BSOD While idle or gaming

[EatYaVeggies]

UPDATE: got a new motherboard, and, RAM but the BSODs continue. Would really appreciate some help. They happen at very predictable times and are always the same two errors
Driver_IRQL_not_less_or_equal and Kmode_Exception_not_handled.

Almost all the information on the first page of this thread is no longer applicable as much of the hardware is different. I'm wondering if I should make a new thread for this, but the rules seem to state that I should keep using this one.

Please see page 2 for any and all current information on my attempts to fix this problem and find out whats wrong.

CURRENT System specs
OEM Windows 7 Home 64bit
Nvidia GeForce GTX460
8 Gigs G-Skill DDR3 1333
Asus M5A88-m micro Mobo

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Any suggestions or help would be very appreciated.

 

[writhziden]

Was already responding to the post before you posted that. Please do not double post unless you have more information to help us with debugging.

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/8-forum-rules-info-please-read.html


Problematic Software:

Start Menu\Programs\DriverUpdate	Public:Start Menu\Programs\DriverUpdate	Public
Start Menu\Programs\Spybot - Search & Destroy	Public:Start Menu\Programs\Spybot - Search & Destroy	Public

• We do not recommend automated driver update software. It often finds drivers for devices similar to but not exactly the same as the hardware actually on the system. This can lead to conflicts and blue screen crashes. If you need help finding driver updates for a certain device, please start a thread in Drivers - Windows 7 Forums instead of using software. Driver updates are not always necessary and some updates can actually decrease system stability rather than increase it, so it is usually better not to update unless a device or its driver is causing problems with the system. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  
  
• Spybot Search and Destroy is not the best malware/spyware utility. Take a look at http://www.sevenforums.com/system-s...-system-security-combination.html#post1732627 for better options.

Your crashes had many different BugCheck codes. That generally means you have hardware issues. Run some hardware checks.

• If you are overclocking any hardware, please stop.
  
  
• If you have an SSD, make sure the following are up to date:
  • SSD firmware
  • BIOS Version
  • Chipset Drivers
  • Hard disk controller drivers/SATA drivers
  • If you have a Marvell IDE ATA/ATAPI device, make sure the drivers are up to date from the Intel site or Marvell site and not from your motherboard/vendor support site.
  
  
• Run all but the advanced tests with SeaTools for HDDs.
  SeaTools for Windows
  
  SeaTools for DOS​
  
  
• Monitor temperatures during the following tests.
  
  Use the following programs to monitor the temperatures.​
  • Real Temp is a good CPU temperature monitor.
  • Speccy - System Information - Free Download will monitor all hardware temperatures.
  • HWiNFO, HWiNFO32 & HWiNFO64 - Hardware Information and Analysis Tools can be inaccurate for CPU temperatures, but is a good program for GPU temperature monitoring.
  • Use FurMark: VGA Stress Test, Graphics Card and GPU Stability Test, Burn-in Test, OpenGL Benchmark and GPU Temperature | oZone3D.Net to test the graphics card GPU. Let it run until the GPU temperatures even out or until the GPU temperatures reach a dangerous level (you can find the max temperature for your card on either the nVidia or AMD sites; if you are not sure, ask us). The goal is to get a steady temperature, find out if the GPU is overheating, or to see if there are any artifacts present in the test itself: look for strange pixelated patterns on the screen or colors that do not look like they belong. Then use the |MG| Video Memory Stress Test 1.7.116 Download to test your graphics card memory. Let the memory test run for at least seven passes; the more the better.
    
    
  • Run http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100352-hardware-stress-test-prime95.html to determine any hardware problems. Run all three tests for a few hours each. If you get errors, stop the test and post back here.
    
