Annoying, weird crashes, CPU or GPU, need advice

[bigbadwolf]

Hello guys, I'll go straight to the point: for like 6 months, I am getting some systeam freezes/lockups, only hard reset helps. It means the screen will freeze with the last frame and the sound is buzzing, like BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. That's the easiest way to describe it. 2 weeks ago, i made a post here: http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-hel...ome-bsod-seems-random-please-give-advice.html
(read it for more info if you need)

So far, I did like 3-4 clean windows installs with original win7 x64, and swapped the motherboard and the RAM, so they are not faulty for sure. Also, due to the numerous reinstalls and driver/BIOS updates I doubt it's a software-related issue. To be honest, the two remaining componets are the CPU and the GPU which could be faulty, the only problem is, no matter how long i run CPU/GPU stress test, there will be no errors...

Please tell me in comment what would you do, and also which test programS shouild I try again?
These freezes are random btw, happens 1-2 times a week, sometimes 2 times a day, and sometimes happens watching youtube, sometimes playing battlefield 3.

CPU: Intel i7 3770K 3.5GHz
GPU: ATI HD 7870
mobo: P8H77-M
I have 8 GB RAM at 1333 Hz
I have an SSD and 1 HDD, OS on SSD
The PSU is in good condition, the whole system is 1.5 years old, and worked fine before the crashes.

ANY advice will be appreciated, please help me fix this annoying problem, I don't really have the money or time to play with CPU/GPU random swaps.

 

[MrNeeds]

Hello guys, I'll go straight to the point: for like 6 months, I am getting some systeam freezes/lockups, only hard reset helps. It means the screen will freeze with the last frame and the sound is buzzing, like BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. That's the easiest way to describe it. 2 weeks ago, i made a post here: http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-hel...ome-bsod-seems-random-please-give-advice.html
(read it for more info if you need)

So far, I did like 3-4 clean windows installs with original win7 x64, and swapped the motherboard and the RAM, so they are not faulty for sure. Also, due to the numerous reinstalls and driver/BIOS updates I doubt it's a software-related issue. To be honest, the two remaining componets are the CPU and the GPU which could be faulty, the only problem is, no matter how long i run CPU/GPU stress test, there will be no errors...

Please tell me in comment what would you do, and also which test programS shouild I try again?
These freezes are random btw, happens 1-2 times a week, sometimes 2 times a day, and sometimes happens watching youtube, sometimes playing battlefield 3.

CPU: Intel i7 3770K 3.5GHz
GPU: ATI HD 7870
mobo: P8H77-M
I have 8 GB RAM at 1333 Hz
I have an SSD and 1 HDD, OS on SSD
The PSU is in good condition, the whole system is 1.5 years old, and worked fine before the crashes.

ANY advice will be appreciated, please help me fix this annoying problem, I don't really have the money or time to play with CPU/GPU random swaps.

I had the same problem, My RAM was over-clocked above the specifications of my motherboard which caused my screen to just freeze on whatever I was doing with the audio looping in a 1ms loop(brrrrrrrrrrr noise), I know it's not relevant nowadays with most motherboards promoting over-clocking, but stable OS is primary over anything else, I would consider just checking the FSB of your RAM, and setting it to what your motherboard considers not over-clocked and make sure your RAM can also handle it.

 

[bigbadwolf]

Hello guys, I'll go straight to the point: for like 6 months, I am getting some systeam freezes/lockups, only hard reset helps. It means the screen will freeze with the last frame and the sound is buzzing, like BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. That's the easiest way to describe it. 2 weeks ago, i made a post here: http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-hel...ome-bsod-seems-random-please-give-advice.html
(read it for more info if you need)

So far, I did like 3-4 clean windows installs with original win7 x64, and swapped the motherboard and the RAM, so they are not faulty for sure. Also, due to the numerous reinstalls and driver/BIOS updates I doubt it's a software-related issue. To be honest, the two remaining componets are the CPU and the GPU which could be faulty, the only problem is, no matter how long i run CPU/GPU stress test, there will be no errors...

