Boot Manager, missing from formatted Hdd.

Bertison

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Building a budget system for my son. Details:
Originals: Corsair case, Sapphire AMD HD5670, LiteOn DVDRW, 2x 140mm front fans, 1x 120mm rear fan and 1x 120 mm top fan. 500Watt Thermaltake PSU, tested with my trusty old PSU tester, all rails OK.

New bits: Gigabyte A320M-S2h mobo, AMD Ryzen3 1200, 1x 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2400 MHz. All fans and lights including graphics card kick in at start.

This build needed when his ancient Gigabyte ATX board blew its cookies. Phenom IIX4 HSF and CPU are still good, selling on hopefully. His 1TB Samsung Hdd was blown along with the board and I had a good Seagate 1TB that I had used once before replacing with a 2TB WD Blue that is in my system alongside a Sandisk 480GB SSD. The 1TB SG was working fine before I formatted it.

Tried to install the SG 1 TB to son's new build and install Windows 7 Home, which began to install but then the USB mouse and Keyboard stopped working and I could not proceed past US KB settings. Trying to install Win 7 gave the message "Boot Mgr Missing. Press Ctrl - Alt -Delete to start." Nothing worked. Installed the Hdd in my old but good ICYbox external Case and reformatted. Where do I go from here please? Can't get mouse and KB working to install Win 7 from the disc, which will replace Boot Manager. I'm stuck!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
Other Info
NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
Is this still a question. It can be done, one way is to use ps2 mouse and keyboard.The ps2 connectors are on the back panel of that mobo.

Or you can use this
Windows 7 Image Updater - SkyLake\KabyLake\CoffeLake\Ryzen Threadripper - VideoHelp Forum

Windows_7_Image_Updater

Or after installing using ps2 mouse and keyboard, you can install the 3000 series usb3 mod drivers from here:

https://www.sevenforums.com/attachm...7-installation-media-amd-usb3-300-prex570.zip


Extract the zip
In device manager, right click the unrecognized USB controller "Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller" and choose "Update driver software"
Choose "Browse my computer for driver software"
Click "Browse" and direct it to the extracted folder
You will be prompted to install the driver software. Choose "Install anyway"
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Win 7 installation disk doesn't have SATA, MVMe and USB3.x drivers. For new motherboards you need to add them to the Win 7 installation disk.

Also you have to set BIOS properly.
- Update your BIOS to the latest version
- Set OS to "other"
- Set Fast boot and secure boot to disable.

Win 7 can be installed as Legacy-MBR or EFI-GPT.
To install as Legacy-MBR you MUST boot the installation disk as Legacy
To install as EFI-GPT you MUST boot the installation disk as EFI
You must delete ALL partitions on the disk. It will be created the necessary partitions.
https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html?filter[2]=General Tips
SIW2 is the guru for installing Win 7 on new MB.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
Thank you for all the advice.

Think I may have solved it. I was actually trying to install Win7/64 from disc without installing Gigabyte drivers first, which is what the Giga manual advised. I removed the Hdd, installed it into my Icybox case and used my PC to take a look at it. Admin Tools - Computer Management - Disk Management informed me that there was no MBR partition on the Hdd.


I formatted the Hdd again and switched off the case when Format finished, which is not what I did at first format. Restarted the case and Hdd: there was a small MBR partition. That's where I am at now, going to perform the medical procedure I have to do every day, shower and return to try again. My problem is that I have a very small room with limited space to work. This means that I have to strip one machine of cables, move it somewhere, install the other machine in its place. More time -consuming than it might appear, especially with a couple of disabilities. I shall persevere!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
Other Info
NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
I assume you mean partitioning style. A disk needs to be initialized as either mbr style or gpt style.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
I assume you mean partitioning style. A disk needs to be initialized as either mbr style or gpt style.


Yes thank you, after some research of Microsoft pages, I have now realised that I should have initialised the disk as GPT and not MBR. I am going to convert the disk by Diskpart in command prompt.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
bertison
OS
Windows 7/64 HPremium.
CPU
AMD FX-6300.
Motherboard
Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3.
Memory
Corsair (2x4) GB DDR3 CMXGX3M2A1337CL9.
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia/Gigabyte GT730 (2GB) GDDR5.
Sound Card
Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama PLE2407HDS.
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1280
Hard Drives
Desktop: 1TB. WD10EZEX-00BN5A0.
Zyxel nsa310 NAS: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.
Cache Drive: Sandisk SDSSDRC032G.
Laptop Lenovo B50/80 128 GB SSD.
PSU
Corsair 750M.
Case
Coolermaster N300.
Cooling
FRONT: (2X) 140mm. TOP: (1x) 120mm. REAR: (1x) 120mm.
Keyboard
Logitech K290
Mouse
Trust Optical Wired
Internet Speed
15 Mb Down, 0.55 Up.
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security 2017, Hitman Pro.
Browser
Firefox.
Other Info
NETWORK:
Sky "Q box" and router.
Desktop & NAS - 30 Metres Cat6 Ethernet wired, via TP-Link 4-port switch.
Lenovo B50/80 Laptop, 2x Wileyfox phones, Lenovo TAB3-8 tablet - all wireless.
Grandchildren, their parents and friends as bandwidth 'parasites' at various times!
If you want to install win7 in efi mode, use gpt.

If you want to use bios mode, then mbr
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Yes thank you, after some research of Microsoft pages, I have now realised that I should have initialised the disk as GPT and not MBR. I am going to convert the disk by Diskpart in command prompt.

You don't need to initialize, convert the HDD to GPT or use Diskpart.

During POST, launch the Boot MENU and select to boot the installation disk (USB flash or DVD) as EFI.
Go to install - Advanced and delete all partitions on the disk then proceed.
The installation wizard will set your disk as GPT , create the necessary partitions and install Win 7 64bits as UEFI-GPT
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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