A new build,opinons?

[Minotar]

I was looking into building a new desktop from scratch,i bought my current one pre made and was planning on upgrading it but decided that id save up and build a newer better one.
Im using a new shop i found, Komplett.ie - Webshop for PC components, Sound & Vision, Digital Imaging and Gaming
It has mainly the same things as Overclockers UK buts a little bit cheaper becasue i can collect to save delivery costs (its only in Blanchardstown,Dublin) and i can get everything quicker and dont need a laser/credit card which can be a pain.
The spec i was going for was:
Product Type Price
MotherBoard Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5,X58 €216.11
Case Antec Nine Hundred Midi Tower Black €89.62
DVD Drive Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-S223C (X2) €43.82
Grahics Card Asus Radeon HD 5750 - 1 GB €135.94
Hard Drive Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 7200RPM €71.70
Hard Drive 2 Seagate 500GB 7200RPM Already Have
Memory Crucial DDR3 6GB 1333MHZ €144.40
Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop LX710 Laser €58.76
Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop LX710 Laser Included^
Monitor Iiyama Pro Lite LCD display 24" (X2) €374.44
Power Supply Corsair TX 650W PSU €82.66
Processor Intel Core i7 Quad Processor i7-860 (2.88Ghz) €259
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (PCI) €58.76
Cables Serial ATA cable 50cm (x2) €10
2 metre PoweCable €3.98

€1,549.19

So,any massive oversights or something that would be better?
You can compare off my old spec in the System spec tab.

I tried to make the above more readable but the forum is taking the spaces out on me


Cheers
Dan

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Powerful, near cutting edge machine, no problem as is.

A few comments:

As a matter of preference, I'd go with a modular PSU, and maybe drop back to 500 to 600 watts if it would save you anything. Seasonic makes modulars and I think some of them are marketed under Corsair's name.

Unless you have overclocking intentions, I'd stay with 1066 RAM, rather than 1333. I don't know what particular Crucial part you planned on, but I wouldn't go with Ballistic series or anything fancy if not overclocking.

The Antec 300 is a lower priced and well-regarded alternative to the 900 if the savings will help you out.

As a general principle due to their abominable driver support, I hate to see anyone give Creative Labs any money.

Assuming your choices are within your budget and that level of power is a requirement, you done good.

You may well get a lot of anecdotal comments regarding personal experience with particular brands. I would pay little to no attention to them. You have chosen good brands.

 

[Minotar]

Powerful, near cutting edge machine, no problem as is.

A few comments:

As a matter of preference, I'd go with a modular PSU, and maybe drop back to 500 to 600 watts if it would save you anything. Seasonic makes modulars and I think some of them are marketed under Corsair's name.

Im afraid i dont have a clue what modular is,or why its different,there is a 500W for about half the price ( Komplett.ie - AXP Powersupply ATX 500W Retail, ) but i have a thing,do it once,do it right.

Unless you have overclocking intentions, I'd stay with 1066 RAM, rather than 1333. I don't know what particular Crucial part you planned on, but I wouldn't go with Ballistic series or anything fancy if not overclocking.

The one i intend to buy is Komplett.ie - Crucial DDR3 1333MHz 6GB KIT CL9
Its not exactly fancy but i more than likely will overclock.Is there a disadvantage from 1333 to 1066?

The Antec 300 is a lower priced and well-regarded alternative to the 900 if the savings will help you out.

I would but they only stock the 900 and the 1200 unfortunatly

As a general principle due to their abominable driver support, I hate to see anyone give Creative Labs any money.

LOL,i could always go with their Tera range ( Komplett.ie - TerraTec SoundSystem Aureon 5.1 PCI ) but i never heard of them before and was a bit wary.

Assuming your choices are within your budget and that level of power is a requirement, you done good.

Thanks,appreciate the constructive comments

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Modular PSU cables are detachable.

You only use the ones you need. The result is less clutter and somewhat improved airflow.

Some of Corsair and Seasonic's models are modular. Some are not. The item description typically says "modular" if they are.

