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I have XP and Windows 7 (7048) installed on an old computer. When I open "msconfig"....XP is not there (in the boot tab). Shouldn't it be there so I can choose the default OS to boot. I really want to put 7 on my Vista machine but need to learn how to properly dual boot. I have read tutorials and am following them word for word. Is there a tutorial on this site about how to dual boot 7 with Vista and XP? Thanks.
 

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Windows 7 Professional x64
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Intel Core i7 860
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Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
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4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20
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MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr
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Hello Nate.

Msconfig doesn't show the boot records irrelevant with Windows 7.

To do what you want, you could download EasyBCD or use BCDEDIT.

Here's a way to do everything with BCDEDIT:

First you need to assign a drive letter to your XP partition so that Windows 7 can "see" it.

To do that: Open Control Panel - Administrative Tools- Computer Management. In Computer Management, on the left pane click Disk Management. Under disk management you will find a partition without a letter. Right click on it and choose "Change Drive Letter and Paths" to give a letter to your partition. e.g. D:

Now the bcdedit part:

1. Open an elevated command prompt (run as administrator)
2. type:
(to create an XP boot record)

bcdedit /create {ntldr} /d "Windows XP"

bcdedit /set {ntldr} device partition=d:
(or the letter you assigned your XP partition above)

bcdedit /set {ntldr} path \ntldr

bcdedit /displayorder {ntldr} /addlast

Reboot and you should see an XP boot entry and be able to boot from XP.

If you need a Vista guide, please post back.

Hope it helps.
 

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ENIAC
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Windows 7 RC 7100 32bit/64bit
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Intel Core2Duo E4500 2.20 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5LD2-X/1333
Memory
2x1GB Kinsgston DDR2 800MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 8500GT
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Onboard High Definition Audio Device
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Sony Bravia 42"
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LINKW 2222
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Standard Intel
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Some cheap one
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Microsoft Intellimouse something
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Thanks Limneos. I assume your instructions are from within Windows 7. While Windows 7 is running as the OS right?

Also, there is already a drive letter (D) within 7. That's what XP is on. It's "C" while XP is running. I am just wondering, I don't need to assign the letter if it's already there right? Should I follow the other directions from the elevated prompt?

Also when I start up, the boot manager says "older versions of Windows" as an option. I just don't dare try it. Last time I had to reinstall both OS.

Also...I just put Windows 7 on my Vista PC using VM. It seems to be very nice. I will use those directions on my XP machine. Thanks again.
 
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My Computer

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OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 860
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
Memory
4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Onboard realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900)
Hard Drives
Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives
PSU
Corsair 750 HX Modular
Case
Lancool PC-K62
Cooling
Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case
Keyboard
Gigabyte USB keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000
Internet Speed
7 Mb down 1.5 up
Other Info
System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM.
Hello again.

Yes, these instructions are for Windows 7, while you're running Windows 7.

And yes, if you already can see your XP partition and you know which one it is, you don't need to assign any letter. Just use that letter instead (since its D: its the same I assumed)

Hope it helps.
 

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ENIAC
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Windows 7 RC 7100 32bit/64bit
CPU
Intel Core2Duo E4500 2.20 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5LD2-X/1333
Memory
2x1GB Kinsgston DDR2 800MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 8500GT
Sound Card
Onboard High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Sony Bravia 42"
Case
LINKW 2222
Cooling
Standard Intel
Keyboard
Some cheap one
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse something
Internet Speed
24MBps ADSL
Now the bcdedit part:

1. Open an elevated command prompt (run as administrator)
2. type:
(to create an XP boot record)

bcdedit /create {ntldr} /d "Windows XP"

bcdedit /set {ntldr} device partition=d:
(or the letter you assigned your XP partition above)

bcdedit /set {ntldr} path \ntldr

bcdedit /displayorder {ntldr} /addlast

Reboot and you should see an XP boot entry and be able to boot from XP.

If you need a Vista guide, please post back.

Hope it helps.

I hope you don't think this is completely crazy but I have no experience with command prompts. These are not working. Do there need to be spaces? I have tried a few different ways. One said it was already done. The rest would not work. I will start reading about it but if there is a simple rule, please let me know. Thanks.
 

My Computer

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Keeps changing - (Custom)
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 860
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
Memory
4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Onboard realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900)
Hard Drives
Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives
PSU
Corsair 750 HX Modular
Case
Lancool PC-K62
Cooling
Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case
Keyboard
Gigabyte USB keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000
Internet Speed
7 Mb down 1.5 up
Other Info
System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM.
Hi Nate,

You could type

bcdedit {return}

and post a screenshot of what is listed , like this:

BCDEDIT2009-03-07_235226.jpg

SIW2
 

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    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Hi Nate

There are spaces in some areas, not in others.
(s)=space

Ex:

bcdedit(s)/create(s){ntldr}(s)/d(s)"Windows XP"

Note that there is no space between the / and the next word, which is the command
/set .. /create .. /displayfolder

But there is a space after that, to the object being created or set or displayed
/set {ntldr}

So basically, there is no space in the command switch (/set) but then there is before the object it's to work on ({ntldr})
and then a space after that to another command switch or object path (\ntdlr)
/set(s){ntldr}(s)path(s)\ntldr

/=command
\=path

Note that the path sign (\) is Not in the line /d "Windows XP", as that "d" isn't the path, it stands for Description. That one confuses some people who're working on the D: path ;)
 

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Logitech MX 5500
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Logitech MX Revolution
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Blazing...
Hi Nate,

Chappy makes a good point - you have to enter them correctly.

You could try copying and pasting from Limneos post into the cmd prompt.

SIW2
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
I can get it to work now. Here is my screen shot. Does everything look right? I re-installed XP and Windows 7. It was a long way to fix the problem. Next time I will talk to you nice people first. Thanks.
View attachment 5551

Also...thanks for the info Chappy. That's good info I need to save.
 
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My Computer

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Keeps changing - (Custom)
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 860
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
Memory
4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Onboard realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900)
Hard Drives
Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives
PSU
Corsair 750 HX Modular
Case
Lancool PC-K62
Cooling
Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case
Keyboard
Gigabyte USB keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000
Internet Speed
7 Mb down 1.5 up
Other Info
System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM.
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