AMD Phenom 2 X4 965 Heating issues

[pcgamer]

i installed a new AMD 965 CPU in my pc and have tryed it with both artic silver 5 and aksa themal paste and it idels at 45-50c normally but when i start multi tasking or playing game such as crysis it rockets up to 62c and even 64 on crysis after 10 mins of play. as it is only allowed to go safly to 62c i am a bit worried about this i am using the stock heatsink that came with it but that is so loud when playing games i have had to stop now is there a way to keep it cooler and has any 1 else had problems with this CPU?

 

[Shutup]

i installed a new AMD 965 CPU in my pc and have tryed it with both artic silver 5 and aksa themal paste and it idels at 45-50c normally but when i start multi tasking or playing game such as crysis it rockets up to 62c and even 64 on crysis after 10 mins of play. as it is only allowed to go safly to 62c i am a bit worried about this i am using the stock heatsink that came with it but that is so loud when playing games i have had to stop now is there a way to keep it cooler and has any 1 else had problems with this CPU?

Hi pcgamer,

First not to worry about 64c, it can go to sustained periods of 85c without real short term problems.
The max is somewhere in the region of 125c, but that's not really healthy.
If your cpu is going to max at 62c under full load, that is excellent.

Remember, if your cpu stays very cool under load, it means it disapates it's heat very quickly.
And where does it's excess heat go? Right! Into your case.

Now instead of getting your cpu down to let's say 55c max, it's much more important to get rid of the heat from your case asap.

Hard-disks don't like hot environments!

Make sure there is enough flow in and out of the case, and you shouldn't worry one bit about a 62c cpu.

Good luck.

 

[pcgamer]

i installed a new AMD 965 CPU in my pc and have tryed it with both artic silver 5 and aksa themal paste and it idels at 45-50c normally but when i start multi tasking or playing game such as crysis it rockets up to 62c and even 64 on crysis after 10 mins of play. as it is only allowed to go safly to 62c i am a bit worried about this i am using the stock heatsink that came with it but that is so loud when playing games i have had to stop now is there a way to keep it cooler and has any 1 else had problems with this CPU?

Hi pcgamer,

First not to worry about 64c, it can go to sustained periods of 85c without real short term problems.
The max is somewhere in the region of 125c, but that's not really healthy.
If your cpu is going to max at 62c under full load, that is excellent.

Remember, if your cpu stays very cool under load, it means it disapates it's heat very quickly.
And where does it's excess heat go? Right! Into your case.

Now instead of getting your cpu down to let's say 55c max, it's much more important to get rid of the heat from your case asap.

Hard-disks don't like hot environments!

Make sure there is enough flow in and out of the case, and you shouldn't worry one bit about a 62c cpu.

Good luck.

thanks for the info my HDD has a very good air flow as its at 23c max all the time as i got a 120mm fan blowing air straight on to it.

 

[stormy13]

First not to worry about 64c, it can go to sustained periods of 85c without real short term problems.
The max is somewhere in the region of 125c, but that's not really healthy.
If your cpu is going to max at 62c under full load, that is excellent.

Not sure where you got those numbers from but not according to AMD,

Compare AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Phenom?, AMD Athlon? FX, AMD Athlon? X2 Dual-Core, AMD Athlon?, and AMD Sempron? Processor

If it got into the 80's I would be more than a little alarmed.

pcgamer what are you using for a heatsink? If it isn't a faulty temp sensor somewhere it sounds like it may not be seated on the CPU properly.

 

[Shutup]

thanks for the info my HDD has a very good air flow as its at 23c max all the time as i got a 120mm fan blowing air straight on to it.

That's excellent.

The 965 cpu is one hell of a beast, black edition 3.2ghz, and 125watts, so it's bound to get a little hotter than others, but again 64c for that cpu is excellent!

Is that with the stock cooler? Can hardly imagine it.

