Am at a loss

[ICIT2LOL]

Am at a loss as to why people insist on using this garbage I recently saw a great niece (12 yo) of mine post onto my brothers facebook site a video of people being burnt to death in Kenya I think it was.

So how come this rotten site is allowed to carry on take a look Firm: Facebook 'bug' worse than reported; non-users also affected | ZDNet

 

[Anak]

IMHO, if I was your brother, I would have a long, long talk with his daughter and there would be a loss of privileges.

About facebook, it is unfortunately: a sign of the times Money walks, BS talks.
Personally my wife and I abhor social networking and neither of us would be caught dead on one.

Well, I did once, and that cured it for me. A few years back I wanted to try a program, but you had to join their facebook page to get it, what a mistake!
Emails and spam followed and when I had enough I finally found the unsubscribe button, that went better than I expected, but I started receiving spam telling me it was imperative that I check my security settings and it had a button designed to take me to the sign-in page. Yea, right!

That right there warns you there are bots scrubbing the site. It took a while but my filter won out, and if it starts up again I will know facebook still has my information and never deleted it.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

 

[Shadowjk]

The site has been corrupted by advertisements and the information that it holds on us as a society is unbelievable and really isn't necessary. The recent scare with PRISM and Tempora only just reinforces my perception of Facebook

 

[LADYPINKtomato1]

Some of my friends insisted I should have a facebook acct.. so I joined to enjoy their company.
In no time I had all kinds of people wanting me to add them as a friend..had no idea who they were..
( I had mine set to private. ), I contacted my gf , who told me by using her suggestions how to emptie mine and then delete my acct. that's exactly what I did. Have never looked back !!!.. best thing or one of the best I've ever done.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

IMHO, if I was your brother, I would have a long, long talk with his daughter and there would be a loss of privileges.

About facebook, it is unfortunately: a sign of the times Money walks, BS talks.
Personally my wife and I abhor social networking and neither of us would be caught dead on one.

Well, I did once, and that cured it for me. A few years back I wanted to try a program, but you had to join their facebook page to get it, what a mistake!
Emails and spam followed and when I had enough I finally found the unsubscribe button, that went better than I expected, but I started receiving spam telling me it was imperative that I check my security settings and it had a button designed to take me to the sign-in page. Yea, right!

That right there warns you there are bots scrubbing the site. It took a while but my filter won out, and if it starts up again I will know facebook still has my information and never deleted it.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Yes I agree absolutely Anak and everyone who has responded. It was actually his granddaughter that did this shameful thing.
I joined up many moons ago and very quickly deleted the account after I got unsolicited visits form people I had no idea from where I had known them In fact my circle of friends is very small so they were obviously out for attention - sad when you think about it.

My brother uses it mainly to keep up with ex army buddies (ex paratroopers) so I can see that is ok but it is the flood of filth and disgusting videos like the one I mentioned that he cannot avoid.

I did read somewhere a long time ago that the account is never truly delete in that the records still exist somewhere which is a very scary thing.

Personally I think it is about time that governments should take action against this form of detritus.

As for the really clever person or whatever who thought this rubbish up well he has some reckoning to do or perhaps he has no conscience at all

 

[SIW2]

Facebook Unveils New Waste of Time : The New Yorker

Fbook has cornered the pointless waffle market. There is nowhere people can substitute for it.

 

[Layback Bear]

The question is do we want censorship to start with FaceBook and then go to what next. If a parent allows a child on FaceBook that is a problem that the parent should take care of. I wouldn't allow any child on such social web sites.

 

[Solarstarshines]

I use Facebook all the time but you have to think there are people out there just clicking on anything

It isn't Facebook's fault it is the user behind the controls you can simply turn a lot of that garbage off but if you're green to how to do it then you will get any and everything

it took me some time to get it right and i'll say once you learn how to stop alerts and only deal with certain parts of face book then it is all smooth sailing just like every other social app adds are what makes it run but you can also disable them too
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[Solarstarshines]

The question is do we want censorship to start with FaceBook and then go to what next. If a parent allows a child on FaceBook that is a problem that the parent should take care of. I wouldn't allow any child on such social web sites.