    
  • Follow the steps for doing CPU stress test using IntelBurnTest
  
  
• Run the boot version of Memtest86+ paying close attention to Parts 2 and 3 of the tutorial. Also, in case Memtest86+ misses anything and comes up with no errors, run the extended version of the Windows Memory Diagnostics Tool for at least five passes. These you may want to run overnight since they take a long time to complete (run them an hour before bed each of the next two nights and check before going to sleep that they are still running).
  
  
     Warning

  Before you proceed with the following, answer these two questions: Are you still under warranty? Does your warranty allow you to open up the machine to check hardware? If you are unsure of the answers to these questions, contact your system manufacturer. :warn:WARNING: The steps that follow can void your warranty!!!
  
  
  For Part 3: If You Have Errors: If you swap any memory components, follow these steps for ESD safety:
  1. Shut down and turn off your computer.
  2. Unplug all power supplies to the computer (AC Power then battery for laptops, AC power for desktops)
  3. Hold down the power button for 30 seconds to close the circuit and ensure all power drains from components.
  4. Make sure you are grounded by using proper grounding techniques, i.e. work on an anti-static workbench, anti-static desk, or an anti-static pad. Hold something metallic while touching it to the anti-static surface, or use an anti-static wristband to attach to the anti-static material while working. If you do not have an anti-static workbench, desk, or pad, you can use your computer tower/case by finding a metal hold in it, such as a drive bay.
  Once these steps have been followed, it is safe to remove and replace components within your computer.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Sorry about double post. I've been swept under the carpet at other help forums before and was paranoid. SeaTools came back clean. My question is that I use SpeedFan to monitor temps. Is this inaccurate and should I be running different temperature monitoring programs for the different tests? Could you recommend another CPU temp monitor as RealTemp doesn't seem to support my CPU?

 

[writhziden]

SppedFan should be reliable. I try not to recommend it because it is designed more for advanced users and an average user may change a fan setting that could cause the system to overheat. If you are comfortable with it, then go right ahead and use it for your monitoring.


As to sweeping users under the carpet: We try not to let people go missed on SevenForums; it happens occasionally since we are volunteers and cannot check every thread, but we do our best.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

OK, I ran Furmark and my card evened out at 68 degrees with no problems. Ran Prime95 and my processor was running a little too hot so now I'm slightly underclocknig it until i can get a better CPU cooler. Anyway, ran all three tests for 4 hour each, no problems. Ran Intel burn test on Standerd through Very High, no problems. Ran Memtest for 5 passes, no problems and then ran Windows Memory Diagnostic Tools extended for 5 passes, no problems.

In short, I ran all tests suggested and none detected any problems. The reason I dont suspect the CPU cooling problem was I have never seen my CPU get near that hot.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html

 

[writhziden]

Alright, let's check hardware compatibility:

• Download and install CPU-Z and Upload screenshots of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory, and SPD tabs. In the SPD tab, upload an image of each slot.
  
  Also, go into your BIOS and post all Voltages (CPU, RAM, NB, IMC, etc.) and all RAM settings (timings, frequency, etc.)
  
  Thanks to Dave76 for help learning RAM Stability

 

[EatYaVeggies]

CPU-1.496v
RAM-auto-1.500v, min.-.978v, max-2.485v
NB-auto-1.097v, min.-.884v, max-1.393v

RAM timing 2T
Frequency-1333

I don't have a lot of experience in bios so I wasn't able to find some of things you asked for.

 

[writhziden]

Your two RAM modules are made by two different companies. I would recommend removing one or the other and testing whether the computer is stable.

Test the memory slots as follows.

1. Shut down and turn off your computer.
2. Unplug all power sources to the tower (unplug the power from the outlet/surge protector or PSU).
3. Hold down the power button for 30 seconds (for your safety and the safety of the components) to close the circuit and drain all power from components.
4. Remove the casing.
5. Remove all but one memory module making sure you are grounded while doing so.
6. Replace the casing and put the remaining memory modules in a safe, static free environment.
7. If the problem persists, repeat steps 1-4 and move the memory module to another slot (while staying grounded, of course).