 

[pcgamer]

First not to worry about 64c, it can go to sustained periods of 85c without real short term problems.
The max is somewhere in the region of 125c, but that's not really healthy.
If your cpu is going to max at 62c under full load, that is excellent.

Not sure where you got those numbers from but not according to AMD,

Compare AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Phenom?, AMD Athlon? FX, AMD Athlon? X2 Dual-Core, AMD Athlon?, and AMD Sempron? Processor

If it got into the 80's I would be more than a little alarmed.

pcgamer what are you using for a heatsink? If it isn't a faulty temp sensor somewhere it sounds like it may not be seated on the CPU properly.

Its with the stock AMD heat sink with aksa thermal compund its really loud though and im using HWmonitor to check temps. also the heatsink when cliped in moves a little if i really try to move it.

 

[tw33k]

I've always used AMD chips and have always made sure to use a good thermal paste and heatsink/fan. I agree with WHS, above 80 is high! I'd get a new cpu cooler if it was me getting temps that high.

 

[pcgamer]

I've always used AMD chips and have always made sure to use a good thermal paste and heatsink/fan. I agree with WHS, above 80 is high! I'd get a new cpu cooler if it was me getting temps that high.

But the other fans and coolers i have been reading get worse temps as they all say 70+ and i dont wana buy a new 1 and it be the same also i have tryed the Artic silver 5 and was very unimpressed by it doing worse than stock compound.

 

[Shutup]

First not to worry about 64c, it can go to sustained periods of 85c without real short term problems.
The max is somewhere in the region of 125c, but that's not really healthy.
If your cpu is going to max at 62c under full load, that is excellent.

Not sure where you got those numbers from but not according to AMD,

Compare AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Phenom?, AMD Athlon? FX, AMD Athlon? X2 Dual-Core, AMD Athlon?, and AMD Sempron? Processor

If it got into the 80's I would be more than a little alarmed.

pcgamer what are you using for a heatsink? If it isn't a faulty temp sensor somewhere it sounds like it may not be seated on the CPU properly.

Hi Stormy,

I got those numbers from real world situations, not the factory numbers.

You are right, at full load they should stay between 60 to 64, and I didn't recommend going over that for very long periods, but spending 20 minutes at 80c won't do any harm what so ever.
I've seen many cpu's all covered in dust working for months on end between 70c and 100c, without so much as a bsod.

These baby's can take quite a lot, especially the "black editions", they are AMD's finest selections.
The 64c AMD puts in their tables are sustained maximums, when you would keep it running at full load for hours on end.

My AMD X4 925 (95watts version), stays idle/light work between 28c and 35c, but when I convert a video with all four cores on full load, it goes to 67c - 69c.

When playing a heavy game at full specs, maxing at 64c is no problem what so ever, and to me is no indication the cooler is not fixed right at the cpu.

It would however be a good idea to buy a better cooler than the stock one, if you plan on playing for sustained periods.

Greetings

 

[mpcrsc562]

I've always used AMD chips and have always made sure to use a good thermal paste and heatsink/fan. I agree with WHS, above 80 is high! I'd get a new cpu cooler if it was me getting temps that high.

But the other fans and coolers i have been reading get worse temps as they all say 70+ and i dont wana buy a new 1 and it be the same also i have tryed the Artic silver 5 and was very unimpressed by it doing worse than stock compound.

I'd like to see some of those coolers you speak of! I had a Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer on this PC a while back and my processor idled at about 32~34 and load temps were about 40~44--nothing ever as high as what you've stated. And, yes, I know our processors aren't exactly the same as my stock frequency is a few MHz lower than yours, but they are similar enough to show the comparison.

In my opinion, those temps are too high for just playing a game. As Stormy13 stated, check to make sure your HSF is seated properly or look into an aftermarket HSF. They're not too expensive.

 

[stormy13]

How much did you apply? Have a look here,

Arctic Silver Incorporated - Home

select "Phenom II with metal cap" for how to apply it.

