AMD X6 1090T More Overclocking Adventures! BSOD's

[Britton30]

Actually, it is not made by Asus, but by a sister company. From what I have read, they do not necessarily share tech with each other, so essentially they are separate entities.

You are correct. ASrock was part of ASUS in the beginning as a lower-line board. They became an independent entity later and have generally been known as a Top maker. According to some reviews.

 

[Nomad8459]

AS at the beginning of the name is the big clue, they are pretty much related.

Anyhoo, you crash my thread and then start trying to prove points??

Whats that about? I was giving you the advice you asked for.

Should have said that if you overclock you need a better cooler than the stock one

Its either F1 or its my Graphics card, I think the overclock is fine, Am now at 3.97Ghz, with 2880 NB, 2180 HT link and 1612Mhz on the RAM, everything works except F1 2011, even microsoft FSX which is really bad for crashing if our system isn't stable as I already know from experience.

 

[seekermeister]

AS at the beginning of the name is the big clue, they are pretty much related.

Anyhoo, you crash my thread and then start trying to prove points??

Whats that about? I was giving you the advice you asked for

I regret that you consider anyone asking you a question as being a thread crasher, and as far as my commenting about your response, I do not apologize, because it is either right or wrong. In any case, I won't make the mistake of asking you anything in the future.

 

[Nomad8459]

Believe it or not, I wasn't being funny, but I believe you were. You came back to me and said oh, I can't remember what I need to ask you basically, I assumed you were asking for overclocking advice as you said that you hadn't managed to do it.

I have read about the 890FX and its relevancies but have no exact experience with that board.

There is no such thing as right or wrong, there is only opinion.

Your opinion is that ASrock has nothing to do with ASUS, my opinion is that they did and in part still do, so how does that make me wrong????

Good luck to you, remembering what it was you actually wanted to know.

By the way, I was very busy at the time you asked the question and I still took time to answer you fully, I think that makes me a wonderous person actually!

Re-seated my Graphics Card, cleaned up the gold strips with alcohol wipes, enabled Hybrid SLI and set the Chipset to Phys X.

Changed settings to:

FSB/HT : 250
Multi : x16
CPU : 4ghz or 4000Mhz
NB : 3000 Mhz
HT link : 2000Mhz
Dram : 833Mhz at 8-8-8-24 1T @1.66V

And I have just played an hour of F1 2011, yay!

Not sure which of the above steps did the trick am afraid.

It may have been the voltage on the RAM, but I wasn't getting any BSOD as you would expect from a RAM issue, but in the SPD, it states 1600Mhz at 8-8-8-24 **2T**

So I guess running them at 1T would amount to an overclock.

Anyways all looks well again, got my 4Ghz, got my 3Ghz NB and the HT is at stock, I like these settings alot and the 250 HT gives nice symmetry.

 

[Britton30]

you are fortunate to get 1T to work. It won't boot on my system (not the one in my specs though). Also the NB and HT freqs probably helped.

As a side note...
ASRock > About ASRock
ASRock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Nomad8459]

It was as I heard it to be honest, the wiki line that states invested and subordinated by ASUS! says it all really.

I have been lucky with the 1T, having 2 x 4GB helps, rather than 4 x 2GB.

With the tower 120 extreme there isn't much room for more memory, although the heatsinks on these Crucial chips are quite small in comparison to some.

My OCZ reapers DDR2 were huge and they had to go when the Tower 120 arrived.

I think it may well have been a seating issue on the graphics tbh, as it was that which was crashing, could have been RAM, unsure to be exact.

But am very happy with this board overall, it was a Bargain!

I paid £69 or $109 for it, 3 months old.

The above was totally stable except for Intel Burn test on "maximum" settings, damn Burn test, I can't live with it not passing at the highest possible settings so I had to tinker again.

It was the same old problem, it wasn't the CPU/NB or the HT or the RAM, it was the simple fact that I tried to run the processor above 3.96Ghz, so you may think 4ghz is pretty close to 3.96Ghz, but the bizarre thing is 3.96Ghz is Intel Burn Test stable and yet 4Ghz isn't on this chip.

Still 3.96Ghz on all 6 cores with an HT of 214Mhz, Ram is at 1714Mhz at 8-8-8-24 *1T* cpu/nb is at 3000Mhz, HT link is at 2140Mhz.

It does make me wonder how much mileage there is in this ram, it was fine at 1666Mhz, its fine at 1714Mhz, It may just have more to offer, but who knows??

Intel Burn Test Maximum settings (6144mb) was my quest and that is achieved with the bonus of the high CPU/NB and the quick RAM timings, I am happy indeed.

