AMD prepping Centurion FX processor to take on Intel Core i7 Extreme

[Indianatone]

The new eight-core chip will reportedly run at 5GHz and cost $795.

Read the full article here:
AMD prepping Centurion FX processor to take on Intel Core i7 Extreme CPUs? | ZDNet


Wow if this is true this could be a serious shake up to the enthusiasts market....Wow just wow.

 

[alikhan]

yeah!! It's good to see AMD back in some serious business .

 

[King Arthur]

5GHz? It feels like the GHz wars all over again (a good thing?).

 

[bobkn]

To throw a little cold water: if it's only a higher clocked 8350, its impact will be limited, particularly at an $800 price.

Still waiting for the next Athlon 64. It has been too long since AMD really challenged Intel at the high end.

 

[PwnFrnzy]

5Ghz Factory Clocked?
Sounds tasty, what cooling would be required for something like that?

 

[Solarstarshines]

5Ghz Factory Clocked?
Sounds tasty, what cooling would be required for something like that?

In the article it states no special cooling needed but yet again 800.00 is not justifiable

I can easily hit 5ghz without the BS lol

I guess the point here is they are making it a high clock to It will be able to sorta match performance I would hope they change the IPC to work even better they should have done a lot more with the 8350 even though it does compete with 3570k and 3770k in gaming and beats them in streaming

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
This seems to be dedicated for the serious hobbyist -- do modern games really require this amount of CPU power -- games aren't really CPU power intensive -- video -- yes well -- but specialized GPU's take care of the video components and processing.

No games manufacturer is going to be happy at the prospect of people having to spend around 1,000 USD on HARDWARE before they can even play the game.

Extreme components will be fine for some people but as a mass market -- forget it -- AMD would not be well advised to bet the farm on this one as the current market will be tiny in general and small if they are lucky.

Extreme CPU power will be needed for maybe holographic devices and decent virtual reality simulators - but we are YEARS away from affordable hardware for this stuff.

For most people even an I7 is overkill --especially on a laptop where power requirements are best served by a more modest processor.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[theveterans]

The situation has reversed. Back then, Pentium 4 need to clock at more than 3 GHz to even match the AMD Athlon at 2.2-2.4 GHz in performance. I just hope that these new AMDs are faster at 5 GHz than the 3970x at stock speeds so AMD can at least gain some share in the PC "enthusiast" market. I still wonder if there's enough overclock headroom to push it to 6.5 GHz on liquid cooling. If so, this chip can definitely earn its rights in competing with the hexa core Intel CPUs. I can't wait for this to happen since Intel has been slacking off by pushing the latest microarchitecture on their "performance mainstream" market and leaving the enthusiast market with 2 generations old microarchitecture (Sandy Bridge). If AMD is stealing their sales in that segment, Intel would likely make hexa-cores or even octa-cores with unlocked multipliers on their newest microarchitecture.

 

[Cr00zng]

I agree with jimbo45...

As it is now, there isn't many applications that are utilizing all the cores in today's CPUs. Throwing more cores in the CPU does very little, if any for the average users; for most, even the Intel Core2 CPU is an overkill. They can even "revive" the Core2 system by installing an SSD drive, if performance is an issue...

 

[HerrKaLeun]

Irrelevant since they don't mention when it will be available and what actual performance it will have and what power consumption.

Right now and for years AMD is way behind Intel regarding maximum performance and power consumption and now all of sudden they are supposed to have a better CPU ready and we are supposed to believe it without having seen and tested it? I believe it once it is for sale to the public and Anandtech has tested and it determined it runs circles around a comparably priced Intel CPU.

And AMD count half-cores as cores. So a quadcore has 8 of those integer units point but only 4 floating point units and they call it 8-core since it has 8 of the integer units. the same way my 4-cylinder car has 8 intake valves and I now call it an 8-cylinder because 8 valves feed cylinders.

I'm not discounting AMD and hope they come back. But for years they ceded the high-performance market to Intel and barely compete in the low- and medium performance market. It will take more than a news article to make me believe they actually have a product (have = I can buy one from Newegg) that is better than Intel.

 

[Faladu]

I am still wondering why my Phenom II 1090T CPU vanished, it's still kicking all comers on my PC, gaming wise, well yes I have a better than average chipset, RAM, video card, and motherboard, too.

Don't wake the people still buying local chain store PCs, they need their sleep.

 

[legacy7955]

After the AMD Bulldozer debacle I recall that they said they were going to concentrate on mobile computing and smart phone products.

Thankfully they reconsidered this decision.

Intel is arrogant and obnoxious with easy success lately. I'm glad to see that AMD is going to try and reenter the high performance PC market.

 

[Fantail]

Centurion processors will come with a free tee shirt.

Here's proof

 

[senseless1707]

This will be interesting to see how well it will sell. All the points that have been brought up are good.

Love me some 5ghz (maybe not for $800 though...)

 

[Indianatone]

I am still wondering why my Phenom II 1090T CPU vanished, it's still kicking all comers on my PC, gaming wise, well yes I have a better than average chipset, RAM, video card, and motherboard, too.

Don't wake the people still buying local chain store PCs, they need their sleep.

When the Phenom II chips were discontinued the six cores were snapped up first. I saw the prices of them rise substantially after they got scarce. New Egg still has this along with the popular Athlon Propus 3GHZ chip.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX - Newegg.com

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX - Newegg.com

Makes you wonder if they really are still making them for older motherboard (AM2 and AM3) owners. Also I don't believe all the hype about Intel being faster. If you benchmark all day and night sure but I don't and I know I built 2 six core Phenom machines for the price of one machine with Intel's most expensive chip. I have always bought AMD (except in netbook came with atom) since they are less expensive giving me more back for the $. I am not a gamer, more of a music and picture editing web browsing casual gaming power user. Not a fan boy either, just live in the real world with a very limited income. If money was no object I would build myself a $10K machine just because I needed to spend some of the interest I was earning

 

[Indianatone]

Centurion processors will come with a free tee shirt.

Here's proof

Well you'll need to sell the shirt of your back to buy one so this will be handy for the no shirt, no shoes , no service establishments :haha:

 

[King Arthur]

Newegg had a sale on the quad core Phenom II the other day. While I've always been a fan of Intel CPUs, I must admit that a decent quad core for $79 USD was very tempting indeed!

My wallet lives to buy another day though, I'm currently not in the market for a new computer.

 

[Indianatone]

This will be interesting to see how well it will sell. All the points that have been brought up are good.

Love me some 5ghz (maybe not for $800 though...)

It may force Intel to release some of those rumoured high end chips they have not needed to yet 8 & 12 cores i7 (16 and 24 with hyper threading virtual cores). Competition is good.

 

[theveterans]

Newegg had a sale on the quad core Phenom II the other day. While I've always been a fan of Intel CPUs, I must admit that a decent quad core for $79 USD was very tempting indeed!

My wallet lives to buy another day though, I'm currently not in the market for a new computer.

I prefer to have an i3 for a bit more since Intel's performance per core is much higher than AMD. For my tasks, I typically just do web browsing, MS Excel calculations, online flash games, simulation softwares, etc. and since most of these tasks are single/dual threaded, an i3 would outperform the AMD in this case.

 

[theveterans]

This will be interesting to see how well it will sell. All the points that have been brought up are good.

Love me some 5ghz (maybe not for $800 though...)

It may force Intel to release some of those rumoured high end chips they have not needed to yet 8 & 12 cores i7 (16 and 24 with hyper threading virtual cores). Competition is good.

For a while, Intel has their own uber expensive 10 core Nehalem as well as 8 core Sandy Bridge Xeons that beat a 3970x at stock speeds in terms of raw performance. If AMD's new Centurion can put a dent on the Intel's enthusiast CPUs, Intel would be forced to innovate and not making their enthusiast line stagnant for a long time.