Can't access from Win7 to XP shared folder

eXtremeDevil

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So yesterday I decided to set up and optimize my home network by creating shared folders and stuff. As an IT student I'm learning about security so I started by disabling all the Home Group config and creating users with passwords and enabling password authentication so everytime I want to access a computer/folder I have to enter an user (I have more than one for when I need only read or write to a shared folder).

The only problem I have is when I try to access XP. I have one XP and three Sevens. In one of the Sevens, when I try to enter the XP shared folder it ask me for an user/password, something like this:

http://lpmv.epfl.ch/files/content/sites/lpmv/files/images/authentication.png

Note: I'm using a workgroup, not a domain.

But on the other two Sevens I can't access XP. It says permission denied, or something, but the thing is that they don't ask for credentials.

I guess is NOT a XP problem, but how can I fix this?

Thanks.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83GHz
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(1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (2) ST3500630A ATA Device (3) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
theres an option for turning on lower security in the advanced settings / file sharing options.. you need to lower the encryption.
Hope that helps you.
 

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That's not what I want. I actually want that security. And in one of my Sevens it works just fine.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83GHz
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ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5E3 PRO
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4,00 GB
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(1) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (2) Mirage Driver (3) VNC Mir
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(1) Logitech Mic (Communicate STX) (2) Realtek High Defini
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(1) 1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz (2)
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(1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (2) ST3500630A ATA Device (3) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
Do all the computers have the same firewall and Anti-virus programs? If not, you may need to fix their permissions.
 

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One is not connected
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As far as I know, yes. What's the relation between an AV and the "not asking for credentials" bug?

Nive avatar ;)
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83GHz
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4,00 GB
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(1) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (2) Mirage Driver (3) VNC Mir
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(1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (2) ST3500630A ATA Device (3) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
Look at the computers to see what Anti-virus and firewalls are set up. There may be something different about the Windows 7 that can't access the XP.
 

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INTEL/D975XBX2
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ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
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Samsung SyncMaster 914v
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2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
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Rocketfish 700 W
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G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
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Avira Internet Security
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IE 11
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ATI HDMI Audio
There's nothing different there. Maybe some registry key or a very advanced option, but I don't know about that. It's not like I can't access XP, I can actually see the folders without any authentication (I have to login first in the PC that works fine just to see the folders), the weird part is that Win7 won't ask me for credentials...
 

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OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5E3 PRO
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (2) Mirage Driver (3) VNC Mir
Sound Card
(1) Logitech Mic (Communicate STX) (2) Realtek High Defini
Screen Resolution
(1) 1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz (2)
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (2) ST3500630A ATA Device (3) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
I had this issue before but have long ago ditched XP so I unfortunately cannot replicate it for you. However, I do remember that it was not antivirus/firewall software related. You didn't say but I'm assuming you are trying to do this networking through a router?

Things to check...
1: Ensure all computers are on the same workgroup.
2: Ping your XP computer's IP from the working Windows 7 computer, then try the others to see if they can even talk.
3: Try to connect to your Windows 7 computers from XP, instead of the other way around. This is the step I found that commonly works, never found out why though as I left good enough alone.
4: Go deeper than just workgroup settings. Make sure you're on the same gateway and what not(which you should be by default but just make sure).
5: Check for any anomalies in computer and user names for all computers. Eg: spaces, special characters, dashes.

That's all I can recall from those many years ago. Good luck.
 

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I had this issue before but have long ago ditched XP so I unfortunately cannot replicate it for you. However, I do remember that it was not antivirus/firewall software related. You didn't say but I'm assuming you are trying to do this networking through a router?

Things to check...
1: Ensure all computers are on the same workgroup.
2: Ping your XP computer's IP from the working Windows 7 computer, then try the others to see if they can even talk.
3: Try to connect to your Windows 7 computers from XP, instead of the other way around. This is the step I found that commonly works, never found out why though as I left good enough alone.
4: Go deeper than just workgroup settings. Make sure you're on the same gateway and what not(which you should be by default but just make sure).
5: Check for any anomalies in computer and user names for all computers. Eg: spaces, special characters, dashes.

That's all I can recall from those many years ago. Good luck.


1: Of course...
2: Yep, everyone sees everyone.
3: Absolutely yes.
4: The network config is perfectly fine.
5: None that I can see.

I still investigating but if someone knows anything else... this is not about basic things, it's something deeper.
 

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OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5E3 PRO
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (2) Mirage Driver (3) VNC Mir
Sound Card
(1) Logitech Mic (Communicate STX) (2) Realtek High Defini
Screen Resolution
(1) 1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz (2)
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (2) ST3500630A ATA Device (3) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
Did step 3 work? Another thing to try is share additional folders on both the XP and one of the non-working Windows 7 computers. Eg: instead of just documents share a folder on your desktop or c:\ drive. If this works you may have to check out the sharing settings on the defaulted share folders.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba A505-S6960
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 / 2.1 GHz
Memory
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 398MHz (6-6-6-18)
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard - Intel GMA 4500MHD 128MB
Sound Card
Onboard
Is not that, I already have several folders with different permissions...

Again, is not permission or any other basic config, it's something on Win7 preventing to ask for credentials when trying to go into XP. Although from the "problematic" Sevens I can access the other Sevens just fine, with the credentials window working.

EDIT:

Now I can access if I previously create the account in credentials settings in windows, but this is not a solution since I don't want to use the same user all the time.

EDIT 2:

With the net use command I can put a password on cmd and it works, I can map some folder to Z: for example but from the window explorer there's nothing, I can list shared files from cmd but I can't see them on the explorer no matter what I do.

What's happening here??
 
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My Computer

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5E3 PRO
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (2) Mirage Driver (3) VNC Mir
Sound Card
(1) Logitech Mic (Communicate STX) (2) Realtek High Defini
Screen Resolution
(1) 1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz (2)
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (2) ST3500630A ATA Device (3) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
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