Please tell me in comment what would you do, and also which test programS shouild I try again?
These freezes are random btw, happens 1-2 times a week, sometimes 2 times a day, and sometimes happens watching youtube, sometimes playing battlefield 3.

CPU: Intel i7 3770K 3.5GHz
GPU: ATI HD 7870
mobo: P8H77-M
I have 8 GB RAM at 1333 Hz
I have an SSD and 1 HDD, OS on SSD
The PSU is in good condition, the whole system is 1.5 years old, and worked fine before the crashes.

ANY advice will be appreciated, please help me fix this annoying problem, I don't really have the money or time to play with CPU/GPU random swaps.

I had the same problem, My RAM was over-clocked above the specifications of my motherboard which caused my screen to just freeze on whatever I was doing with the audio looping in a 1ms loop(brrrrrrrrrrr noise), I know it's not relevant nowadays with most motherboards promoting over-clocking, but stable OS is primary over anything else, I would consider just checking the FSB of your RAM, and setting it to what your motherboard considers not over-clocked and make sure your RAM can also handle it.

First of all, thanks for your fast reply, I'll just it right away when I arrive home, still, Im quite new to these overclocking stuff, could you please tell me how to check the RAM's clock and set it to my desired value? At the BIOS or with some software?

 

[MrNeeds]

Hello guys, I'll go straight to the point: for like 6 months, I am getting some systeam freezes/lockups, only hard reset helps. It means the screen will freeze with the last frame and the sound is buzzing, like BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. That's the easiest way to describe it. 2 weeks ago, i made a post here: http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-hel...ome-bsod-seems-random-please-give-advice.html
(read it for more info if you need)

So far, I did like 3-4 clean windows installs with original win7 x64, and swapped the motherboard and the RAM, so they are not faulty for sure. Also, due to the numerous reinstalls and driver/BIOS updates I doubt it's a software-related issue. To be honest, the two remaining componets are the CPU and the GPU which could be faulty, the only problem is, no matter how long i run CPU/GPU stress test, there will be no errors...

Please tell me in comment what would you do, and also which test programS shouild I try again?
These freezes are random btw, happens 1-2 times a week, sometimes 2 times a day, and sometimes happens watching youtube, sometimes playing battlefield 3.

CPU: Intel i7 3770K 3.5GHz
GPU: ATI HD 7870
mobo: P8H77-M
I have 8 GB RAM at 1333 Hz
I have an SSD and 1 HDD, OS on SSD
The PSU is in good condition, the whole system is 1.5 years old, and worked fine before the crashes.

ANY advice will be appreciated, please help me fix this annoying problem, I don't really have the money or time to play with CPU/GPU random swaps.

I had the same problem, My RAM was over-clocked above the specifications of my motherboard which caused my screen to just freeze on whatever I was doing with the audio looping in a 1ms loop(brrrrrrrrrrr noise), I know it's not relevant nowadays with most motherboards promoting over-clocking, but stable OS is primary over anything else, I would consider just checking the FSB of your RAM, and setting it to what your motherboard considers not over-clocked and make sure your RAM can also handle it.

First of all, thanks for your fast reply, I'll just it right away when I arrive home, still, Im quite new to these over-clocking stuff, could you please tell me how to check the RAM's clock and set it to my desired value? At the BIOS or with some software?

Usually in your BOIS, under advanced chipset features on award BIOS or under advanced mode in UEFI and AI tweaker, memory timings are usually set to Auto, but some are pre-clocked.

 

[Boozad]

Please check your BSOD thread again, I've analysed the single dump that was included in your logs and posted some steps for you to follow.

 

[bigbadwolf]

I had the same problem, My RAM was over-clocked above the specifications of my motherboard which caused my screen to just freeze on whatever I was doing with the audio looping in a 1ms loop(brrrrrrrrrrr noise), I know it's not relevant nowadays with most motherboards promoting over-clocking, but stable OS is primary over anything else, I would consider just checking the FSB of your RAM, and setting it to what your motherboard considers not over-clocked and make sure your RAM can also handle it.

