Australia Imposes Internet Filter

[jimbo45]

Hi all
As I said - a lot of this stuff is just "Hot Air" - presumably just trying to make "Global Warming" a reality to a largely sceptical public in Nothern Europe (and parts of Eastern USA) suffering the COLDEST WINTER in YEARS.

Politicians are LIGHT YEARS behind the technicians -- If Mainland China hasn't been 100% successful in totally controlling access to the Internet with all its huge resources for State Control I doubt whether some "amateur Politicians" are going to block a load of resourceful Aussies from doing so.

My experience on my travels is that when I meet Aussies I find that they are an exceedingly resourceful bunch so they shouldn't have any problem with getting round this type of B/S.

Perhaps at your next elections EVERYWHERE there should be a World Coalition called Anything But xxxxxxx where xxxxxxx is the current ruling party / group in your country.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Night Hawk]

Bbbrrrrrrrr..... I know that part well enough! That's not the weather either but the cold reaction to the new legislation being pondered over. But now you are starting to get well offtrack from the article itself.

 

[kronckew]

what is 'crime'? it can be anything the state wants it to be.

blowing the whistle on parliamentary corruption is a crime here in the UK, the police even arrested an opposition mp while he was in his office at parliament when the govt. asked them to as he'd released info on the ruling labour party misdeeds.

the police routinely arrest tourists & locals for taking photos of buildings like st. pauls cathedral, and taking a photo of a policeman can get you arrested, all under the all-inclusive anti-terrorist acts which let them do pretty much what they want to.

one of the local councils used the anti-terrorist act to spy on a parent to try to prove they did not actually live in the catchment area for the school they had applied to for their children (turned out they were innocent).

 

[MyWin7]

Yes, the UK system got very rogue to protect political corruption! The whole world knows that...

 

[Zidane24]

Yes, the UK system got very rogue to protect political corruption! The whole world knows that...

What the whole world knows is that there isn't a govt. that Doesn't protect political corruption in some way or another...

The UK are the ones that got caught

 

[jimbo45]

Yes, the UK system got very rogue to protect political corruption! The whole world knows that...

While OT -- it should be remembered that the UK used Anti-Terrorist legislation against Iceland in attempting to retrieve money after their local councils had destroyed our Banks while playing Casino with their taxpayers money.

(Actually we really didn't need any help from the UK in destroying the Banks -- our Govt was managing very successfully on its own Thank You).

However back to the point - It's almost IMPOSSIBLE to shut something down like the Internet

Even way back in 1956 during the "Hungarian Uprising" word and pictures still got out about what was happening in spite of the Old Soviet Union having what they thought 100% total control of all media and telecommunications.

Any decent technical guru will be able to circumvent this stuff in seconds.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[MyWin7]

What the whole world knows is that there isn't a govt. that Doesn't protect political corruption in some way or another...

The UK are the ones that got caught

sorry, just OT for a minute:
Is there a similar whistle-blower legislation in the US too, I wonder? I do not know any other country having such a blatantly self serving legislation in power.

 

[spinifex]

Even way back in 1956 during the "Hungarian Uprising" word and pictures still got out about what was happening in spite of the Old Soviet Union having what they thought 100% total control of all media and telecommunications.

Any decent technical guru will be able to circumvent this stuff in seconds.

Cheers
jimbo

Sadly i remeber when that happened. There was a huge amount of protesters in Amsterdam, throwing rocks, etc, at the windows of the Russian embassy.
I was 9 at the time, and had forgotten about it till i read your post. It doesn't take long for word to get around, even if it was back in 56'.

I'm far from being a computer guru, but depending what gets cencored, i'm sure i could find a way around to get to where i want to be. Intarwebs are full of information.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

What the whole world knows is that there isn't a govt. that Doesn't protect political corruption in some way or another...

The UK are the ones that got caught

sorry, just OT for a minute:
Is there a similar whistle-blower legislation in the US too, I wonder? I do not know any other country having such a blatantly self serving legislation in power.

No there is no such law in the US; some even consider "whistleblowing" a good thing to do.

 

[smarteyeball]

i'm sure i could find a way around to get to where i want to be. Intarwebs are full of information.

That there are and will be, but the point is - we should not have to.

 

[kodi]

Problem is that the Government is spending a Truckload of money on this.
They should be spending it on better Healthcare and Schools.

 

[smarteyeball]

Problem is that the Government is spending a Truckload of money on this.
They should be spending it on better Healthcare and Schools.

But that is logical. Politics and logic have no business being in the same sentence.

 

[DarkDavil]

Once this gets going, it'll never end. We will truly live in an Orwellian society then...T_T

 

[Orpheous]

I like the new avatar smarteyeball.... you inspired me to mess with Senator Stephen Conroy - Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy

 

[Cruise]

So long internet. Its been a fun ride while it lasted.
Be ready for Government approved sites only in a couple, yes possibly, 2 short years.

 

[noel55]

governments cannot run their own countries. they have no hope with the www

 

[macgyver2]

Govt. Will do what they want, how they want when they want. I worked for the US Govt. for 10 years with different Cyber/tech divisions of law enforcement. I did things I know where wrong but was asked to do so in the defense of my country and to protect the citizens of America. Cyber crimes happen. No matter if there are filters or computers are built not to be able to show content people that want it will get it! Look at any jail, drugs cell phones etc all make it inside. Here in Florida 2 guards tried(different jails I think) to bring guns to prisoners.

Crimes will happen either on the net or the real world. Stopping piracy, child pictures or what ever will never be 100% effective as someone will always wonder if they can get around it as a challenge and once someone does for good or bad word will spread.

Look at history here the human race has tried to stop many thing, piracy of software or on the oceans, guns, religions etc etc etc and ALL have failed, and the reason is simple where there is free will there will be a way for good or bad. We can't take away free will, at least not yet, so the criminals will commit the crimes while the rest of us try and protect ourselves and our children the best we can and if history has taught me anything it's that most Governments give the largest amount of false sense safety then they do protecting the citizens that elected them in the fist place.

Even if the internet becomes censored digital files will find there way around the world. Its when people start thinking about making filters for our brains that will get me worried and if your a conspiracy person the aliens have already started doing this anyway.

Oh and one last thing, I find it funny how we as in the human race have abused ourselves yet we want to censor out these parts but yet we are told we need to learn from our mistakes, how can we learn from it if we censor it out? how can the doctors help the child if they can't access that info?

Just my opinion seen from a fathers eyes and who has been inside the Govt and outside.

 

[smarteyeball]

I like the new avatar smarteyeball.... you inspired me to mess with Senator Stephen Conroy - Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy

Nice mate

He was my next target but good to see you have it covered

 

[Win7User512]

THE Federal Government is pushing ahead with its controversial plan to filter the internet, saying illegal material can be blocked "with 100 per cent accuracy and negligible impact on internet speed"

Government pushes forward with internet filtering | News.com.au

That is a bummer...if that happened in the US I would be outraged

Many of us are outraged; but if the government gets it right and it only blocks "child sex abuse content, bestiality, sexual violence and the detailed instruction of crime and drug use" (quote from article), then I have no problem with it and it should be a good thing. However as an Australian, I am suspect that this 'filter' will open Pandora's box and in years to come we may find all sorts of things blocked. I don't want Australia to become the new North Korea or China of the internet.

Just wait until it is speech and expression that the government doesn't like.

 

[garysgold]

They already don't like it. They just haven't figured out how to stop it without a revolt. You can be sure that they are working on it. This sounds like an excellent first step in that direction. Get things started with something most people despise like child porn. Then later you can start quietly slipping other things onto the list.