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 50, {fffff8a042c4b440, 0, fffff80002bb4f8c, 5}


Could not read faulting driver name
Probably caused by : Pool_Corruption ( nt!ExDeferredFreePool+100 )

Followup: Pool_corruption
---------

0: kd> !analyze -v
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*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *
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PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
Invalid system memory was referenced.  This cannot be protected by try-except,
it must be protected by a Probe.  Typically the address is just plain bad or it
is pointing at freed memory.
Arguments:
Arg1: fffff8a042c4b440, memory referenced.
Arg2: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
Arg3: fffff80002bb4f8c, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
    address.
Arg4: 0000000000000005, (reserved)

Debugging Details:
------------------


Could not read faulting driver name

READ_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80002cb90e0
 fffff8a042c4b440 

FAULTING_IP: 
nt!ExDeferredFreePool+100
fffff800`02bb4f8c 4c8b02          mov     r8,qword ptr [rdx]

MM_INTERNAL_CODE:  5

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR:  0x50

PROCESS_NAME:  lsass.exe

CURRENT_IRQL:  0

TRAP_FRAME:  fffff88006877810 -- (.trap 0xfffff88006877810)
NOTE: The trap frame does not contain all registers.
Some register values may be zeroed or incorrect.
rax=fffff8a002c58000 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=fffffa8003c5fc50
rdx=fffff8a042c4b440 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=fffff80002bb4f8c rsp=fffff880068779a0 rbp=0000000000000002
 r8=fffff8a042c4b440  r9=0000000000000000 r10=fffff8a002c588b0
r11=0000000000000001 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000
r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000
iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na po nc
nt!ExDeferredFreePool+0x100:
fffff800`02bb4f8c 4c8b02          mov     r8,qword ptr [rdx] ds:fffff8a0`42c4b440=????????????????
Resetting default scope

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from fffff80002b00b91 to fffff80002a82f00

STACK_TEXT:  
fffff880`068776a8 fffff800`02b00b91 : 00000000`00000050 fffff8a0`42c4b440 00000000`00000000 fffff880`06877810 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff880`068776b0 fffff800`02a80fee : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000003 fffff8a0`00e7f800 fffff8a0`02c46060 : nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x40f5b
fffff880`06877810 fffff800`02bb4f8c : 00000000`00000001 fffff800`02d51c6f fffff880`06877ca0 00000000`011fea8c : nt!KiPageFault+0x16e
fffff880`068779a0 fffff800`02bb64c1 : 00000000`00000001 fffff8a0`02c46000 fffffa80`061f7620 fffff8a0`02c46000 : nt!ExDeferredFreePool+0x100
fffff880`06877a30 fffff800`02a880bc : fffff8a0`02c46030 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`656b6f54 fffffa80`03c69f30 : nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+0x411
fffff880`06877ae0 fffff800`02d96194 : fffffa80`0647b060 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`061f7620 00000000`00000000 : nt!ObfDereferenceObject+0xdc
fffff880`06877b40 fffff800`02d96094 : 00000000`00000590 fffffa80`0647b060 fffff8a0`00d2fe20 00000000`00000590 : nt!ObpCloseHandleTableEntry+0xc4
fffff880`06877bd0 fffff800`02a82153 : fffffa80`061f7620 fffff880`06877ca0 00000000`011fec90 00000000`011fec90 : nt!ObpCloseHandle+0x94
fffff880`06877c20 00000000`77b4ffaa : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
00000000`011feb38 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x77b4ffaa


STACK_COMMAND:  kb

FOLLOWUP_IP: 
nt!ExDeferredFreePool+100
fffff800`02bb4f8c 4c8b02          mov     r8,qword ptr [rdx]

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  3

SYMBOL_NAME:  nt!ExDeferredFreePool+100

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  Pool_corruption

IMAGE_NAME:  Pool_Corruption

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  0

MODULE_NAME: Pool_Corruption

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x50_nt!ExDeferredFreePool+100

BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x50_nt!ExDeferredFreePool+100

Followup: Pool_corruption
---------

 

[Alexa W]

Hi Alexa

The cause of this one is still memory. when you buy memory you have to buy a matched pair. Even if the single stick has the same exact specs it may not work In this case they dont. I strongly suspect either the ram or a bad ram slot

Usual causes: Defective hardware (particularly memory - but not just RAM), Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS


I would
download memtestx86 and run for 5 passes. You may have to do it 1 stick at a time but first do it with all memory in.

Run a system file check
type cmd in search>right click and run as admin>sfc scannow

If you are overclocking STOP

If you need help let us know

Ken

I ran memtest on the original stick and it runs just fine i ran it till 50% on top bar. with both sticks in, it gets to 0% at 35% and freezes, or comes up with various errors and i have to restart the pc.
Im guessing i run the system file check with both sticks in... i doubt it would last long enough with the second stick in to get there :/

I have not overclocked. I was originally using something else for antivirus, but i thought that kept bringing up the errors, so i changed to avast.
My bios is up to date, and as far as im aware my harddrive is perfectly fine.
its a pretty new pc, besides the hdd, built at the end of january.