Yeah but the sad thing we use it to talk to family abroad also with Skype but this is faster when you just want to leave a message and go

Youngsters to say the least go all over the place and most of the sites attract them and are full of viruses because lets face it all the cool stuff that is easy to find and easy to get is a preset to Virusville

 

[derekimo]

Am at a loss as to why people insist on using this garbage I recently saw a great niece (12 yo) of mine post onto my brothers facebook site a video of people being burnt to death in Kenya I think it was.

It's on YouTube too...

 

[Solarstarshines]

I must mention Facebook allows Porn sites as well that is another thing you have to watch for

before they would get banned but I have seen my friends post some wicked stuff that took me back

 

[Anak]

I can see there are some strong opinions for, and against the thread topic, therefore I only have one comment to make before I "unfriend" this thread.

I want to apologize to ICit2lol for the assumption I made regarding the lineage of his great-niece.

 

[smarteyeball]

I use Facebook all the time but you have to think there are people out there just clicking on anything


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Yep. I know one of those people well and I'm always wary of whatever link/app/blah they send me.

Anything that flashes, they'll click and not give a thought to the consequences.



I was a FaceBook holdout until the death of my wife 3 1/2 months ago. Since then I've used it daily to keep in contact with some friends.

Used properly, FaceBook is okay and quite safe. Although I always assume that what I post is no longer private and forever public. Definitely no self nudies being posted here





For kids, it's not so much FB being the problem, it's the internet itself.

Accessing material they should not be seeing or at least should have an adult to explain is simply not viable. The only truly 'safe' way to use the net and keep unwanted images/videos/opinions is to not use it. Sadly in this day and age, that is not a realistic option for most.


*PS - Who else wants to the red and white striped shirted man punished? Animals. Uncivilized animals.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yes I know Derek and well I suppose the majority of people are really just apathetic enough to not want censorship over material that I saw. I personally don't think there is any excuse or argument against censorship in matters of this nature, and anyone who argues it is taking away the rights of individuals would soon change their tune if they or one of theirs was treated in such a horrific manner and it to be broadcast for for the sickheads to blithely watch and then just forget.

Go ahead and waste your yearly trip around the sun I don't care quite frankly what anyone does with their precious time here in this life, but it is sickening to think that such obscenities as what I saw part of that evening is allowed to be screened and are in effect creating a culture of acceptance.

I am sure our admin would put the kibosh on anything remotely offensive as that. It goes on I know but I am sure everyone in the US or anywhere for that matter was appalled at the sight of those poor soldiers being dragged around that Somalian capital or some poor wretch being publicly beheaded in Beirut or that soldier that was hacked to death in London recently.
I think that the people who run those sites have an obligation to censor such material if only to prevent it from inciting others to do likewise.

Anak there was no need to apolgise for someone who I don't consider either part of my family lineage or have anywhere in my presence. Frankly to me it also speaks reams of what her parents must be thinking of letting her go on this wretched site because this was not the only instance of her or her immediate siblings posting material that I find quite offensive and indecent.
I am generally fairly broad minded but there is a limit and they all - not just this one - have over stepped the boundaries of human decency, in mine and my brothers minds.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

I use Facebook all the time but you have to think there are people out there just clicking on anything


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Yep. I know one of those people well and I'm always wary of whatever link/app/blah they send me.

Anything that flashes, they'll click and not give a thought to the consequences.



I was a FaceBook holdout until the death of my wife 3 1/2 months ago. Since then I've used it daily to keep in contact with some friends.

Used properly, FaceBook is okay and quite safe. Although I always assume that what I post is no longer private and forever public. Definitely no self nudies being posted here





For kids, it's not so much FB being the problem, it's the internet itself.

Accessing material they should not be seeing or at least should have an adult to explain is simply not viable. The only truly 'safe' way to use the net and keep unwanted images/videos/opinions is to not use it. Sadly in this day and age, that is not a realistic option for most.


*PS - Who else wants to the red and white striped shirted man punished? Animals. Uncivilized animals.

Yes mate it is really in al reality a problem that cannot be fixed I suppose. I don't know perhaps I am bit too old fashioned but I just don't see what is wrong with emails phones and letters. To have ones business flashed around like this is pure madness especially after reading that article I posted.