Do this until all slots have been tested. If all slots fail, the memory module may be bad. Test with one of the remaining modules. Continue one module at a time in one slot at a time until you find a good module and good slot. Test remaining modules in the good slot, test good modules in other slots to find bad slots, etc.


Test by doing your normal routine in Windows for twice as long as it takes to get a crash or until you get a crash, whichever comes first. You can also test by doing the tasks that generally cause crashes.


Also, the RAM in slot 3 does not appear to be compatible with your processor. System Building and Compatibility

http://support.amd.com/us/Documents/PhenomII Unbuffered DDR3 DIMM.pdf

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Problems have been persisting so I got a new HDD and motherboard and installed windows. I thought everything was fine, then I copied a screensaver from XP into system32 and I got a blue screen, and then I got one 20 minutes later while watching a Youtube video

I didn't whether to start a new thread or not since most of the hardware is the same.
Attached the new BSOD info, and thanks for taking the time to help.
-updated with two more, added them because they were similar to one another and seemed different from the previous ones.
- forgot to add that the new mobo is an ASUS M5A88-M

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Update-After some updates to windows and some drivers to my motherboard, the blue-screens now only seem to occur while attempting to run games or watch you-tube videos.
These are the updated dump files, they have gone from 4 to around 13 now.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

They are once again happening while idle as well. Seemed to start after windows updated, but that might be a coincidence. The 3 BSOD seem to only be DRIVER_IRQL_LESS_OR_EQUAL, PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA, and KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED. I'm hesitant to try anything because I really do not know what the problem is. This is a fresh install of windows 7 on a new HDD.

-I'm at my wits end here and I don't think the guy who was taking the time to help me is here anymore

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Ran memtest and found errors, but it froze corrupted my bios. Repaired my bios and switched out the RAM for the one I was told was not compatible with my CPU. Its working for now, but I'm going to order replacements soon.

As always, here's my updated mini-dumps and system info. I haven't posted for a few days because i was having some trouble repairing my bios.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Since then the system seems more stable, but when ever I attempt to play a game, after a short amount of time (anywhere from 1-20 min) the game either freezes, crashes to desktop, or, most frequently, bluescreen.

It still is probably the RAM, but, while I wait for replacements to arrive, I was wondering if any one could give me some more insight on other possible problems and solutions. Heres the latest minidumps and system info.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Ran Prime95 again and immediately crashed on the blend test. I ran it twice and bluescreened both times instantly. Then ran the FTT test and that ran for 30-40 minutes and then crashed. It crashed when I had left the room for a second so I did not see it happen.

I'm guessing that instantly failing the blend means the RAM is bad, but what other diagnosis can i get from the results?

Should add that I was running Speedfan to monitor temps and the core and CPU temps never got too hot.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

It seems I was completely wrong or I am very unlucky with RAM. I installed the new RAM and I still get immediate BSOD's with running the prime95 Blend test. I have not tested them with memtest yet. Probably going to do that tonight just to be sure. I'm a little hesitant since the last time I used it, my bios got corrupted.

I'm begging to think my CPU was slightly damaged from all the time it had its sub-par cooling unit, but would really like advice from someone much more knowledgeable than me before I spend the money to replace it.

Heres the latest System info. If you look at it, you'll see that all the latest bluescreens are KMODE or DRIVER IRQL.

Forgot to add that I ran Seatools for my new HDD and passed all tests.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Ran memtest for over ten hours for 5 passes and no errors. Probably going to run it again tonight. Is running it twice for 5 runs equal to running it one time for 10?

Anyway, going to start putting the most current dump files on the first post as well as the latest.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Still have no idea how to fix this. Uninstalled and reinstalled my video drivers, but couldn't completely get rid of the first install since driver sweeper no longer seems to be available. Don't even know why I'm posting here anymore.

 

[EatYaVeggies]

Tried getting an older version of my video drivers, but I'm still getting crashes