Solved Cannot connect data HDs after installing SSD and setting SATA to ACHI

Harleydls

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I have set up a new rig with the following components:

Gigabyte Z97X-SLI
Intel Core i5-4690K
Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB Drive

Im running everything pretty vanilla, using onboard video, audio, network, etc.

I originally installed Win 7 with the BIOS SATA mode set for IDE as I have two data drives that I used on my older rig that I wanted to access and the system would not boot with the SATA mode set on ACHI. All worked fine until I reset SATA to ACHI and then I could not boot. I get through the BIOS boot and windows went into its "Launch Startup Repair" routine but then just kept looping back to that screen. Since I wasn't getting anywhere with swapping SATA ports and doing the regedit changes to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services|msachi start=0 and ...Pciiede Start=0 , I decided I would just disconnect the data drives and reinstall windows with the BIOS SATA mode already on ACHI. I was able to get that done with no problem and the system boots fine with just the SSD and my CDDVD drive plugged in. Whenever I add either of the two data drives or both simultaneously, I cannot boot, and windows goes into the "Launch Startup Repair" routine which will not complete and just says that I have added hardware that is not being recognized. I have tried the trick with the regedit entries and no luck.

My two drives are both Western Digitals. One is a WD20 EFRX 2 TB drive recent vintage. The other is an old WD 1600 160 GB drive. When I view the device manager screen, there is a warning shown under Other Devices - PCI Simple Communications Controller. When I try to update the driver for this device, windows cannot find it. Somehow, I think this must be the root of the problem but I don/t know how to fix it.
 

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Does the BIOS recognise the drives? is the WD1600 160gb drive sata ???. If it is the old style Sata 1 it might not work too well and AFAIK, older sata drives will slow your main drive down?
I just built myself a new machine using a GA Z97X Gaming 3 and have had no dramas, maybe I was lucky. BTW, the other two drives, do they have stuff on them? Maybe you need to format them both and then try to add.
I just noticed, why did you change the pciiede setting? It should be 3, not 0
 

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The BIOS sees the drives. I run into trouble when Win 7 starts to boot and it does the "Launch Startup Repair" routine, which it refuses to complete. I have tried removing the partition from the old 160GB drive using Gparted and then, since that made no difference, I formatted it with an NTFS partition. Still no success. The 2BG drive is fairly new and it has data on it that I want to access so formatting it is not an option. FWIW, I ran Gparted from an Ubuntu 14.4 live cd and it booted fine, saw all drives, and I could see the file structure, etc, so I think the drives are fine.

I changed the pciide start key from 3 to 0 as recommended elsewhere on SevenForums. Easy enough to change back as the system boots fine when neither hdd is connected. That's what really has me scratching my head. Why would windows boot fine with just the SSD and CDDVD plugged in and then go nowhere just because I add a hdd? This seemed like such a simple thing on my old system running Win 7 so long as the BIOS picked up on the change. What is it about ACHI that makes this not work? I wonder if I should not just go back to an IDE setting as this just does not seem to be worth the hassle, although I can't say that I want to reinstall Win 7 once again. I don't know enough about ACHI to know if I should be looking to Gigabyte, Samsung, or Intel for help.
 

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Galaxy GeForce GS 256 MB
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On MB
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HP 2159m
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WD Caviar 500GB Serial ATA 7200/16MB/SATA-3G
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Old Gateway
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CPU Fan that came with it + case fan
Common issue with UEFI and old data disc.

The motherboard Gigabyte Z97X-SLI uses GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™.

UEFI, when enabled, formats a disc to GPT partition table during windows installation. GPT + UEFI makes the system unbootable whenever a new disc of MBR partition table added to the system.

Without any other disc connected than the main OS dics, your system should boot perfectly.

Two options you have there to deal with this issue.

First, format all your old data discs to GPT ..... but that will erase the data from the disc. So you may need to back up the data before formatting.

Second, disable UEFI. Boot into your BIOS. Check it throughout. Wherever there is an option of UEFI, set it to "Legacy". Everywhere throughout the BIOS setup. I would suggest you to disable UEFI and perform another clean install, which will format your main disc back to MBR partition table.

Either of these two options will make your system bootable again.
 

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Thanks Arc,

I had some suspicions about this and I played around with the UEFI / Legacy settings last night and got the system to boot with the old 160 GB disk plugged in, but it was freshly formatted to NTFS. The newer one, a 2TB WD disk has my backup data on it so I just reinstalled it in my old machine for now as I don't want to reformat it and was nervous about playing around with it. I'm thinking I'll buy a new 1TB disk for data as I know a new disk will play well with the SATA 3 controller and will be faster. Will be interesting to see if it boots after installing the new disk but at least I have a path to follow now if it doesn't.

Thanks for your helpful information.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7AMD Phenom X4 9500Corsair PC6400 DDR2 800MHz 2x2048MB DHXGalaxy GeForce GS 256 MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
All Mine
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 9500
Motherboard
MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum nForce 750a Socket AM2+
Memory
Corsair PC6400 DDR2 800MHz 2x2048MB DHX
Graphics Card(s)
Galaxy GeForce GS 256 MB
Sound Card
On MB
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2159m
Hard Drives
WD Caviar 500GB Serial ATA 7200/16MB/SATA-3G
PSU
Apevia WIN - 500 XSPX
Case
Old Gateway
Cooling
CPU Fan that came with it + case fan
New discs are always good. :)

I faced this issue myself, after changing the motherboard. I still use the old HDDs, with UEFI off.
 

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Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bitIntel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHzCorsair Vengence 4GB x2 (8.00GB Dual-Channel ...2047MB GeForce GTS 450 (ZOTAC International)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Assembled
OS
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B85M-D3H
Memory
Corsair Vengence 4GB x2 (8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
2047MB GeForce GTS 450 (ZOTAC International)
Sound Card
Onboard (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron E2040T
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 1 TB
Seagate 500 GB
PSU
Corsair VS550
Case
Cooler Master K380
Cooling
Cooler Master Seidon 120V Plus
Keyboard
Logitech MK260r
Mouse
Logitech MK260r
Internet Speed
PMPL Broadband
Antivirus
Windows Defender + MBAM
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Dell Studio 15" Laptop
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