Advice before installing new CPU

[OneSerious]

Right then,

I've just ordered a new Phenom II x4 3.4 965 Black Edition CPU. Before I get it fitted I would just like a bit of advice. The current mother board is GA-M61PME-S2P from what I've read this mobo will support the new processor, but I've read on other sites that the CPU may suffer performance wise due to the mobo. Basically I want to know would it be better for me to hold off and get a new mobo before going ahead with this? or should the current board support it fine? Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[torrentg]

What kind of advice would you like?

I mean, handle the cpu gently on its sides, use good thermal grease like Arctic Silver or similar and apply it evenly/thinly, don't force anything etc...

Anything specific you'd like to know?

 

[OneSerious]

What kind of advice would you like?

I mean, handle the cpu gently on its sides, use good thermal grease like Arctic Silver or similar and apply it evenly/thinly, don't force anything etc...

Anything specific you'd like to know?

Sorry if I wasn't so clear, not regarding the actual installation. Before I bother to install it I'm wanting to know if it's good to go with the current mobo. I've read that albeit these things say they are forward compatible that the newer CPU's may not perform so good.

Don't want to install it only to find it doesn't perform well and have to switch the mobo after.

Really just want to see if anybody else has had experiance with this and confirm if the work together ok.

 

[Mercurial]

clean the fans... you wont be able to clean it till you buy an new CPU I think XD

 

[Orpheous]

Your motherboards performance is for the most part determined by it's chipset:
NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset
Newer chipset will perform much better, but you'll most likely also need to outlay for new DDR3 RAM.
Look for something with either a 785 or a 790 chipset, to suit your budget

 

[stormy13]

from what I've read this mobo will support the new processor

Not according to Gigabyte it isn't,

GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - CPU Support List - GA-M61PME-S2P (rev. 1.0)



That isn't to say that it won't work. If it does about the only thing that will happen is that it won't be identified correctly in the bios or by Windows, it should still run at the correct speed though.

As Orpheous said, with that CPU you would be much better off getting a new AM3/DDR3 motherboard to use it on. Something like this,

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA785GT-UD3H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

would do nicely, and not to expensive.

 

[OneSerious]

I just noticed this today actually. A new mobo it is, that one linked would probably do the job. Cheers guys.

 

[stormy13]

Don't forget if you get a board that uses DDR3 you'll need new ram as well. If you do go for that board make sure to go here,

GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-MA785GT-UD3H (rev. 1.0)

and check the memory compatibility list. Nothing saying that ram not on the list won't work, but better if you can get stuff that is for compatibilities sake.

 

[OneSerious]

Don't forget if you get a board that uses DDR3 you'll need new ram as well. If you do go for that board make sure to go here,

GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-MA785GT-UD3H (rev. 1.0)

and check the memory compatibility list. Nothing saying that ram not on the list won't work, but better if you can get stuff that is for compatibilities sake.

Dammit, this CPU will near enough end up being a new build. Awk well. Next thing I know I'll need a new PSU to run it all.

What about this board? Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

As for RAM, would this do the job? Corsair XMS3 TwinX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit seems a bit pricey.

Sorry for all the questions but I don't know a great deal about all this stuff.

 

[MrMephitis]

Dammit, this CPU will near enough end up being a new build. Awk well. Next thing I know I'll need a new PSU to run it all.

What about this board? Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

As for RAM, would this do the job? Corsair XMS3 TwinX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit seems a bit pricey.

Sorry for all the questions but I don't know a great deal about all this stuff.

I'm using this board at the moment and have had no problems whatsoever, it's quite a nice little board in my opinion.

 

[OneSerious]

I'm using this board at the moment and have had no problems whatsoever, it's quite a nice little board in my opinion.

That's good enough for me. Think I'll go for this to be honest.

The only thing now is RAM. Can you tell me which RAM the mobo supports, because I see here there is,

DDR3 Tri Channel PC3 16000+
DDR3 Tri Channel PC3 14400+
DDR3 Tri Channel PC3 112800
DDR3 Tri Channel PC3 10666
DDR3 Dual Channel PC3 14400+
DDR3 Dual Channel PC3 12800
DDR3 Dual Channel PC3 10666

Again. sorry for so many questions but it's late, I'm not up to scratch on this stuff I don't want to end up buying parts that's not going to work.

Thanks again.

 

[Orpheous]

That's good enough for me. Think I'll go for this to be honest.

The only thing now is RAM. Can you tell me which RAM the mobo supports

I've attached the official Asus memory support list for that board for you

 

[OneSerious]

I've attached the official Asus memory support list for that board for you

Good man! Cheers mate

 

[OneSerious]

Thanks everybody for your help so far. Just one more question before I proceed.

Since I plan to replace my current mobo, CPU and RAM with these...

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
AMD Quad Core Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3
Corsair XMS3 TwinX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit

I know the new CPU is a higher wattage. For the life of me I can't find a number for the mobo.

I just wanted to make sure my PSU was big enough to take the new stuff. It's a 450W, which I know isn't particularly good.

I have my systems specs added so if somebody could compare the two and give me an idea of what power is needed I'd appreciate that. Thanks again!

I really need to get clued into these things.

 

[stormy13]

If this is the 450W Corsair that you list in your specs,

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies

you're good to go. In your case you have a very good 450W PSU that is better (in some cases a lot better) than a lot of cheap 600-700W PSU's.

 

[Adrian]

Don't forget if you get a board that uses DDR3 you'll need new ram as well. If you do go for that board make sure to go here,

GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-MA785GT-UD3H (rev. 1.0)

and check the memory compatibility list. Nothing saying that ram not on the list won't work, but better if you can get stuff that is for compatibilities sake.

Dammit, this CPU will near enough end up being a new build. Awk well. Next thing I know I'll need a new PSU to run it all.

What about this board? Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

As for RAM, would this do the job? Corsair XMS3 TwinX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit seems a bit pricey.

Sorry for all the questions but I don't know a great deal about all this stuff.

Kyle, before you attempt this project it may be wise to study up or have an experienced builder with you. From your shopping list you look to be spending $50 to $80 bucks in a 500-600 watt psu, the processor will cost you $125 to $150 and the Motherboard will run you $90 to $165 and ddr 3 memory is about $45 a gig, so you are looking to invest $400 to $500 bucks. Your existing rig looks pretty good now.
Decide what you need all this additional horsepower for, I perceive you are wanting to build a gaming machine?

 

[OneSerious]

If this is the 450W Corsair that you list in your specs,

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies

you're good to go. In your case you have a very good 450W PSU that is better (in some cases a lot better) than a lot of cheap 600-700W PSU's.

Just got home and had a look inside. The PSU I have is a HX450w Corsair Profesional Series.

 

[Orpheous]

Just got home and had a look inside. The PSU I have is a HX450w Corsair Profesional Series.

If you were planning a graphics card upgrade as well then I'd suggest a slightly higher wattage, but otherwise that Corsair will be enough for your build
Let us know how it all goes...

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Nothing at all wrong with that RAM, but you may be able to save a bit and still stay with reliable brands like Corsair, Kingston, or Crucial.

For peace of mind, stay with the specific choices on the supported RAM list supplied earlier in this thread. Check around with your suppliers. It isn't likely you will ever notice the differences in timings. Find out your suppliers policy if your RAM is defective. You should test it thoroughly as soon as you finish the build with Memtest or a similar application.

That's a good high quality PSU and shouldn't give you any problems.

 

[OneSerious]

Thanks everybody for your replies, everyone has been very helpful. Picking up mobo and RAM soon and the build will get done after Christmas, will post how it goes when I'm done.

Thanks again!