Beta invites have started being sent out.

They better not do that. That would seriously damage my love for Microsoft. Keeping the 32bit around is a good idea, but it is time to put the x64 release into the #1 priority spot. It should no longer always be a "later" thing.

I agree, sort of. The 64bit W7 that I have installed still has many more issues than either of the W7 32 bit that I have installed and I would rather it came out a bit later and worked than come out at the same time and have problems.

Gary
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
I agree, sort of. The 64bit W7 that I have installed still has many more issues than either of the W7 32 bit that I have installed and I would rather it came out a bit later and worked than come out at the same time and have problems.

Gary

I agree with that, except the reason that the 64 bit is lagging behind in terms of stuff is probably because they were focusing too much on the 32 bit already ... which is not a good sign at all! Or perhaps the issues are software related issues that are not Microsoft's fault?
 
I'm sure it has to do with both MS and the software vendors. No flash player for 64 bit IE is a glaring example, but whenever I use 6936 x64, I cannot click on Disk Management without the window crashing. It says loading the disk info. and then nothing. That doesn't happen in either of the 32 bit builds I'm running. That is a MS problem or might be that I need to reinstall, but I'm just going to wait for the beta.

I do agree that it's time for 32bit to go the way of 16bit, but all the ducks must be in a row first and some of the ducks haven't been very cooperative of late. I seem to remember reading that Vista was supposed to be the last 32 bit Windows, but obviously something or someone convinced MS otherwise.

Gary
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
32 bit is still the mainstream...
i know
i know
64 bit is growing but right now its not there yet..
one example stoping 64 bit is the flash and adobe either being stubborn and only distributing 32 bit (only allowing 32 bit browsers to use it) or that it is that hard to develop it

but either way most OEM's dont see the need yet (said most i know for the fact that the big OEM's do offer 64 bit [i got 64 from hp])

and i really hate how they handled the patchguard and how they not give enough power to run programs such as sanboxie (which has legitamate uses to acess protected memory)

if ms were to bring a light sanbox (meaning that it would allow competition also have acess) i will change my mind

but my relationship with 64 vista and W7 is both of love and hate...lol


edit opps took too long to reply...lol



I seem to remember reading that Vista was supposed to be the last 32 bit Windows, but obviously something or someone convinced MS otherwise.

Gary


or they might be scared....lol
of the outlash that will happen with 64 is more or less the "locked-down" in the kernel (patchguard)
i would see that it can be possible to both integrate both (patchguard)(AV and FW that need kernel patching) with the use of certificates...
the only you can access the kernel is with a legitimate cert.
(like the way drivers need certificates to actually use 64-bit drivers)


i cant wait till this happens

The idea is that our future operating systems would always be running inside a virtual machine under the watchful eye of an OS "hypervisor." This has not been practical before now, without hardware support for virtualization, because virtualization required too much real-time involvement of software which introduced an unacceptable amount of overhead and slowed everything down. Hardware virtualization means that virtual machines - and even the entire operating system running inside a virtual machine container - would be able to run at 100% full speed, thus making a persistent security-oriented OS "hypervisor" practical for the first time.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server
OS
Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
CPU
Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4)
Motherboard
IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS
Memory
OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012
Monitor(s) Displays
built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19"
Screen Resolution
1280x800 /1440x900
Cooling
All Air Cooled
Mouse
Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k...
Other Info
love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Vista X32. Windows 7 32bit
CPU
Intel Quad Core 6600
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4096 MB Xtreme-Dark 800mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac Amp Edition 8800GT - 512MB DDR3, O/C 700mhz
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 206BW
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1024
Hard Drives
4 X Samsung 500GB 7200rpm Serial ATA-II HDD w. 16MB Cache .
PSU
550 w
Case
Thermaltake
Cooling
3 x octua NF-S12-1200 - 120mm 1200RPM Sound Optimised Fans
Keyboard
Microsoft
Mouse
Targus
Internet Speed
1500kbs
The disk management works fine on my install of 6936. But either way it is just a bug, and I am sure 6956 has it's share as well. Not that it will matter much with all the x86 kiddies only hours away from all getting to run 7000 instead :( :( :(

