Building your own tower.

[SevSaint]

I would like to overclock the cpu, but never done it before.
I would like to take my one HD over and once i see parts are working buy another HD for the new rig. That will prevent me from buying everything at once. Yes and i plan on getting ram as well. Just gota see what motherboards are out there first and price that..

 

[ignatzatsonic]

If you are going to buy a current socket 1150 Intel processor and you want to overclock, you need these parts:

Motherboard with a Z97 chipset. They probably start around 150 and go up from there. Good brands: Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock.

CPU: Intel CPU with a K at the end of the model number. Such as i5-4670K. These are more expensive than non-K processors.

I wouldn't buy the CPU, motherboard, and RAM until you have all your money in line and are ready to build immediately.

You may be able to save money if you have a Microcenter store near you.

What is the primary purpose of the PC?

 

[SevSaint]

Gaming. With the 7850 gpu i am currently enjoying eso and planetside 2. My eso runs fine on high or ultra around 20fps. I might wana crossfire or upgrade my gpu later..Not sure on crossfire since i have never done that either. Mainly learning experience for all of those but really want to game on anything on ultra for the next few years..

 

[SevSaint]

GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD5H LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

considerring this motherboard. has good reviews.. if i go with this i need to get an I5 intel chip correct?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD5H LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

considerring this motherboard. has good reviews.. if i go with this i need to get an I5 intel chip correct?

Incorrect.

You need to get a socket 1150 Intel CPU.

That might be an i5 or i7.

i7 CPUs are more expensive and offer no advantages particularly useful on a gaming PC. The primary advantage of i7 is "hyper-threading", which is useful for stuff like video rendering. You need i5 unless you have money falling out of your pockets and must have the most expensive stuff regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

I've got a similar Gigabyte board and have no problems, but you can always have bad luck regardless of what you choose.

 

[SevSaint]

does amd make 1150 or do i have to get an intel
and is it possible to get a 3.5 quad to reach 4.0 on over clock

 

[ignatzatsonic]

If you want AMD, you have to change motherboard and CPU; it's an entirely different platform. AMD performed pretty well compared to Intel years ago, but those days are long past. The only reason to go AMD would be brand loyalty or a very small budget and even then it's debatable if AMD is superior.

Socket 1150, 1155, 2011, etc are all strictly Intel terms.

I haven't kept up with over-clocking, but going from 3.5 to 4.0 is less than 15 percent, so I'd guess it's very achievable. I easily overclocked an Intel Core 2 Duo by 30 percent maybe 6 years ago, but don't overclock at all anymore.

If you intend to overclock more than a little bit, you likely will need to buy a separate CPU cooler/heatsink combination to replace the stock Intel unit. Overclocking causes heat, among other complications.

 

[SevSaint]

okay.. but my amd gpu is fine correct?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Yeah, it should be OK. Its not a top of the line card anymore, but it's what you have.

If you did not have a video card and were interested in gaming only, you might split 500 dollars maybe 200 on the CPU and 300 on the video card. But since you are already locked into the video card, you'd probably want to spend as much as your budget will allow on the CPU--maybe a top of the line i5 K model like the 4670k or 4690k.

BUT, BUT---I wouldn't go for the top of the line i5 K model if it prevented me from getting an SSD. The benefits of an SSD are more noticeable day to day than the last bit of CPU power.

 

[bigmck]

I agree with Ignat, that a SSD is almost a must. It is so much faster than a HDD you just won't believe it until you see it. You will be booting in 30 seconds and programs will open in one second. Much faster than a HDD and not that much on the price either.

 

[SevSaint]

okay the mobo says it supports crossfire.. if my gpu can crossfire should i buy another gpu later on.. and try crossfire later on

 

[ignatzatsonic]

okay the mobo says it supports crossfire.. if my gpu can crossfire should i buy another gpu later on.. and try crossfire later on

You could, but.................................

I don't game, but I frequently hear that it's often better to just buy one new high performance card when you can afford it---rather than running two not-so-high performance cards in crossfire mode. A single current high performance card may well hammer 2 of those cards you have now.

That's the least of your worries now. Concentrate instead on your budget, getting your money in one pile, selecting motherboard, RAM, CPU, and SSD. Worry about crossfire and overclocking much later after you've got the thing up and running and have expanded your knowledge and understanding of other topics.

 

[SevSaint]

wow ssd are 400+
thats way to much..

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Uh....you don't need to spend 400 on a large SSD.

Buy a 120 GB SSD for 80. That will hold Windows and most or all of your apps. Mine is only 80 GB.

Windows itself is only about 20 GB.

Use your existing hard drive for everything else.

 

[AddRAM]

My suggestion for a MB and CPU

MSI Z97-Gaming 9 AC LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

MSI Z97-Gaming 7 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

i7 4770k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

i5 4690k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K -
Newegg.com

And memory

G.Skill http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231588

Corsair http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233248

SSD

Samsung http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247

Samsung http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192

Mushkin http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226237

Intel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167174

 

[SevSaint]

Does a CPU come with the heat stink stuff to put on it. Should i buy a wrist band? When attaching the mobo do i need a special screw driver?

can i use my old ram too? just to check on mobo and cpu and get system running

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Does a CPU come with the heat stink stuff to put on it. Should i buy a wrist band? When attaching the mobo do i need a special screw driver?

can i use my old ram too? just to check on mobo and cpu and get system running

Yes, retail boxed Intel CPUs include thermal paste. It's already applied to the cooler and ready to go. You should probably buy a $5 tube of Arctic Silver or similar paste anyway in case you have to later re-attach the cooler. Any time you pull the cooler off, you should clean it thoroughly and apply new paste.

Yes, you should buy a wrist band. I try to use one, but don't always do so. Many people will tell you they have never used one and never had a problem. They only cost 6 bucks or so.

The only tool you're likely to need to build a PC is a Phillips screwdriver. Maybe a flashlight to see in the nooks and crannies. Some of the screws will be thumbscrews that don't require any screwdriver.

If you build a new Intel PC, you'll need DDR3 RAM, 1.5 volt; probably 1600 speed minimum; preferably a matched pair of 2 identical sticks. I have no idea what you now have, but there is software out there that will identify it. I'd guess you'll have to buy new RAM, but that's just a guess. Your motherboard manufacturer's web site will have a list of RAM brands and models that are known to be compatible with your motherboard, but those lists are never complete--certain other RAM will work too.

 

[SevSaint]

CPU: AMD A10-6800K Richland 4.1GHz (4.4GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop Processor - Black Edition AMD Radeon HD 8670D - Newegg.com

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-F2A88XN-WIFI FM2+ / FM2 AMD A88X (Bolton D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX AMD Motherboard - Newegg.com

I want to trim down on price, and i am not to worried about top of the line for my first rig build. Right now i need to make sure i know what im doing and if i tare something up im not out money on it. Will these two things work in my current case.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146178

Is there a way to show my system specs on here to let you know what i currently have?

 

[SevSaint]

NVM on the Mobo its not that great!

 

[ignatzatsonic]

System Specs: what's that stuff listed under "My System Specs" at the lower left of each one of your posts?

What causes you to choose a $150 AMD processor rather than a $150 Intel processor?

I'm trying to understand your thought processes and not having much luck.

You need to get a firm budget.

Then decide Intel or AMD.

Then and only then start to think about motherboards and CPUs.