Building a new computer in the future

[Razor505]

Hi, I am going to build a new computer in the future and I was wondering if any of these parts compatible, or if they are reliable, and this is for gaming. Also I need help with buying the CPU, because I don't know which is better for a Intel processor.
Build List-
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Newegg.ca - Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

 

[kbrady1979]

How far in the future is this going to happen? I ask because Intel's Haswell platform should be out in a few months, and it may be the way to go.

As far as the other components go: the CoolerMaster case is a good one I believe....lots of airflow and lots of room. May be a little overkill though.

Corsair Vengeance RAM is what I use and have never had a bad stick from them.

As for the SSD, many here have the M4 and say it is a really good drive......you may want to look at the prices of the premium drives as they are coming down some. Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector, Plextor M5 Pro, and Corsair Neutron GTX are all great drives that are probably the fastest out there.

The cooler you have listed is an awesome bang-for-the-buck cooler. I have recommended them plenty of times, however, if you plan on doing major overclocking, you may want something with a little more performance.

For the power supply, I usually recommend a full modular Corsair, or SeaSonic. The Corsair AX series is probably as nice as it gets, along with the SeaSonic X Gold series.......both are made by SeaSonic.

Those are just my general recommendations, but the list you have will definitely make a really nice gaming rig! I would definitely wait and see what Intel's Haswell platform has to offer, and it should be out very soon.

 

[Razor505]

I am thinking of building around this year, because my Acer Am3400, is going to break down anytime, since after I upgraded the graphics with a Nvida GTX 650 ti factory overclock, frame rates in game is still around the 70 fps for some games, even though I overclocked it to 1000 mhz core clock with 5400 mhz memory clock. I think its the cpu fault, or the ram.

 

[carwiz]

I agree--Wait until June when the Haswell is due out. Ivy Bridge was just a die shrink of the Sandy Bridge with lack-luster boost in performance of around 3%. Haswell will be a new microarchitecture that is supposed to have a pretty substantial boost in performance. Word on the street has it at around 30% over the Ivy Bridge. This could be the biggest bump in overall performance in years. And it's expected to support Thunderbolt, the 10GB/s IO port. Even if you don't want to ride on the knife edge of technology, there will more than likely be a price adjustment to the Ivy Bridge series.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I agree--Wait until June when the Haswell is due out. Ivy Bridge was just a die shrink of the Sandy Bridge with lack-luster boost in performance of around 3%. Haswell will be a new microarchitecture that is supposed to have a pretty substantial boost in performance. Word on the street has it at around 30% over the Ivy Bridge. This could be the biggest bump in overall performance in years. And it's expected to support Thunderbolt, the 10GB/s IO port. Even if you don't want to ride on the knife edge of technology, there will more than likely be a price adjustment to the Ivy Bridge series.

Ivy Bridge also supports PCIe 3.0 and onboard graphics, which Sandy Bridge doesn't. Some Ivy Bridge boards also support Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt isn't all that practical right now since what peripherals that support it right now are scarce and seriously expensive.

 

[carwiz]

You're right about PCIe 3.0 but Sandy Bridge very much supports onboard graphics. I'm running it at this very moment.

 

[Razor505]

When I searched up which Intel Processor is good for gaming, some people recommended the Sandy Bridge, I don't know if that post was old, or if the Sandy Bridge is the newest processor.

 

[Razor505]

How far in the future is this going to happen? I ask because Intel's Haswell platform should be out in a few months, and it may be the way to go.

As far as the other components go: the CoolerMaster case is a good one I believe....lots of airflow and lots of room. May be a little overkill though.

Corsair Vengeance RAM is what I use and have never had a bad stick from them.

As for the SSD, many here have the M4 and say it is a really good drive......you may want to look at the prices of the premium drives as they are coming down some. Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector, Plextor M5 Pro, and Corsair Neutron GTX are all great drives that are probably the fastest out there.

The cooler you have listed is an awesome bang-for-the-buck cooler. I have recommended them plenty of times, however, if you plan on doing major overclocking, you may want something with a little more performance.

For the power supply, I usually recommend a full modular Corsair, or SeaSonic. The Corsair AX series is probably as nice as it gets, along with the SeaSonic X Gold series.......both are made by SeaSonic.

Those are just my general recommendations, but the list you have will definitely make a really nice gaming rig! I would definitely wait and see what Intel's Haswell platform has to offer, and it should be out very soon.

Also would you be able to give me the links on Newegg for the SSD and power supply?

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

You're right about PCIe 3.0 but Sandy Bridge very much supports onboard graphics. I'm running it at this very moment.