I hate you Microsoft. leak the good one.
 
be nice Diamond....
everyone has there different views on much archecture is good for them...
i can tell you this since i have both 32 and 64 machines in my house (damm stupid sound card doesnt have 64-bit drivers even online cant buy a new one as not enough money after christmas.. )
sure i have gotten my share of doubts and i also know 64 is the future but i also hate MS and the patchguard fiasco (i like to call it that).....
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server
OS
Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
CPU
Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4)
Motherboard
IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS
Memory
OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012
Monitor(s) Displays
built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19"
Screen Resolution
1280x800 /1440x900
Cooling
All Air Cooled
Mouse
Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k...
Other Info
love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
Haha, yeah, I was kidding though. I love Microsoft to pieces. :)
 
Yup it realy hurt me to put an x86 build on my system.....what a waste :(
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 11
Yup it realy hurt me to put an x86 build on my system.....what a waste :(

Yup, yours is a bit better than mine, and I still haven't convinced myself to do it. You must have been crying! :)
 
I resisted the temptation all yesterday, but today curiosity got the better of me.

It wasn't long before I decided to boot back into Vistax64 and wait for the 7 x64 release though.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 11
Yup it realy hurt me to put an x86 build on my system.....what a waste :(

I know what you mean, but I need the latest version to make sure the tutorials have the correct screenshots with them. :(

I'll be happy when there is a 64-bit version available.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built custom
OS
64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
CPU
Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
Memory
64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
Sound Card
Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
PSU
Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
Case
Thermaltake Core P3
Cooling
Corsair Hydro H115i
Keyboard
Logitech wireless K800
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 4
Internet Speed
2 Gb/s Download and 100 Mb/s Upload
Antivirus
Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
Browser
Google Chrome
Other Info
Logitech Z625 speaker system,
Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
Galaxy S23 Plus phone

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4
Motherboard
Gigabyte 880
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce HD
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB
PSU
Thermalake 550w
Case
XCase
Internet Speed
8MB
Nothing wrong with that but some of us just cannot help ourselves, have to know what is under the hood.:o
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4
Motherboard
Gigabyte 880
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce HD
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB
PSU
Thermalake 550w
Case
XCase
Internet Speed
8MB
Haven't been back into an x86 windows for about a week, Vista or Windows 7. Am downloading and may install over my 6801 x32 but mainly want this build so I've got the complete set, :geek::o
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Nothing wrong with that but some of us just cannot help ourselves, have to know what is under the hood.:o

Something new to play with!










Later :shock: Ted
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
* BFK Customs *
OS
W 7 64-bit Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q Pro
Memory
8GB Dominator 8500C5D
Graphics Card(s)
ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
Monitor(s) Displays
1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
Case
Cooler Master RC-690
Cooling
Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
Keyboard
Microsoft 500
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
14 Mb/s
Other Info
1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack
Gives us something to do until the public beta comes out. Would like to see both 32 and 64 bit come out together, but I'm not holding my breath.

Gary
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
Actually, I am guessing that 64bit *will* be out soon enough.

I am just hoping that they haven't forgotten use DevCon attendees....
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    The Beast Model A (homebrew)
    OS
    Windows 11 21H2 Current build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spec
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Plat
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + MB 3
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable),Chrome, Edge
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell Latitude E5470
    OS
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Gives us something to do until the public beta comes out. Would like to see both 32 and 64 bit come out together, but I'm not holding my breath.

Gary

I don't see why the would not release them together but maybe they don't have everything they need for the 64 bit edition.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 & 32 Build 7022
CPU
6600 2.40 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
Motherboard
Nvidia nForce 650i Ultra
Memory
4096 GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
512 MB Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS PCI E
Hard Drives
2 x 250 GB Western Digital SATA
1 x 500 GB Western Digital SATA
1 x 250 GB Western Digital SATA USB
1 x 80 GB Western Digital IDE
PSU
600 Watt
Case
Custom
Cooling
Zalman
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX 700 Wireless Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
Fios
Other Info
Also a Dell Inspiron E1505 1.6 Core Duo with 2GB DDR2, 320GB HDD running dual boot Windows 7 32 build 7057 & XP Pro 32 SP3.
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