After registry changes, Windows Defender cannot update

perrinjw

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I recently did an experiment and started a fresh 7 install, but with registry changes. All my programs are on a partition other than C, and so is the boot record, PowerShell, my user profile, and all Windows temp files. Some of these changes required updating the registry, while others merely required changing the Environment Variables.

Since I modified the registry and all my programs are on a separate partition, Windows Update cannot provide updates for Windows Defender; the updates just fail. All other updates work succesfully I tried to go into the registry to change the default install location for Windows Defender, but no option was available under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. From what I can tell, Windows Defender is not running at all.

Has anybody found a fix for this issue?
 

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I had a Defender issue kind of like that....Is your Event Viewer working? Mine was not and when I managed to Google a fix and tried it Defender came back as well as Event Viewer. It was a "permissions" thing..Maybe error 1042 on the viewer??? Maybe.....not?
 

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Apologies, but Im confused as to what the problem is, or more specifically .. Why?

Temp Folder & User Folders should require no registry editing what-so-ever.
Its all a location move, or Enviromental Variable Change pointing to a new location.

Programs should stay with the OS IMHO, but if you want them on another partition they can simply be installed to that location.


Hence the confusion about registry editing.
Why and what did you change in the registry?
 

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Did you log which keys you changed; the default values; and did you add any keys?
 

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A strong second to Rich's advice.
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Wishmaster - The temp files were not moved using a registry hack. It was the environment variables, as I stated.

CarlTR6 - I did not keep track of it, but did not add any keys. I based it on a google search, changed the default installer's location under three sections in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/software/windows.

As for the others: I really don't mind experimenting like this with the registry. I have three computers, all of which are entirely functional, so if one fails, I have two others to use temporarily. And it did need to be fixed, because the best-of-the-best backup software costs $$$ and every time I reinstall Windows I lose application settings, game save data, OS settings, updates, programs. If I have them on a separate partition, I at least know/have what needs to be restored. It's summer time, can't find work, and no school, so I didn't really mind taking a little risk and play around to see what I can do, after all; that's how people learn.
 

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320GB Internal, RAID drive
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What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
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Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.

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SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
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Doing anything in the Registry without setting a restore point is reckless and amateurish, not experimental.

+1 I agree. Though I have to confess that I have been guilty of doing that in the past.
 

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2.50 GB RAM
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NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
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SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
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ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
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1680 X 1050
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
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Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
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Logitec optic USB
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Doing anything in the Registry without setting a restore point is reckless and amateurish, not experimental.

+1 and creating a restore point is easy and quick.

Restore points work much, much better than in the Vista days, in my opinion.
 

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Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
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MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
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AMD A10-4600M
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AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
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1600x900@60Hz
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SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Doing anything in the Registry without setting a restore point is reckless and amateurish, not experimental.

+1 I agree. Though I have to confess that I have been guilty of doing that in the past.

I think we probably all have, Carl, which is why we can testify...

Same with the tweaking. Beta testers watched tweaks become redundant as Win7 became the Black Viper.
 
I recently did an experiment and started a fresh 7 install, but with registry changes. All my programs are on a partition other than C, and so is the boot record, PowerShell, my user profile, and all Windows temp files. Some of these changes required updating the registry, while others merely required changing the Environment Variables.

Since I modified the registry and all my programs are on a separate partition, Windows Update cannot provide updates for Windows Defender; the updates just fail. All other updates work succesfully I tried to go into the registry to change the default install location for Windows Defender, but no option was available under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. From what I can tell, Windows Defender is not running at all.

Has anybody found a fix for this issue?

Have you moved Program Files directory :p?What exactly you did with system?
If you don't want to use System Restore only fix your own error describe more details...
 

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