First of all, thanks for your fast reply, I'll just it right away when I arrive home, still, Im quite new to these over-clocking stuff, could you please tell me how to check the RAM's clock and set it to my desired value? At the BIOS or with some software?

Usually in your BOIS, under advanced chipset features on award BIOS or under advanced mode in UEFI and AI tweaker, memory timings are usually set to Auto, but some are pre-clocked.

Okay, I've chcked these frequencies, and found that the DDR3 RAM 1333 MHz ios running at 667, which means 667*3=2000 for each module? (2x4) Is that okay? Also, in the BOIS the RAM frequency is at AUTO as you said, but i cannot find 1333, but like 1248, 1420, etc. There is no 1333, should I use the one nelow the 1333? I've attached a screenshot of my system info, pls check it, don't know if it helps.

 

[Boozad]

667 is correct. 667 x 2 = 1333. All is good there.

 

[MrNeeds]

It's dual channel RAM, as Boozad has said, all good

 

[bigbadwolf]

Since the GPU driver update no crahes, but ill give it another week to make sure its gone

 

[3D Jed]

It's dual channel RAM, as Boozad has said, all good

the 2 referred to here

667 is correct. 667 x 2 = 1333. All is good there.

is the 2 from DDR ie double data rate

 

[Boozad]

It's dual channel RAM, as Boozad has said, all good

the 2 referred to here

667 is correct. 667 x 2 = 1333. All is good there.

is the 2 from DDR ie double data rate

The 2 refers to the fact that the memory is running dual channel, so 2 channels of 667 gives you 1333MHz. My DDR3 RAM is running at 1600MHz in dual channel, this shot of Speccy shows how it is 800MHz x 2.

 

[Layback Bear]

I have a silly question.
What power supply (exactly) are you using?

Could you also include it in your system specs?

 

[3D Jed]

The 2 refers to the fact that the memory is running dual channel, so 2 channels of 667 gives you 1333MHz. My DDR3 RAM is running at 1600MHz in dual channel, this shot of Speccy shows how it is 800MHz x 2.

DDR means double data rate. The data is transferred on the leading and trailing edges of the clock pulse. 1600MHz ram has a clock speed of 800MHz, but the DDR means this is equivalent to 1600MHz. I have built plenty of systems with a single stick of ram. Aida64 shows the clock speed as half that stated on the ram, but the ram has an effective speed of twice the clock speed. Dual channel doubles the bandwidth not the speed.

Google it - this is the 1st result i got:
For instance, DDR400 memories work at 400 MHz at the most, DDR2-800 can work up to 800 MHz, and DDR3-1333 can work up to 1,333 MHz. It is important to note that this is not the real clock speed of the memory. The real clock of the DDR, DDR2, and DDR3 memories is half of the labeled clock speed.

Understanding RAM Timings | Hardware Secrets

edit - 2 screenshots from a 3770 i7 with one stick of 8GB ram. Note the speeds (Aida64)





real clock 667, effective clock 1333

 

[bigbadwolf]

So... after like 3 weeks, my comp got the freeze again, the same way it did earlier. As i know, I did not update myself any driver I just have no idea what to do. Someone tell me please.

Edit1: So far, I've checked if there are any new drivers avaiable, I've downloaded an audio driver, also found a beta GPU driver but I didn't downloaded that. Now checking things with driver verifier.... Let's suppose it's a driver-related issue.

Edit2: ndisrd.sys is crashing my system with the driver verifier, not the same way as the crash occurs, but its crashing my comp for sure. I found this driver earlier guilty, but it came to be with the latest ethernet driver installed, and the comp freeze occured with this and the older driver also. Still it could be interesting. (Realtek Semiconductor, driver helper, if I delete it , the internet connection is lost, no virus found).

 

[bigbadwolf]

I have a silly question.
What power supply (exactly) are you using?

Could you also include it in your system specs?

Coolermaster GX-Lite 700W RS700-ASABL3-EU(Ö1)