 

[tw33k]

I've always used AMD chips and have always made sure to use a good thermal paste and heatsink/fan. I agree with WHS, above 80 is high! I'd get a new cpu cooler if it was me getting temps that high.

But the other fans and coolers i have been reading get worse temps as they all say 70+ and i dont wana buy a new 1 and it be the same also i have tryed the Artic silver 5 and was very unimpressed by it doing worse than stock compound.

My cpu NEVER gets higher than mid 30sC. I use this Zalman

 

[Shutup]

If I read the first post right, pcgamer was maxing at 64c playing Crysis, not just any game.
It's one of the most demanding games out there.

Considering he has the 965 black edition, and considering he is using the stock cooler, I am convinced the cooler is not wrongly seated.

I promise you, if you have a cooler wrongly seated on the 965, you are talking temps in the region of 100c to 120c, but long before that happens the pc will bsod, reboot or freeze.

By the way, the cooler I recommend is: Arctic-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2

Just make sure it fits in your case.

 

[mpcrsc562]

If I read the first post right, pcgamer was maxing at 64c playing Crysis, not just any game.

True, the OP did state that Crysis was the game in question. And with my X4 940 with the Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer, my temps while playing Crysis never got above 44C.

 

[Shutup]

If I read the first post right, pcgamer was maxing at 64c playing Crysis, not just any game.

True, the OP did state that Crysis was the game in question. And with my X4 940 with the Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer, my temps while playing Crysis never got above 44C.

Your CPU has (almost) exact same specs as pcgamers (be it a AM2+ version),
and the difference between his temps and yours is the cooler, and maybe other airflow circumstances.

Maybe I sound like a stubborn s.o.b., but in my experience, a wrongly seated cooler gives way higher temps than 64c at full load.

It must be his stock cooler in conjunction with poor airflow in and out of the case.

I am not claiming that 64c is perfect, I just wanted to ease pcgamers mind a bit, telling him it is not as bad as he thought it was.

It should be dealt with, but there is no reason to panic.

 

[mpcrsc562]

If I read the first post right, pcgamer was maxing at 64c playing Crysis, not just any game.

True, the OP did state that Crysis was the game in question. And with my X4 940 with the Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer, my temps while playing Crysis never got above 44C.

Your CPU has (almost) exact same specs as pcgamers (be it a AM2+ version),
and the difference between his temps and yours is the cooler, and maybe other airflow circumstances.

Maybe I sound like a stubborn s.o.b., but in my experience, a wrongly seated cooler gives way higher temps than 64c at full load.

It must be his stock cooler in conjunction with poor airflow in and out of the case.

I am not claiming that 64c is perfect, I just wanted to ease pcgamers mind a bit, telling him it is not as bad as he thought it was.

It should be dealt with, but there is no reason to panic.

Oh yes, I agree with what you're stating. I have also seen first hand about a mis-seated HSF and the temps were anything but stable and way more than 64C. As you state, it must be a combo of the stock HSF and poor case cooling.

 

[stormy13]

A couple of pics of the inside of the case would help, one towards the front and one towards the back.

 

[Shutup]

On a side note:

Ever notice the ridiculously thick layer of thermal paste on the stock coolers?

I always take it off, and apply one tiny drop of paste that I spread very finely with an old creditcard.

You should almost be able the see through the layer.

 

[pcgamer]

I have a very big case with plenty of room as it is very lat at night here i will post some pics of it in morning but the heatsink is seated properly i have built my own pc's in the past and 1 a few months before this 1 and that was am2 and it was fine with stock cooler. just this newam3 is really working hard and hot i was playing crysis on ultra high setting though using an ATI 5770 XXX OC edition if that would make it hotter. is there any suggestions on what heat sink i should get as i was looking at this 1 myself. Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156, 1366, AM2, AM3 Heatpipe CPU Cooler - Ebuyer

 

[pcgamer]

also is it safe with it hitting 64C sometimes till i can get hold of the new heatsink also any suggested 1 would be great im looking to spen about £15-£30