 

[Nomad8459]

Had a little tinker last night knowing that the CPU was stable at 3.96Ghz, just wanted to see if there was any more in the RAM.

Changed the HT frquency to 220Mhz
Multiplier x18
NB 3080Mhz
RAM at 1760Mhz still 8-8-8-24 1T

Here are the memeory specs now:

Passes Intel Burn Test on 6144mb (maximum) setting at 78Gflops

 

[Solarstarshines]

looks like you have it running stable how is it loading wise ?

Maybe 1 or 2 seconds faster ?

 

[Britton30]

Those are very good MaxxMem scores on a AMD system!

 

[Nomad8459]

Do you mean loading on boot?

I would say yeah about a second or three.

It loads FSX mega rapid now though, especially the part after selecting your flight when it loads all the data to actually get you into the simulation.

That is easily four or five seconds quicker if not more.

It does all feel very snappy, My frame rates in F1 2011 have gone from 48FPS to 61FPS, using the same graphics card, looks like the DDR2 was holding my GTX 470 back a little.

I do so want an SSD to see what can be achieved but ideally I want one big enough to run all my programs from, not just a boot drive.

Its actually beating some low end i5 systems according to AIDA 64, also keeping up with some XEONs.

IN FPU tests it comes out top of the AIDA pile, in Latency, is right at the top too.....

In the above picture it shows the NB VID as 1.15V but this is a reporting error I think as on the BIOS screen in AIDA 64 it is stated as being 1.45V, that is on AUTO in BIOS, as manually setting it doesn't seem to work..

I am hoping ASUS fix this BIOS so I can try and get that voltage down a little, I have heard it probably needs 1.35 to 1.4 for 3000mhz NB.

 

[Nomad8459]

Those are very good MaxxMem scores on a AMD system!

Can't recommend these Crucial tactical tracers enough, No issues at all, they were listed on crucial's site as being compatible and I have to say they certainly are.

They are rated at 1600Mhz 8-8-8-24-36 *2T* but at only 1.5V to help out intel users.

So to get nearly 1800Mhz 8-8-8-24-36 )*1T at 1.66V is pretty good.

Am sure that they may have more, they probably just about missed the 1866Mhz binning process! LOL

 

[tw33k]

I agree...Crucial is great

 

[Nomad8459]

They do an 1866Mhz version too that will probably get you close to 2000Mhz.

I thought it was overkill on the 1090T though and hearing that some struggled to get 1600, I was conservative, I really don't believe that any thing higher than I am running would provide anything significant on the 1090T however, not with this board, although it is rated to run 2000Mhz when overclocked.

 

[Nomad8459]

So my thermal paste application seems to have settled down over the last week or so, I reapplied paste to the heatsink on the special fan/heatsink that is fitted to my GTX 470 SOC also.

The MX4 on the GTX470 has reduced idle temps by 4-6 C

Net results are below:

 

[Nomad8459]

I thought I would treat myself to another overclocking session.

I have worked some good information out about this board at least.

I set the overvoltage jumper on the motherboard as max without it was 1.55V (BIOS setting) Actual 1.408-1.42V under load Vcore.

The CPU VID was'nt showing up in AIDA 64 until I set this Jumper, now it shows up just fine, and it lets you into the secret of this board and its V droop.

Set 1.6V in BIOS and you get 1.5V CPU VID in AIDA 64. exactly 0.1V less than set value.

Ok, because the chip is not BSODing when it is above 4Ghz, there is only one thing that i can deduce, and it is this, Intel Burn Test is well known for maxing out the CPU and getting it hotter than any other software, included, in my experience, Prime 95, I find that even a four hour run of Prime 95 will result in temperatures around 5-7C lower than Intel Burn Test produces when running the tests higher than standard.

So I am pretty sure that its basically temperatures that are holding this CPU back now, Pretty much as soon as Core Temp exceeds 55C Intel Burn Test fails.

I have however given it a little further push:


OK, 4.02GHZ Nice and stable.

CPU: 4.02Ghz @ 1.45V (Vcore under load) 1.575V (BIOS) 1.475V (CPU VID) AMD X6 1090T Thuban Black Edition
Multi: X18

CPU/NB: 3128Mhz @ 1.45V (Auto in BIOS)
Multi: X14

HT: 223Mhz (222 BIOS)

HT link: 2230Mhz
Multi: X10

RAM: 1786Mhz (1.66V) (AUTO in BIOS) @ 8-8-8-24-36 1T 2x4GB (8GB) Crucial Tactical Tracers (1600Mhz rated)