Best overall option for older games on Win7 64x?

ElDavicho

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I'm weighing my options with the realization that I won't be able to satifactoraly play most of my pre-2005 games on my shiney new Win7 Home Premium 64x OS.

Which of the following would be my best option:

1. Install Virtual PC (can't use XP Mode) with my Windows XP 32bit ISO
2. Install XP as a Dual Boot option
3. Install Linux as a Dual Boot option

Of course, since my new PC uses NVIDIA Optimus I'm not sure if any of these are viable.
 

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Dual boot with XP would be faster than Virtual PC, but not as convenient to enter, as it would require a reboot.

If the games you will be playing are resource intensive, I recommend the dual boot with XP. Otherwise, the convenience of Virtual PC attracts me.

If the games run in Ubuntu, and you don't have a copy of XP with a product key, go for the Ubuntu dual boot. Ubuntu is free, XP is not.
 

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VirtualBox vclaims to have hardware acelleration for video. I haven't tried it (the video acelleration) myself but might look into that. I do like VirtualBox a lot otherwise.

But as far as games go, I think it's just the DOS 16 bit games that are an absolute no go, with a few exceptions for others here and there...

Fo the others, try the ussual suspects (RunAs Admin and Emulate XP etc...) ANd google for each game, frequently there is a solution
 

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Dual boot with XP would be faster than Virtual PC, but not as convenient to enter, as it would require a reboot.

If the games you will be playing are resource intensive, I recommend the dual boot with XP. Otherwise, the convenience of Virtual PC attracts me.

If the games run in Ubuntu, and you don't have a copy of XP with a product key, go for the Ubuntu dual boot. Ubuntu is free, XP is not.

VirtualBox vclaims to have hardware acelleration for video. I haven't tried it (the video acelleration) myself but might look into that. I do like VirtualBox a lot otherwise.

But as far as games go, I think it's just the DOS 16 bit games that are an absolute no go, with a few exceptions for others here and there...

Fo the others, try the ussual suspects (RunAs Admin and Emulate XP etc...) ANd google for each game, frequently there is a solution

Thanks for the tips guys, it's mostly my old Infinity Engine games (Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, etc.) that won't run, they don't get anywhere close to running. I haven't been able to find solutions online.

Before extreme measures I'm going to try installing the 32bit C++ files as suggested in another thread. Worst comes to worst I'll probably install Ubuntu as my 'old school' game OS, as I prefer to keep my W7 clean from complicated things like Virtual PC...

How can I emulate XP? Through compatibility mode?
 

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Yeah, Compatibility Mode, I had a brain fart there and could not remember the exact term for it :D
 

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I've run several old (non-game) DOS utilities in Win7 64 using D-Fend Reloaded as a GUI front end loader/emulator. It's meant for games but I've used it for years in XP, now in 7.64 for ancient DOS stuff like electronic circuit analysis programs.

As for dual-boot, I use it, it's easy and reliable. The main problem I find is that I rarely use XP, so when I do use it, there's always plenty of updates (AV, etc.) to run.
 

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Yeah, Compatibility Mode, I had a brain fart there and could not remember the exact term for it :D

Lol, gottcha... i tried all the compatibility modes and none of it worked.

The issue is odd, because the game doesn't even attempt to load. It immediately gives me the error.

Is there something I needed to do when installing it to begin with?

Also, is Virtual PC slow?
 

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Virtual PC and Virtual Box (Two different products) are surprisingly fast, but. yes slower in certain ways. As I said I've not tried the hardware acelleration for video to play a game in VirtualBox. BUT VirtualBox is free to DL and use and if it doesn't work you can just uninstall it. I'd try that before dual booting since it's so much handier. But it may still be likely that you need to dual boot to get full hardware acess for gaming.
 

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i7 960
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Asus P6X58D
Memory
12 Gig Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 480
Sound Card
Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors
Screen Resolution
1920x1200 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode.
PSU
Corasair TX850
Case
Cooler Master HAF
Cooling
Corsair H50
Keyboard
Logitech G15 + N52 game pad
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
15kbs down 4.5kbps up
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WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
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just a quick update, I installed VirtualBox and I am officially a fan. It was the smoothest XP installation I've ever done, and it runs these games flawlessly (so far) without sacrificing any performance on my Host (W7) side. Win XP is a little slower than usual as a guest, but since I shut down almost every service (just to play games) it's actually faster than it was as my main OS.

Awesome stuff, far simpler than I expected.
 

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Great, thanks for posting back. I'm glad you came to a decision you like. :)

Let us know if you need anything else.
 

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16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2x Acer S273HLbmii 27"
Screen Resolution
2 x 1920x1080
Hard Drives
64GB Crucial M4 SSD

Storage: Hitachi 1TB 5400RPM, Samsung 1.5TB 5400RPM
PSU
Corsair HW Series 750w (modular)
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition
Cooling
CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK320 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK320 (wireless)
Internet Speed
30 Mb/s : 2 Mb/s
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