 

[Alexa W]

=ickymay;567429
thats the chipset number of the ram , do you know the part number it's likely to start M3.............. , im trying to find the timings the ram works at and see if it matches up with the bios on the mobo

cant find the name, but its currently timing at 400MHz
does it need to go up to 800MHz? how would i do that?
also how come slot 4 has more timings than slot 2?
btw, slot 4 is the 'faulty' one

also i tried running sfc /scannow, but it says i need to be an administrator, when im the only user... tried running in task manager, the cmd promt flashes up for a second and thats it...

 

[ickymay]

=ickymay;567429
thats the chipset number of the ram , do you know the part number it's likely to start M3.............. , im trying to find the timings the ram works at and see if it matches up with the bios on the mobo

cant find the name, but its currently timing at 400MHz
does it need to go up to 800MHz? how would i do that?
also how come slot 4 has more timings than slot 2?
btw, slot 4 is the 'faulty' one

also i tried running sfc /scannow, but it says i need to be an administrator, when im the only user... tried running in task manager, the cmd promt flashes up for a second and thats it...

the SPD tabs on CpuZ will show more relevant info

the 400mhz \ 800mhz are frequency not timings.

voltage and timings are what's relevant here, with many boards adding a second stick can change the timings slightly and you get instability

the timings showing are 6.6.6.18 , can you post a shot from the SPD tab for each ram slot ?

 

[Alexa W]

=ickymay;567429
thats the chipset number of the ram , do you know the part number it's likely to start M3.............. , im trying to find the timings the ram works at and see if it matches up with the bios on the mobo

cant find the name, but its currently timing at 400MHz
does it need to go up to 800MHz? how would i do that?
also how come slot 4 has more timings than slot 2?
btw, slot 4 is the 'faulty' one

also i tried running sfc /scannow, but it says i need to be an administrator, when im the only user... tried running in task manager, the cmd promt flashes up for a second and thats it...

the SPD tabs on CpuZ will show more relevant info

the 400mhz \ 800mhz are frequency not timings.

voltage and timings are what's relevant here, with many boards adding a second stick can change the timings slightly and you get instability

the timings showing are 6.6.6.18 , can you post a shot from the SPD tab for each ram slot ?

spd tab here:

 

[ickymay]

spd tab here:

On that SPD tab from CPUZ your slot 2 is being forced to run at 400MHZ as dual channel but it's not one of a matched pair ?

Using slots 2 and 4 is trying to run this ram as dual channel but you are running two sticks that arrived separately so have not been tested as running dual channel ?

If your going to run dual channel you need a matched pair and if one stick tests bad you send the pair back for replacement , If your going to run dual channel you would be better using slots 1 and 3.

have you tried running on separate channels by using slots 1 and 2 ?

Also if this was branded RAM it would show the manufacturer name as Samsung ?

 

[Alexa W]

spd tab here:

On that SPD tab from CPUZ your slot 2 is being forced to run at 400MHZ as dual channel but it's not one of a matched pair ?

Using slots 2 and 4 is trying to run this ram as dual channel but you are running two sticks that arrived separately so have not been tested as running dual channel ?

If your going to run dual channel you need a matched pair and if one stick tests bad you send the pair back for replacement , If your going to run dual channel you would be better using slots 1 and 3.

have you tried running on separate channels by using slots 1 and 2 ?

Also if this was branded RAM it would show the manufacturer name as Samsung ?

yeah i tried with the one i got with the working ram, but that failed, so i sent it back, and brought a new one from the same person. of course i wasnt gonna ask for another 2 ramsticks, just needed one. but this has same problems.
it says samsung on the chipset things...
i have tried using 1 and 3.

 

[ickymay]

yeah i tried with the one i got with the working ram, but that failed, so i sent it back, and brought a new one from the same person. of course i wasnt gonna ask for another 2 ramsticks, just needed one. but this has same problems.
it says samsung on the chipset things...
i have tried using 1 and 3.

I reckon you are definitely going to need to run these sticks on two different channels as they aren't a matched pair but I am not convinced this ram will work on your motherboard, however I wouldn't run out and buy new ram on the strength of this alone, so maybe try and borrow a matched pair to try or talk to your original supplier and let them know your problems ?

so how did running slots 1 and 3 turn out ?

I suggest use slots 1 and 2 and run memtest86, if you get any errors then you have either a ram stick problem or a slot problem or you voltage requirement is higher than the bios is setting ?

have you asked your local tech for help on this ?

 

[Alexa W]

well usually i would have it running on slot 3, but using the error ramstick on its own would last a few hours before going bsod... with the other stick as well in slot 1 at the same time it would last about 6 or so hours without bsod... i can try running them on 1 and 2, but it would probably do the same as running on 1 and 3.
my stepdad IS my local techie usually i havn't needed to ask for help beside him or looking on forums for answers when he's NOT around.

 

[zigzag3143]

well usually i would have it running on slot 3, but using the error ramstick on its own would last a few hours before going bsod... with the other stick as well in slot 1 at the same time it would last about 6 or so hours without bsod... i can try running them on 1 and 2, but it would probably do the same as running on 1 and 3.
my stepdad IS my local techie usually i havn't needed to ask for help beside him or looking on forums for answers when he's NOT around.

Alexa

Just stopped in to see how it is going and windered if with both sticks in it BSOD's in safe mode (F8). We might be missing something obvious.

Let us know


Ken