Let me check out your RAM and report back.

Give a thought to possibly replacing your standard fans.

If you overclock the CPU, you have well need an aftermarket heatsink. These things are typically tall and heavy, but you have to endure that if you do a significant overclock.

Look for heatsink names at your supplier like:

Scythe
Xigmatek
Arctic Cooling
Tuniq
and a few others; what brands are available?

Fans: (for both exhaust on the back of the case and for your heatsink if it doesn't include one). Good brands:

Scythe
Nexus
Yate Loon

What brands do you have access to?

Find out what size exhaust fan you have (120 mm or 90mm or ?). You can accept the included fan and replace it later if too loud.

Rule of thumb:

Lean toward larger and low RPM fans whenever possible. Fast fans lead to noise and may not be needed at all.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Modular Corsair power supplies at your supplier:

Komplett.ie

I assume your budget is not tight; given that:

Stick with your first choice

Or

Komplett.ie - Corsair HX 650W PSU

This is one of the Corsair modulars. Same 650 watts as your choice, but modular and "bronze" certified, which means it reaches certain power efficiency standards and therefore might save you a few bucks a year in power consumed.

Flip a coin, depending on whim and how much cable clutter bothers you. It might if you are inside the case a lot.

 

[Minotar]

Modular PSU cables are detachable.

You only use the ones you need. The result is less clutter and somewhat improved airflow.

Some of Corsair and Seasonic's models are modular. Some are not. The item description typically says "modular" if they are.

Let me check out your RAM and report back.

Ah,thank you for the info.

Give a thought to possibly replacing your standard fans.

Will do,id just like to see how the standard ones perform,it comes with three 120mm fans and a top-mounted 200mm fan with mounting options for more fans,and apprently has 3 optios for the fans,and one person left a review saying he overclocked his i7 to 4Ghz (possible?) and still has it on the lowest setting

If you overclock the CPU, you have well need an aftermarket heatsink. These things are typically tall and heavy, but you have to endure that if you do a significant overclock.

Look for heatsink names at your supplier like:

Scythe
Xigmatek
Arctic Cooling
Tuniq
and a few others; what brands are available?

I shouldnt think i shall be going too far past the standard Ghz so i wasnt pushed on a heatsink.
There manufactors are
Akasa (11)
Zalman (10)
Noctua (8)
Scythe (7)
Spire (5)
Thermalright (5)
Xigmatek (4)
Cooler Master (3)
Nexus (3)
Asetek (1)
NorthQ (1)
Thermaltake (1)
And those which fit the socket type,Komplett.ie - CPU.

Fans: (for both exhaust on the back of the case and for your heatsink if it doesn't include one). Good brands:

Scythe
Nexus
Yate Loon

What brands do you have access to?

Find out what size exhaust fan you have (120 mm or 90mm or ?). You can accept the included fan and replace it later if too loud.

Rule of thumb:

Lean toward larger and low RPM fans whenever possible. Fast fans lead to noise and may not be needed at all.

Noctua (6)
Nexus (4)
NorthQ (4)
Akasa (3)
Scythe (3)
NOISEBLOCKER (2)
Zalman (2)
Papst (1)

Im pretty sure the exhaist fan is 120mm with the 200mm on top

Modular Corsair power supplies at your supplier:

Komplett.ie

I assume your budget is not tight; given that:

Stick with your first choice

Or

Komplett.ie - Corsair HX 650W PSU

This is one of the Corsair modulars. Same 650 watts as your choice, but modular and "bronze" certified, which means it reaches certain power efficiency standards and therefore might save you a few bucks a year in power consumed.

Flip a coin, depending on whim and how much cable clutter bothers you. It might if you are inside the case a lot.

Thanks again

I do tend to spend a good bit of time inside my pc,de to trying to,more often than not,fix other pc's from family,friends and family friends ,so i can plug the hd's in to make sure they are not at fault.

But again,it really wouldnt bother me too much but it would seem the better option to go for the modular.

