Build 7022 installation

[Romulinx2]

Agreed. Remember that these builds are not available through the official Microsoft channel and that those of you who choose to download and install these builds do so entirely at your own risk. Should Microsoft decide to release one of these builds through the official channels, then that would be a different matter entirely.

I'm not downloading it. I will be using the RC version soon.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I'm not downloading it. I will be using the RC version soon.

Hello Romulinx2.


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Later :shock: Ted

 

[Studulike]

Im not saying that 7000 is bad, only that this is an improvement, sorry but unless they make a mistake its not going to be worse or "sketchy".

And as for the leaks, i had build 7000 ageeeees before it was officially released, and guess what... SAME MD5, same file..

I personally don't think this version will be officially released, and if your happy with a month old build until RC then that is up to you

It clearly fixes some annoying bugs mainly the UAC gadget bug for me and is not about just "new paint" or "blue panel".

I have to agree, I finally got 7022 to install as an upgrade, Think my problem was something to do with either Norton 360 even though it was turned off and also possibly installing upgrade from DVD. When I dumped files to HDD and installed from there all went fine.
This version does seem a little better and even more stable.
At the end of the day the idea behind getting into beta versions of software is to 1/ get a version before everyone else, 2/ to learn something new, and 3/ to help the software developer release reliable software. So therefor surely the best way to go is install as many versions as possible onto said hardware. I am happy to try any version available, although I wouldn't go to all the trouble of re-installing for the sake of say 1 or 2 builds but 10+ builds and I would say you can only benefit.
When I beta tested Vista I think I must have installed dozens of versions and I don't regret any install really.
I think M$ should release more versions to testers to be honest. I don't think one beta and then one RC is enough to really get good feedback from users. Also makes us feel a little robbed.
I personally think Windows 7 is the best opperating system yet and that also includes OSX. I don't think there is an op. I have not tried and I really love this op.

Come on people stop worrying and install 7022 you will be fine.

 

[lappydog]

I think M$ should release more versions to testers to be honest.

They are but not to the public. I am sure thats what you meant but I had to say it.

 

[Digger]

I have to say, not really turned on to it either.... this is only beta update up from the official. Like earlier stated, downloading all updates/patches for 7000 install fixes mp3 issue off the top. I have only had minimal gadget "crashing", if you want to call it that, during shutdown, which i narrowed down the problem (same problem with norton360 gadget not closing). I have UAC enabled at high and dont have any problems what so ever.

Atleast with this build, feedback coming into MS will hopefully help and fix things. As if ppl even send feedback, coming from a 7022 build will of course raise eyebrows not too mention.

Lastly, paint and ie blue panel? I'm sure there are other things as well, but arent they "new"ish? so, probly buggish as well chances r? maybe this is why it was a wrapped beta and not released publicly (sarcasm). Unless big changes occur as to where things are at/located, or somekind of compatibility improvement, i dont see the use... I would suspect that MS will update fixes for the 7000 beta that are included with later betas. As why would they not want to test "new"ish things more broadly if they are to be included in a RC1 or a RTM for that matter.

As with whistler, not much changed from after the first 6 or so months of betas, and RC1 was just a dustup of the last few betas leading upto RTM. which i think had nothing visable unless running some newish hardware or involving drivers. with most fixes being off the wall drivers, a few printer problems, and some software companies not up to snuff with the OS. Basically the same type of scenario again here with win7 as far as i can see. I probably wasted half a spindle of cdrs with all the pre-beta, beta, rc1 ect.

I know longhorn had many stages thru the betas and so on, but come on now, that was a trainwreck of progress there... and we all know the rest of that story... I believe win7 is the rest of the story. what MS had in mind when creating Vista/longhorn, but of course got into the $$ hungry rush to release an eye-candy OS for 64bit.

From my experience, once a beta is "working", no need to upgrade unless it fixes an issue, usually hardware, that you have. Until then it will be *****ed and prodded, tweaked and geeked, but fundamentally the OS will not change itself from now ... being that its dubbed a public release and then a candidate

...just another long humble opinion

 

[skunksmash]

I have to say, not really turned on to it either.... this is only beta update up from the official. Like earlier stated, downloading all updates/patches for 7000 install fixes mp3 issue off the top. I have only had minimal gadget "crashing", if you want to call it that, during shutdown, which i narrowed down the problem (same problem with norton360 gadget not closing). I have UAC enabled at high and dont have any problems what so ever.

Atleast with this build, feedback coming into MS will hopefully help and fix things. As if ppl even send feedback, coming from a 7022 build will of course raise eyebrows not too mention.

Lastly, paint and ie blue panel? I'm sure there are other things as well, but arent they "new"ish? so, probly buggish as well chances r? maybe this is why it was a wrapped beta and not released publicly (sarcasm). Unless big changes occur as to where things are at/located, or somekind of compatibility improvement, i dont see the use... I would suspect that MS will update fixes for the 7000 beta that are included with later betas. As why would they not want to test "new"ish things more broadly if they are to be included in a RC1 or a RTM for that matter.

As with whistler, not much changed from after the first 6 or so months of betas, and RC1 was just a dustup of the last few betas leading upto RTM. which i think had nothing visable unless running some newish hardware or involving drivers. with most fixes being off the wall drivers, a few printer problems, and some software companies not up to snuff with the OS. Basically the same type of scenario again here with win7 as far as i can see. I probably wasted half a spindle of cdrs with all the pre-beta, beta, rc1 ect.

I know longhorn had many stages thru the betas and so on, but come on now, that was a trainwreck of progress there... and we all know the rest of that story... I believe win7 is the rest of the story. what MS had in mind when creating Vista/longhorn, but of course got into the $$ hungry rush to release an eye-candy OS for 64bit.

From my experience, once a beta is "working", no need to upgrade unless it fixes an issue, usually hardware, that you have. Until then it will be *****ed and prodded, tweaked and geeked, but fundamentally the OS will not change itself from now ... being that its dubbed a public release and then a candidate

...just another long humble opinion

& what an opinion it was..... ...great post.


personally, my W7000 is running like a charm.... i wont be touching it for anything less than a major upgrade..






SK

 

[sandman]

I also agree with the 7000 version is very stable my only problem is WMC playing Live TV has a sound/ video stuttering problem, and if i play with it for a while I probably will get it fixed, but I will be looking forward to the final release so as to get a version of it either free or buying from a supply house. For now it use send feedback and help make something that has a good base a better operating system for the consumer.

 

[jboggs]

I'll prolly be keeping 7000 on my main machine, but install 7022 on my "test" machine. 7000 is pretty stable, and I'm quite happy with it. As a linux enthusiast, that's saying something. I may actually pay money for this operating system when it hits the shelves. 7022 does run the risk of having more bugs even though it's worked others out. As we know with source code, any time you change something, something else changes. I'll try it, but I won't rely on it for my main machine because it is a leak, and runs the risk of being questionable.

 

[win7]

Im still shocked that many people still think this later build will be or is more buggy... sorry but im sure 99~% of the people saying this are the ones who have not downloaded or installed it...

Its better than 7000, fixes issues that i personally had with things like uac, and more besides, it has over a months worth of tweaks and some newer program versions.

Anyone who has 7000 and 7022 would be a fool to install 7000 over 7022, again im sure anyone using 7022 would not now go back to 7000.

As for the feedback thing, who cares if it raises eyebrowse, i can hardly see gates kicking my door off for downloading a leaked build and i may be wrong but im sure they will take the feedback just the same as if it was from 7000...

For people that like beta testing you all seem very scared, and lazy to install...??

 

[Dwarf]

I think that you might have got hold of the wrong end of the stick. We are enjoying testing the official W7 Beta release (build 7000), but we are sceptical of the download sources of these other builds, particularly since many of these sources are torrents, some of which are based in Russia and China. Should Microsoft choose to release one of these builds through the official channels, then I'm sure that people will consider it.

 

[Romulinx2]

& what an opinion it was..... ...great post.


personally, my W7000 is running like a charm.... i wont be touching it for anything less than a major upgrade..






SK

I second that quote about the quote.....LOL

 

[win7]

I think that you might have got hold of the wrong end of the stick. We are enjoying testing the official W7 Beta release (build 7000), but we are sceptical of the download sources of these other builds, particularly since many of these sources are torrents, some of which are based in Russia and China. Should Microsoft choose to release one of these builds through the official channels, then I'm sure that people will consider it.

Ah right, well i trust my sources... maybe that is the difference.

I didn't just randomly download torrents or whatever, i searched the file with the same group of people i searched 6801 through to 7000 with and we all checked it out...

As i say you all seem scared, even if you did somehow end up with a bad copy that won't install or whatever who cares?? You all surely have build 7000 dvd, xp/vista/win2k discs as backup..

Im personally dual booting on pc and using 7022 as main os on laptop..

The build is offical as far as its been ms employees working on it, its not a build made by anyone else, it just hasn't been pulicly released.

Anyway i am bord of trying to explain why a build that is over four weeks newer than 7000 is better, its obvious...

Would you use xp sp2 when sp3 is out?? From the posts in these threads i am guessing YES *giggles*

I am also curious were any of you using the earlier leaked builds such as 6801, 6956 etc?? What is the difference now.. if you did not then i understand but it seems to me i am more enthusiastic about such things than many people here.

 

[ittech]

threw the new build on one of our two test laptops with mixed results....lap is toshiba satellite a200. installation straight forward, all drivers loaded with exception of turbo memory which did not function in build 7000 and will not use anyway so non issue.

virtual clone drive will not install properly under any level. windows messenger installs but faults out. system is generally responsive, cannot say if the speed is increased as per other reports, nothing visible without further testing from build 7000,

biggest issue for me then is system startup and shutdown. startup is significantly longer than with build 7000 both to desktop and to usable desktop. even worse is the shutdown routine. with wireless disabled prior to shutdown, the vista present issues of very long shutdown has reappeared. vista shutdown, all typical services running, no network diagnostics or engineering softwares requireing real time connectivity running at shutdown, toshiba flashcards running took approximately 4 minutes. windows 7 build same condition shutdown time 17 seconds. with the new build 7022 shutdown time is back to approximately 2 minutes 35 to 2 minutes 53 maximum trial (varies) condition identical to above, not good for a functional laptop, i'd probably go back to the hp pocket pc if i had to carry this around again which was what i used mostly with original vista install. syncing devices later.

the restart option did nothing, no indication that the system intended to respond at all (similar to respondse under vista) , full shut down as indicated performed as designed.

feedback reporting on this for me did not work either

for me, this one won't fly. back to build 7000 for the toshiba until another build or the release candidate down the road.

 

[win7]

How strange, the feedback works fine on both my machines, and there is no way my boot time is anywhere near 1 minute let alone over 2???

Did virtual clone drive work in 7000? I know deamon tools has been giving problems, i personally been using ultraISO to create virtual drives in 7.

Still i maintain the build 7022>7000 i have non of your above mentioned issues and have been running three days now.. on two machines.

EDIT: oh also restart is working fine here, again on two totally seperate machines.??

Just out of interest is this the same .iso your using??:

CRC32: 9515BF4C
MD5: FE2FA5C146D7A727075E86D70C8DB67B
SHA-1: B7AF9B94A1EE42D31E8EF1C2773BFB4EE91F4EA1

 

[djhallucn8]

2 days here, no issues to report as of yet but I will let you guys know as soon as I do.

 

[ittech]

@win7

virtual clone drive installed and ran perfectly under the 7000 build. in fact softwares ran so well that i've been using win7 for everything except financial softwares, even media center ran a charm, a hundred percent better than on vista. my other lap unfortunately is identical to this one with network design software differences only so no point trying on the other unit. i will throw this into a desktop at home tonight to see how it reacts to either an asus or abit based unit. all round not happy, don't see much point to having a disk install perfectly then spending an hour to bring up specific add on stuff one at a time. i hope that this leaked build is not indicative of the the progress towards a retail release, if nothing else win7 promised to look very good on older (these are 16 months or so old now) laps. i've been pretty optomistic to date, but this is cause for concern, but then it's a leaked build and not intended for general use.

 

[win7]

@win7

virtual clone drive installed and ran perfectly under the 7000 build. in fact softwares ran so well that i've been using win7 for everything except financial softwares, even media center ran a charm, a hundred percent better than on vista. my other lap unfortunately is identical to this one with network design software differences only so no point trying on the other unit. i will throw this into a desktop at home tonight to see how it reacts to either an asus or abit based unit. all round not happy, don't see much point to having a disk install perfectly then spending an hour to bring up specific add on stuff one at a time. i hope that this leaked build is not indicative of the the progress towards a retail release, if nothing else win7 promised to look very good on older (these are 16 months or so old now) laps. i've been pretty optomistic to date, but this is cause for concern, but then it's a leaked build and not intended for general use.

I find it strange though, nobody else is saying about these issues and to me and everyone else who i spoke to we are all happy and its clear it is an improvement, until there are more people claiming issues i will trust my own machine/outlook.

Does your file give the hashs i posted above? We could be using totally different .iso's... it sounds like it from the issues your facing ;-/

 

[ittech]

yes to that, the sha1 hash sum checks identical

the only thing i can think is that i did not do a clean install this time, will give that a shot later using a clean drive.

******update*******
blew the partition away, formatted and performed a clean install of build 7022 (i would never normally perform anything else usually), virtual clone drive, windows live messenger, and feedback now all installed and functioning normally...go figure.

 

[Hmil3]

Upgrade not successful

i tried to upgrade build 7000 with build 7022. I got to the last step, 57% completed, then got the BSOD. When I rebooted, it rolled back to the 7000 install. It's pretty time-consuming doing complete installs, then installing my other programs, some of which have only a certain number of activations available. I'll probably just stick with this for a while. Anyone have success upgrading this way?

 

[Studulike]

i tried to upgrade build 7000 with build 7022. I got to the last step, 57% completed, then got the BSOD. When I rebooted, it rolled back to the 7000 install. It's pretty time-consuming doing complete installs, then installing my other programs, some of which have only a certain number of activations available. I'll probably just stick with this for a while. Anyone have success upgrading this way?

Ok this seems to be a problem everyone getting. What I found my end as a problem was that first if you use a graphics card and you also have onboard graphics just for the install remove graphics card and use onboard. Second if you have onboard HD Audio then turn it off in the bios before installing. This point id for upgrading only I think.
One more not..... Norton antivirus, any kind even the new 360 beta 3 version does not work under 7022 and will cause a crash of system during install. Norton are no longer supporting this beta under Windows 7 Beta although they will give some help if installed under 7000 build of windows.

Hope this helps