Cannot access the internet

[jimmandyuk]

Good morning everyone I have just joined with a problem I need help with, I have two computers both running 7 ulitmate 32 bit, Mandy is the gateway which was connected to the internet modem via the ethernet cable mine Jim was connected to Mandy via a crossover cable to a pci ethernet card in Mandy's. Mandy could get the internet but Jim could not see Mandy it said unidentified network I tried to follow suggestions off the internet but no joy, so I thought of a solution myself and bought 10/100m desktop switch. Connected the internet modem to the switch, connected Mandy by network cable to switch via the mobo connection having removed pci ethernet card now not in use, connected Jim to the switch via network cable hoping for the best but alas no. Mandy has the internet no problems, Jim has in network sharing centre a picture of my jim pc a line to a network icon but then a line to the internet icon with a cross on it and nothing I have done or can think to do has got me access to the internet. On Mandy I have got ipv 4 and ipv 6 to get the ipv address automatically tried unticking but all I get is Mandy losing the internet and the other one causes Jim to lose the connection to the network icon which goes to unidentified. I have only tried home network. In one word please help. Thank you Jim

 

[jimmandyuk]

Follow on from first post

I have thought if adding the switch into the system has put people off helping me so I have reverted to the original set up.
Mandy, modem connected to mobo, ethernet pci card back in and crossover cable to Jim mobo.
Mandy network sharing centre reads
Mandy - multiple networks - internet
Network 2 home network-------internet, ready to create,Local area connection
Unidentified network, public network-------------no internet access, local area connection 2
Jim network sharing centre reads
Jim- unidentified network -x- internet
unidentified network, public----------------no internet access, local area connection.
Please help

 

[not so gray matter]

You should be able to bridge your connections without the hassle.

This should help: Create a network bridge

 

[dajogejr]

If you hooked a standard modem into a switch that's your problem.
A standard modem passes along the IP assigned by your provider to your PC. A standard modem does not have DCHP capabilities.
You must connect a router to a modem, and PCs to the router. Most routers will get the IP automatically from a modem, and pass IPs dynamically via DHCP to the PCs connected.

With today's technology and pricing, I can't see one good reason to run a crossover from PC to PC.

 

[chev65]

But using a router would be way to easy....:sarc:

 

[CarlTR6]

If you hooked a standard modem into a switch that's your problem.
A standard modem passes along the IP assigned by your provider to your PC. A standard modem does not have DCHP capabilities.
You must connect a router to a modem, and PCs to the router. Most routers will get the IP automatically from a modem, and pass IPs dynamically via DHCP to the PCs connected.

With today's technology and pricing, I can't see one good reason to run a crossover from PC to PC.

I agree and as a bonus, you have much better security with the router's hardware firewall.

 

[jimmandyuk]

Tried bridge

Thank you Notsograymatter, I followed bridging instructions and achieved the bridge but all that did was lose the internet connection for Mandy and in network and sharing centre all that was visible was the unidentified network showing no internet

 

[chev65]

For the unidentified network problem try going though this.
Windows 7 Unidentified Network, Limited Access, No Internet Connection Problem Resolved


For the ICS problem maybe this tutorial will help. It's hard to say exactly what the problem might be but this same problem has come up many times already.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/49569-internet-sharing-using-cross-over-cable.html?filter

 

[Dinesh]

Hi there, a switch cant multicast but it can broadcast. You need a layer 3 device, that is, a router to get this fixed. Can you ping Mandy's IP address?

 

[jimmandyuk]

ipconfig

Thank you gor guides to solve my question, I have typed ipconfig into search and it comes up and gone in a milli second, I just cannot work out how you must be able to read it, please some one tell me how to keep the details on the screen to be able to read it.

 

[Kari]

Thank you gor guides to solve my question, I have typed ipconfig into search and it comes up and gone in a milli second, I just cannot work out how you must be able to read it, please some one tell me how to keep the details on the screen to be able to read it.

Type cmd to Start Menu's search field, and press Enter. This opens the command prompt window. Type then ipconfig in command prompt window.

Kari

 

[jimmandyuk]

Got on internet

I followed Chev65's instructions and got myself on the internet, many many thanks to Chev65. Both Mandy and Jim can see the other computers icon in network but when I double click on the other computer icon on both mine and Mandys pc a window pops up enter network password, to my knowledge I havent set any up yet either on last os install or when I was trying to get on internet. I googled problem and got a multitude of reasons not sure which one applies to me I wonder if anyone who reads this thread can see the way forward to sharing files and printer for me please. Thank you...............Jim

 

[chev65]

Ok one problem down, on to the next one.

Under Advanced Sharing Settings it may help to turn off password protected sharing. You may need to do this for both the Public file sharing and the Home or Work sharing windows, I'm not even sure which one you are using. You may need to reboot both machines after changing the setting.

Is there an XP machine in this ICS network? If so there is another step to turning off the password prompts.
Goto... Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Local Security Policy > Local Policies > Security Options

Scroll down to... Network Access: Sharing and security model for local accounts

Select... Guest only and not Classic.

You should also make sure that the time/date settings are the same "in sync" on all machines.

 

[jimmandyuk]

All Sorted

All goals achieved, looking back I never thought in such a short space of time I would be sorted out, last night seemed a mountain to climb, this morning got on line and tonight shared files and printer it dont get much better then that. To all the members who helped guide me on my journey a heart felt thank you, with out a doubt times that by ten for Chev65.................Jim

 

[CarlTR6]

Jim, thanks for letting us know. Congratulations on getting it solved.

 

[chev65]

All goals achieved, looking back I never thought in such a short space of time I would be sorted out, last night seemed a mountain to climb, this morning got on line and tonight shared files and printer it dont get much better then that. To all the members who helped guide me on my journey a heart felt thank you, with out a doubt times that by ten for Chev65.................Jim

Nice work following the advice jimmyandyuk, these networks can get confusing at times but usually if you take it one step out a time it works out pretty well.