The idea behind the build is to do it once,do it right,allow for upgrades and able to handle overclocking,the newest software and games simutaineously (sp?) as i usally have a lot of big programs open(games/adobe photoshop etc)

 

[whs]

I would add a little 30Gb OCZ Vertex for Windows7. That would give you an unbelievable speed boost (read the comments on the link) - and 30GIG is enough for only the OS. Make sure it has firmware level 1.4 which has Trim support. Else you'll have to flash it to get 1.4.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I searched Crucial.com and used their configurator for your motherboard.

The only choice for that mobo is "revision 1.0", which I can only assume is what you have chosen. The Crucial configurator is usually very up to date, so I assume there is no "version 2.0".

With that caveat, here is the Crucial RAM that is compatible with your board:

Computer memory upgrades for Giga-Byte GA-EX58-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Motherboard from Crucial.com


There are 12 different 6 gig kits listed.

Of those 12:

1 is 1066 speed; this is what I would get if not overclocking.

6 are 1333 speed; suitable for overclocking;

5 are 1600 speed; suitable for even more serious overclocking;

1333 is aka PC-10600

1600 is aka PC-12800

The higher priced stuff in any speed category likely has tighter timings and would likely allow marginally I say marginally higher performance that might be noticeable only on a benchmark.

Unless you are rabid about overclocking, I would get a mid range kit within the 1333 speed.

You can see the RAM timings expressed on the Crucial page like this:

8-8-8-24 or 7-7-7-24.

Price range for all 1333 and 1600 is from $194 to $230 in this country, so it isn't a wide variation.


The RAM you have chosen has this Crucial part number: CT3KIT25664BA1339. It is on the Crucial compatible list for you motherboard. It is PC3-10600 and should allow for some overclocking.

Here is the direct Crucial link:

6GB kit (2GBx3), 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-10600 upgrades for Giga-Byte GA-EX58-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Motherboard, CT911419 from Crucial.com

So you look OK on RAM, assuming you have no intention of breaking world records.

 

[Minotar]

I would add a little 30Gb OCZ Vertex for Windows7. That would give you an unbelievable speed boost (read the comments on the link) - and 30GIG is enough for only the OS. Make sure it has firmware level 1.4 which has Trim support. Else you'll have to flash it to get 1.4.

They're is this option as they dont stock SSD's for OCZ.Would it really make that much of a difference?Ive never used an SSD before so you'll have to enlighten me as to why id spend more for an SSD woth 32GB than a 1TB 7200rpm HD?
Komplett.ie - Corsair SSD Extreme X32 2,5" 32GB

 

[Minotar]

I searched Crucial.com and used their configurator for your motherboard.

The only choice for that mobo is "revision 1.0", which I can only assume is what you have chosen. The Crucial configurator is usually very up to date, so I assume there is no "version 2.0".

With that caveat, here is the Crucial RAM that is compatible with your board:

Computer memory upgrades for Giga-Byte GA-EX58-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Motherboard from Crucial.com


There are 12 different 6 gig kits listed.

Of those 12:

1 is 1066 speed; this is what I would get if not overclocking.

6 are 1333 speed; suitable for overclocking;

5 are 1600 speed; suitable for even more serious overclocking;

1333 is aka PC-10600

1600 is aka PC-12800

The higher priced stuff in any speed category likely has tighter timings and would likely allow marginally I say marginally higher performance that might be noticeable only on a benchmark.

Unless you are rabid about overclocking, I would get a mid range kit within the 1333 speed.

You can see the RAM timings expressed on the Crucial page like this:

8-8-8-24 or 7-7-7-24.

Price range for all 1333 and 1600 is from $194 to $230 in this country, so it isn't a wide variation.


The RAM you have chosen has this Crucial part number: CT3KIT25664BA1339. It is on the Crucial compatible list for you motherboard. It is PC3-10600 and should allow for some overclocking.

Here is the direct Crucial link:

6GB kit (2GBx3), 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-10600 upgrades for Giga-Byte GA-EX58-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Motherboard, CT911419 from Crucial.com

So you look OK on RAM, assuming you have no intention of breaking world records.