You're correct. I was thinking of the Sandy Bridge-E. That one does not support onboard graphics.

 

[kbrady1979]

Here are the links to Newegg you requested.

SSD:

Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
OCZ Vector 256GB
Plextor M5 Pro 256GB
Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB

Those are all 240/256GB models, but they all offer a 120/128GB solution.

PSU:

Corsair AX750 Gold
SeaSonic X750 Gold

Those are both 750watt models, but they come in 650watt and higher. You'll just have to wait until you have a definite parts list before you can pick a PSU that matches your system.

Also, since you are in Canada, all of these parts are probably available at NCIX as well as Newegg.......so shop around!

 

[Razor505]

Here are the links to Newegg you requested.

SSD:

Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
OCZ Vector 256GB
Plextor M5 Pro 256GB
Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB

Those are all 240/256GB models, but they all offer a 120/128GB solution.

PSU:

Corsair AX750 Gold
SeaSonic X750 Gold

Those are both 750watt models, but they come in 650watt and higher. You'll just have to wait until you have a definite parts list before you can pick a PSU that matches your system.

Also, since you are in Canada, all of these parts are probably available at NCIX as well as Newegg.......so shop around!

Thanks! I did used the psu calculator on Newegg and got around 430Watts, dunno if that is too little.

 

[kbrady1979]

I would wait until the new Intel platform comes out and you get a final parts list together. Fact is, with one GPU, you may only need 400-500 watts........I would still get either the AX650 or X650 Gold. I'd rather have power to spare than not have enough and brick some components.

 

[Razor505]

I also have another question about cpu, Is it true that the higher the Ghz the better, more CPU boost the better, the more cache the better, the more cores, or is it the other way around? Also how do you read Intel and AMD, by like the i7, i5, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, FX, Phenom, Athlon, and other models?

 

[kbrady1979]

That is actually a tricky question. Technically, you want a really high clock rate and a slew of cores, all things being equal.....but things aren't always equal. Intel chips have a platform name, for example, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell, etc, and they all have a socket type they are linked to. Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge are both Socket 1155, Haswell will be Socket 1150 and Intel's Extreme lineup, Sandy Bridge-E/Ivy Bridge-E are both Socket 2011. Intel CPU's are usually identified by socket type and i3/i5/i7. Intel Socket 2011 have six core processors, which theoretically would be the best performance, but the trick is buying a processor that meets your needs. Not everyone needs six cores........some just need a good dual core CPU, or a solid quad core with or w/o hyperthreading.

I am not up-to-date on AMD CPU's to be honest. I know the FX series has several levels of performance, such as quad core, 6-core, and 8 core CPU's. The good thing about AMD is you can get their top of the line CPU, right now the FX-8350, for around $200. Unless you are on a serious budget, there is no reason not to get at least a six core or above CPU.

Hope that answers some questions.

 

[Razor505]

so the newest cpu out right now for Intel is the Ivy bridge, and for AMD it is the FX?

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

so the newest cpu out right now for Intel is the Ivy bridge, and for AMD it is the FX?

The current latest Intel cpu is the Ivy Bridge. However, the even newer Haswell is due out sometime in June. How fast do you need this computer? If not soon, it could be well worth the wait for Haswell and the new MOBOs that will support it.

Someone else will have to reply on the AMDs.

 

[kbrady1979]

The newest AMD chip is the FX "Vishera" line of processors. Like I, and Lady Fitzgerald, said above......wait until May/June and see what Intel's "Haswell" has to offer. Then you can decide if you want to build off of the new platform, or take advantage of deals on Ivy Bridge parts, or even go with a nice AMD build. When you say "future" build, I expect that to mean not in the next week or month....give it a few months until reviewers get some Haswell chips to test out. It's worth the wait to make an informed decision.

 

[Razor505]

Thanks for the help, but now I have another problem, today I turned on my computer and now its not responding on startup, and it keeps restarting. How should I fix this, or is it the end of my computer?

 

[bobkn]

Thanks for the help, but now I have another problem, today I turned on my computer and now its not responding on startup, and it keeps restarting. How should I fix this, or is it the end of my computer?

You have provided nearly no information. Does it restart without any screen display, or after it completes the BIOS messages and tries to start Windows?

 

[Razor505]

It goes through BIOS screen then it says your windows did not startup right, and asks me if I wanted to start safemode, with network, command console, boot at the most recent working windows, and start it normally. Anyone of those I choose, the screen goes black, then the blue screen flashes, and then the computer restarts. But I dont want to redo the computer and lose all my data.