Oh and I am so sorry to hear about losing your wife mate. Truly it must be awful as I see it so often at work and also know how I felt after 38 years to lose my ex to someone else, but for the parting to be that way would be unbearable to me.

 

[smarteyeball]

Sadly that is how it these days. I actually feel sorry for kids who don't know of a life without the internet.


Cheers John. Yep, it is truly awful indeed. At least we knew it was coming 'sometime' and while that was a horror by itself, it did help soften the blow a tad when it came. Still incredibly painful though. Losing the most important thing to a person usually is and she was my everything

 

[bobafetthotmail]

I mantain a token presence on Facebook with a disposable anonymous account (linked to a outlook alias, not the main mail account), mainly for companies and other stuff that requires you to use facebook to get there.

As for kids acting like a-holes, it's not really new. It's just that now we have proofs of it, while before they were pestering animals or their peers with racist/homophobic/gang-like stuff blissfully unseen.

I must mention Facebook allows Porn sites as well that is another thing you have to watch for

Cool. Can I spam pr0n to kids on Facebook or would that be illegal? :devil:

The only truly 'safe' way to use the net and keep unwanted images/videos/opinions is to not use it.

For opinions it's enough having a good bond with your offspring, so that if he/she/it sees something weird comes to you asking your opinion and you can discuss the matter. Not always possible though, as requires smarts in both the parent and the kid.

Kids don't understand Pr0n until they develop enough to have a sexual drive (at which point there is no reason not to let them look at it), such stuff is usually disregarded automatically.

But again, if they are dumb they remain dumb. The Internet does not make it worse, just more apparent.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

I mantain a token presence on Facebook with a disposable anonymous account (linked to a outlook alias, not the main mail account), mainly for companies and other stuff that requires you to use facebook to get there.

As for kids acting like a-holes, it's not really new. It's just that now we have proofs of it, while before they were pestering animals or their peers with racist/homophobic/gang-like stuff blissfully unseen.

I must mention Facebook allows Porn sites as well that is another thing you have to watch for

Cool. Can I spam pr0n to kids on Facebook or would that be illegal? :devil:

The only truly 'safe' way to use the net and keep unwanted images/videos/opinions is to not use it.

For opinions it's enough having a good bond with your offspring, so that if he/she/it sees something weird comes to you asking your opinion and you can discuss the matter. Not always possible though, as requires smarts in both the parent and the kid.

Kids don't understand Pr0n until they develop enough to have a sexual drive (at which point there is no reason not to let them look at it), such stuff is usually disregarded automatically.

But again, if they are dumb they remain dumb. The Internet does not make it worse, just more apparent.

Hum Bob well I don't know quite what to say I thought you were a bit more objective than that.
In my original post it was the ghastly way that those people were killed that was my main concern porn as you refer to it I couldn't care less cos it has been going on for millennia and there is probably not many people on the net or this site that has not at some time viewed it.
But deliberately setting human beings alight after a severe beating with wooden rods, fists, and kicking is in my mind totally obscene and so inappropriate for those of tender years to be watching just for something to do. I think if you could see that video I feel you would take a very different tack on this unspeakable act and gutless site.

 

[boohbah]

a lot of these videos are about human rights and are forwarded or shared to make people aware these atrocities take place.
another one recently was a woman being publicy flogged as she was a rape victim and that is how female rape victims are dealt with in that country.
as she had had extra marital sex FFS!

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok I see I am outnumbered here I just cannot get the sight of that man with his skin on fire and seee hs breathing slow and stop out of my mind thats all.

I am not on any crusade or such but it just brings back memories of the gutless way that the UN and the rest of the so called free world stood around in Bosnia and watched as people were slaughtered and while Hussain chemically killed thousands without drawing breath.

Yes we can see and know what goes on but it is the apathetic way that a lot of people just accept it and carry on as if nothing has happened.

Like my ex used to say and it is on par with this - "No one cares about health until they get sick themselves" - so true because I cop those who don't look after themselves and expect miracles when they do get sick, and we wonder why the planet is in the state it is in:sarc: