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I'm a little confused. I have three AMD systems in the house, 2 on Win7 and 1 on Vista. My own system is Phenom based, and the RAM clocks at either 800 MHz or 1066 MHz, just like it should. As reported by CPU-Z.

In my wife's machine (Asrock N-68, Athlon X2 4000) her DDR2 800 clocks at 740 MHz, and the Media Center Machine (Asus M2N-E, Athlon 3500+) clocks DDR2 667 RAM at 630 MHz. I'm not sure why this happens. CPU-Z reports the proper SPD of both sets of RAM, but it doesn't reach it's actual speed without pushing the FSB up a little, and thus OCing the CPU. I've confirmed the speed discrepancy with Everest and PC Wizard. The BIOS for both says that the RAM is running at it's rated speed

My system has an AMD chipset, but the others have an Nvidia chipset. Is it the chipset, or is there a quirk in the Athlon memory controller that I don't understand? It isn't a big performance hit, but it is weird. Anybody else ever see this happen?
 

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I'm a little confused. I have three AMD systems in the house, 2 on Win7 and 1 on Vista. My own system is Phenom based, and the RAM clocks at either 800 MHz or 1066 MHz, just like it should. As reported by CPU-Z.

In my wife's machine (Asrock N-68, Athlon X2 4000) her DDR2 800 clocks at 740 MHz, and the Media Center Machine (Asus M2N-E, Athlon 3500+) clocks DDR2 667 RAM at 630 MHz. I'm not sure why this happens. CPU-Z reports the proper SPD of both sets of RAM, but it doesn't reach it's actual speed without pushing the FSB up a little, and thus OCing the CPU. I've confirmed the speed discrepancy with Everest and PC Wizard. The BIOS for both says that the RAM is running at it's rated speed

My system has an AMD chipset, but the others have an Nvidia chipset. Is it the chipset, or is there a quirk in the Athlon memory controller that I don't understand? It isn't a big performance hit, but it is weird. Anybody else ever see this happen?

Did you try those memories - wife's and media center's - on your Phenom based pc?! Try it, but it sounds like Athlon memory controller "problem".

Let us know the results!

"PLEASE REP ANYONE WHO HELPS YOU"
 

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GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7
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Well, it seems to be an Athlon problem. In the media center PC I changes out the CPU. I took out the Athlon 3500 and put in an Athlon X2 5000, and now the memory runs at the proper speed. Really weird.

And the wife's memory runs at the proper speed in my Phenom machine, so I think you're right about the "problem." Her machine won't run at speed unless I overclock it. I don't get it, but okay...
 

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Mellon Labs (custom build)
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Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
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Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
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Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

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Well, it seems to be an Athlon problem. In the media center PC I changes out the CPU. I took out the Athlon 3500 and put in an Athlon X2 5000, and now the memory runs at the proper speed. Really weird.

And the wife's memory runs at the proper speed in my Phenom machine, so I think you're right about the "problem." Her machine won't run at speed unless I overclock it. I don't get it, but okay...

There's nothing weird...:) It's just a memory controller limitation. Are your doubts solved?!

"PLEASE REP ANYONE WHO HELPS YOU"
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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AMD PHENOM II X6 1090T 3.2GHz
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7
Memory
8GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS - F3-10666CL7D
Graphics Card(s)
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON HD 5870 VAPOR X OC
Sound Card
REALTEK DOLBY HOME THEATER
Monitor(s) Displays
LED LG W2486L
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
SEAGATE 1TB -ST31000528AS - AHCI MODE - AS SATA
PSU
ZALMAN ZM1000-HP 1000W
Case
THERMALTAKE XASER VI VG4000SWA
Cooling
140MM x3 / 120MM x1 AIR COOLING - THERMALTAKE
Keyboard
MICROSOFT DIGITAL MEDIA KEYBOARD 3000 - USB
Mouse
MICROSOFT BASIC OPTICAL MOUSE 2.0 - USB
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600KBPS
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MICROSOFT XBOX 360 CONTROLLER
Yes they are. Thanks.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

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WALLONN7 / LIN BLACK SERIES II
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AMD PHENOM II X6 1090T 3.2GHz
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7
Memory
8GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS - F3-10666CL7D
Graphics Card(s)
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON HD 5870 VAPOR X OC
Sound Card
REALTEK DOLBY HOME THEATER
Monitor(s) Displays
LED LG W2486L
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
SEAGATE 1TB -ST31000528AS - AHCI MODE - AS SATA
PSU
ZALMAN ZM1000-HP 1000W
Case
THERMALTAKE XASER VI VG4000SWA
Cooling
140MM x3 / 120MM x1 AIR COOLING - THERMALTAKE
Keyboard
MICROSOFT DIGITAL MEDIA KEYBOARD 3000 - USB
Mouse
MICROSOFT BASIC OPTICAL MOUSE 2.0 - USB
Internet Speed
600KBPS
Other Info
MICROSOFT XBOX 360 CONTROLLER

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
AMD PHENOM II X6 1090T 3.2GHz
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7
Memory
8GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS - F3-10666CL7D
Graphics Card(s)
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON HD 5870 VAPOR X OC
Sound Card
REALTEK DOLBY HOME THEATER
Monitor(s) Displays
LED LG W2486L
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
SEAGATE 1TB -ST31000528AS - AHCI MODE - AS SATA
PSU
ZALMAN ZM1000-HP 1000W
Case
THERMALTAKE XASER VI VG4000SWA
Cooling
140MM x3 / 120MM x1 AIR COOLING - THERMALTAKE
Keyboard
MICROSOFT DIGITAL MEDIA KEYBOARD 3000 - USB
Mouse
MICROSOFT BASIC OPTICAL MOUSE 2.0 - USB
Internet Speed
600KBPS
Other Info
MICROSOFT XBOX 360 CONTROLLER
Cool. Thanks.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

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