Browsers Crashing

yossarian23

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I am having a problem with most of my browsers most of the time. I generally use Firefox or Chrome, and sometimes Opera. All of them are crashing. Firefox and Chrome in particular are crashing constantly. Chrome is often crashing when I load it, and certainly within minutes of running it. Firefox crashes within 5-6 minutes, if not sooner. With Firefox, I might click on a page and the browser stalls and I get the spinning circle (hourglass). Then, it crashes. Opera is more stable, but that is crashing quite a bit as well.

The problem did not exist when I had Vista. I didn't notice it when I first installed Windows 7. However, since I updated the chipset drivers, it has been a problem (I don't think it is because of that installation, but it is coincidental in timing). I tried uninstalling Flash using Revo Uninstaller, but the problem persists.
 

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HP
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Windows 7
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AMD Phenom 9550
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Pegatron
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon R4650 M1DG
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer h233h
Hard Drives
WD Caviar SE 640 GB
PSU
Corsair 400W
Case
HP

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Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
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Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
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Dell
Memory
6 gb
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ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
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Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
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Dell SP2009W 20"
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640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
I really don't know, but to have common problems in several related programs seems to indicate a common cause. Only two things come to mind...malware (virus, trojan, etc.) or firewall. I would check in that order. Run multiple malware checks with Malwarebyte, SpyBot, etc., then see what happens using a different firewall. Perhaps before doing these, you should try doing a System Restore to just prior to installing the chipset drivers.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
CPU
Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
Cooling
3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
Other Info
SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
I really don't know, but to have common problems in several related programs seems to indicate a common cause. Only two things come to mind...malware (virus, trojan, etc.) or firewall. I would check in that order. Run multiple malware checks with Malwarebyte, SpyBot, etc., then see what happens using a different firewall. Perhaps before doing these, you should try doing a System Restore to just prior to installing the chipset drivers.

Thank you for your sage advice.

To the Original poster here is the link to seekermeister suggestion.
Malwarebytes.org
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
I've run full and quick scans with MBAM and Kaspersky. I also have Spybot running in the background. Everything comes up clean. I will see what happens when I shut down Kaspersky, which I am using as my firewall.

Is it possible that I have a problem because I have Avira Antivir and Kaspersky both running?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom 9550
Motherboard
Pegatron
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon R4650 M1DG
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer h233h
Hard Drives
WD Caviar SE 640 GB
PSU
Corsair 400W
Case
HP
If you mean that you have Kaspersky AV, as well as Avira AV both running, that is a possibility. I don't know exactly what the issues might be, but I know that it is not a good idea to run multiple AVs.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
CPU
Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
Cooling
3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
Other Info
SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
You should not have 2 anti virus at the same time. That creates problems.

Sorry seeker, but guess you type faster than me.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
I read through the link posted above, and it appears that Nvidia's Network Access Manager could be the culprit. I installed that when I updated my chipset drivers. The thing is that I deleted it with Revo Uninstaller some time ago when the problem first appeared. Is it possible that the program did not get deleted entirely or that it is causing additional issues? Is the only way to get past that to do a System Restore?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom 9550
Motherboard
Pegatron
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon R4650 M1DG
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer h233h
Hard Drives
WD Caviar SE 640 GB
PSU
Corsair 400W
Case
HP
Revo is pretty good, I think that it is mostly gone. You may want to type the name in search and see if anything come up.

If the restore point that would be used is not too old, about a week or so, you could use that to be sure.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
Revo is pretty good, I think that it is all gone. You may want to type the name in search and see if anything come up.

If the restore point that would be used is not too old, about a week or so, you could use that to be sure.


That's the problem, the restore point is probably a month or so old. I am hoping to avoid that, but if that is what it takes, so be it. I will search for nvLsp.dll when I get home, since that was the issue identified in the other situation, which seems similar to mine.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom 9550
Motherboard
Pegatron
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon R4650 M1DG
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer h233h
Hard Drives
WD Caviar SE 640 GB
PSU
Corsair 400W
Case
HP
A System Restore can reverse some problems caused by drivers/programs, that uninstalling them doesn't. No uninstaller catches 100% of everything that a software package may touch, particularly in the registry.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
CPU
Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
Cooling
3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
Other Info
SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
If it proves out that the chipset drivers caused this problem, before reinstalling them, I would use some kind of proactive precaution, such as using Try & Decide...if you have True Image 2010. There may be similar programs available, but I'm not sure.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
CPU
Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
Cooling
3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
Other Info
SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
A System Restore can reverse some problems caused by drivers/programs, that uninstalling them doesn't. No uninstaller catches 100% of everything that a software package may touch, particularly in the registry.

Thanks. Then I guess I will see about doing a System Restore. Hopefully, I can remember what else I changed. The main thing was a hotfix that won't get caught by Windows Updates. Any other software upgrades can be caught on the fly or with File Hippo Update Checker.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom 9550
Motherboard
Pegatron
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon R4650 M1DG
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer h233h
Hard Drives
WD Caviar SE 640 GB
PSU
Corsair 400W
Case
HP
I think I got things to work. No crashes last night with Firefox, Opera or Chrome. Here is what I did:

-Removed Nvidia drivers using Add/Remove (Revo Uninstaller did not have them listed and CCleaner could not locate them even though they were listed).

-Rebooted

-Let Windows locate Nvidia drivers

-Uninstalled Google Chrome (problems were continuing even after Nvidia drivers were reinstalled)

-Rebooted

-Reinstalled Google Chrome

Chrome is working fine now, I was even able to use Hulu to watch a TV show, which I thought was a decent test of its capacity.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom 9550
Motherboard
Pegatron
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon R4650 M1DG
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer h233h
Hard Drives
WD Caviar SE 640 GB
PSU
Corsair 400W
Case
HP
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