Thanks for all the info,really appreciate this.

The ram sounds perfect for what i need,a little tweaking is all i wanted.
An no,not out to break world records hehe

 

[Zidane24]

Got to really hand it to Windows 7 Forums - View Profile: ignatzatsonic in this thread...

Thought I would jump in but his recommendations are spot on what I would say

 

[Frostmourne]

Your build won't work - you are matching an X58/1366 LGA motherboard with an 1156LGA/P55 CPU. The RAM is wrong too - for that processor you need dual not triple channel. I would also go for a cheaper AMD build.

 

[Minotar]

Got to really hand it to Windows 7 Forums - View Profile: ignatzatsonic in this thread...

Thought I would jump in but his recommendations are spot on what I would say

Indeed,i wasnt expecting a reply of this calibre at all,and its very much appreciated

Pity i cant give him anymore rep,must have given him some last week

 

[Frostmourne]

As above - this needs reconfiguring.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Just looked at your supplier.

I do see the Antec 300:

Komplett.ie - Antec Three Hundred Midi Tower Black

As an aside, case gurus seem to think very highly of the Antec Solo:

Komplett.ie - Antec Solo Miditower, Piano

A bit cheaper than the 900.

The Solo gets quite high marks for being a quiet case.

Too many openings in a case is often just a way for noise to escape. Cases often run just as cool with fewer holes if the fans are appropriate. I personally would avoid vents on the top side.

If noise typically does not bother you, then go with your first choice. Antec generally gets high marks, but some are quieter than others.

 

[Zidane24]

As above - this needs reconfiguring.

+1 to frostmourne...in the heat of the moment that detail was overlooked

He is correct...if I was you Minotaur I would consider going up to an 920

 

[whs]

I would add a little 30Gb OCZ Vertex for Windows7. That would give you an unbelievable speed boost (read the comments on the link) - and 30GIG is enough for only the OS. Make sure it has firmware level 1.4 which has Trim support. Else you'll have to flash it to get 1.4.

They're is this option as they dont stock SSD's for OCZ.Would it really make that much of a difference?Ive never used an SSD before so you'll have to enlighten me as to why id spend more for an SSD woth 32GB than a 1TB 7200rpm HD?
Komplett.ie - Corsair SSD Extreme X32 2,5" 32GB

Well, I have 2 SSDs. One OCZ 60GB Vertex and an Intel 80GB. The speed boost is absolutely amazing (and I have only an old AMD 4800+ CPU on one system and a Q6600 on another system). Boot times of 12 sec are common and program calls are instant. Data access time is a few nanoseconds versus 15 to 20ms on a spinning disk (that is thousands of times slower). And data transfer rates are over 200MB/sec sequential read versus a typical 50 to 70MB on rotating disks. One guy reported 600MBs with a quad Raid0.

On the picture note that the program cannot report access times in nanoseconds. 0.1ms is the smallest unit it knows.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Frostmourne could be right.

I haven't even looked at the mobo and assumed Minotaur had already scoped that out.

If you are locked into that mobo, you may have to switch processors.

If you are locked into that processor, you may have to switch mobos.

 

[Minotar]

Your build won't work - you are matching an X58/1366 LGA motherboard with an 1156LGA/P55 CPU. The RAM is wrong too - for that processor you need dual not triple channel. I would also go for a cheaper AMD build.

Thanks for pointing that out,i can use the i7 920 2.66Ghz and just overclock it i suppose,i could go for the i7 940 but for the extra .30mhz id prefer not to pay an extra €150

Will the triple channel work with the 920?

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Frostmourne]

Frostmourne could be right.

I haven't even looked at the mobo and assumed Minotaur had already scoped that out.

If you are locked into that mobo, you may have to switch processors.

If you are locked into that processor, you may have to switch mobos.

Have to - 1156 does not go into 1366, and neither does dual or triple channel. AMD can also be a bit cheaper.