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[Layback Bear]

All I can say is Bad News with some China connection.
Chinese cybercrooks offer DDoS-for-hire • The Register

 

[lorddenis]

isnt dosing ilegal?

 

[Keiichi25]

Yes, DDoS attacks are very illegal. Does not mean people can't try and profit from it. There is Murder for Hire, there are thieves who will steal something for someone else... There are many illegal things people sell services to. And there are ways many people look or acquire such services in order to make it happen.

Just remember, there will always be people who will work on the underside as well as above board.

 

[lorddenis]

cant the law track these atackers?

 

[whs]

cant the law track these atackers?

In China??? - LOL.

 

[lorddenis]

well they have to have an ip addres..

 

[Anak]

well they have to have an ip addres..

Have you stopped to think that "they" could be the Chinese Government?

 

[Layback Bear]

The Chinese Government says they are trying to stop this kind of thing, they wouldn't lie to the world, would they.

 

[madtownidiot]

Of course it's illegal.. Of course the US lacks the means, (or the will to use the means), to stop it. The only answer is when your computer is acting slow at times and you can't figure out why because your AV and firewall haven't detected anything funny going on, the best thing to do is the 3R solution(see signature below). What we should be doing is firewalling china, pakistan, north korea, most former russian states and all those obnoxious terrorist sponsoring countries from the outside.

 

[Layback Bear]

I like you suggestion madtownidiot, those countries would just have to try there new botnets and virus on each other. Very good idea.

 

[madtownidiot]

I like you suggestion madtownidiot, those countries would just have to try there new botnets and virus on each other. Very good idea.

I imagine state sponsored crackers would be shut down very quickly in those countries if the entire set of IP addresses for each corresponding nation were suddenly isolated from the rest of the world.

 

[malexous]

Company Paid to Launch DoS Attacks Against Torrent Sites - Softpedia

In retaliation:

site:softpedia.com 4chan ddos - Google Search

 

[madtownidiot]

Now, if only they would target really obnoxious sites like freecreditreport.com ....I really hate those commercials

 

[Borg 386]

Oh there's lots of places out there that will launch an attack on a site...for the right price.

You can now rent a botnet for as cheap as 12 to 35$ an hour...and you usually get a bargain price if you rent it for 24 hours.

There are trojan kits for rent or sale also, complete with tech assistance if you need help using them or setting them up. (Updates included in the price of some)

Nothing surprises me anymore...

@madtownidiot...nice avatar. All too true

 

[Anak]

The Chinese Government says they are trying to stop this kind of thing, they wouldn't lie to the world, would they.

:roflmao:
I hope you had your tongue planted firmly in cheek when you typed that....

I like you suggestion madtownidiot, those countries would just have to try there new botnets and virus on each other. Very good idea.

I imagine state sponsored crackers would be shut down very quickly in those countries if the entire set of IP addresses for each corresponding nation were suddenly isolated from the rest of the world.

It is certainly do-able.
I seem to recall google being "isolated" from a certain country.
I haven't keep up with whether or not they regained full access or not.

Now, if only they would target really obnoxious sites like freecreditreport.com ....I really hate those commercials

Two that get to me:
finallyfast, and MyPC.

Why any reputable media outlet would even consider running ads that are scare-ware.....
Oh! That's right $,$$$,$$$.$$

Oh there's lots of places out there that will launch an attack on a site...for the right price.

You can now rent a botnet for as cheap as 12 to 35$ an hour...and you usually get a bargain price if you rent it for 24 hours.

There are trojan kits for rent or sale also, complete with tech assistance if you need help using them or setting them up. (Updates included in the price of some)

Nothing surprises me anymore...

@madtownidiot...nice avatar. All too true

Anyone remember the late 50's TV western, Paladin?
From the theme song, "A knight without armor in a savage land."

Instead of "Have Gun - Will Travel" it should be "Have Programming - Will Distribute"

 

[madtownidiot]

Two that get to me:
finallyfast, and MyPC.

Why any reputable media outlet would even consider running ads that are scare-ware.....
Oh! That's right $,$$$,$$$.$$

oh.. didn't think of them.. but IMO anyone stupid enough to take those commercials at face value should not be allowed near a computer anyway. Those commercials are really obnoxious too but I've never met anyone who's actually tried those scams.. Maybe they even work

 

[Keiichi25]

well they have to have an ip addres..

Having an IP Address does not necessarily do much.

Back in the 80s, there was a movie called 'Sneakers'. With Robert Redford, Sidney Poitier, River Phoenix, Dan Aykroyd.

The same method that people use to make calls difficult to trace, good hackers use to cover their tracks by bouncing off several compromised servers to prevent people from pinning them down. And yes, I am using a fantasized story with regards to something that should be RL, but the fact is, some things portrayed in movies are things people will try and do to cover their tracks.

Meanwhile, even if you DO get the originator's IP, That person's IP might be behind an ISP shared pool, which is not necessarily assigned to one person. Current Cable and DSL ISPs DHCP their IPs to the users, and sometimes those change on a month to month basis, even under an always on situation. Unless you pay for a static connection, your connection is never going to have a static IP. Part of this is also to prevent certain people from abusing their lower consumer grade bandwidth with you hosting your own server when you should be paying a higher tier connection to do that.

In either case, the last hurdle will be geographic location. Attacks on one system in one country does not mean that country can pursue, legally, someone in another country. While it is a crime, the most one country can do is inform another country of being violated or attacked by someone within the offending country and even then, the offending country has to actually gather corroborating proof that the claim is true, otherwise it devolves into issues of who is telling the truth.

Remember, our current world affairs, even 'friendly' countries don't quite trust the other friendly country with certain things. In this era, information and cyberwarfare is the new Cold War. Each country would love to have their cyber hackers tagged and collected because those will be the people who will be part of the front lines trying to get the much needed information that combat needs at time.

 

[Layback Bear]

I just thought of this scenario. A person want a free registry cleaner that isn't free using a torrent through a botnet. Now is that a computer bomb just waiting to go boom.

 

[lorddenis]

I just thought of this scenario. A person want a free registry cleaner that isn't free using a torrent through a botnet. Now is that a computer bomb just waiting to go boom.

i think that i dont understand... that program clean's a registry?

 

[Keiichi25]

I just thought of this scenario. A person want a free registry cleaner that isn't free using a torrent through a botnet. Now is that a computer bomb just waiting to go boom.

i think that i dont understand... that program clean's a registry?

Basically, Layback is presenting a scenario where you are trying to get a 'free' registry cleaner from a questionable source, in this case, a bit torrent bot net...

The 'free' part implying it is hacked or cracked. Which, in itself, is still questionable and is often just a way to put yourself at risk at some point in time as it might have a time delayed code to mess with your system.

Time delayed viruses are the hardest to pin down because most people don't know they are infected until it goes off. Most viruses tend to propagate, trying to infect as many computers as it can, which sets off alarms. Time delayed ones are less noticeable unless someone trips over it by accident and triggers it or notices something 'out of the ordinary'... But most people who try to get the 'free' software, often times don't notice it until it is too late.